RPGM Completed Dark Hero Party [v1.01] [U-ROOM / Kagura Games]

[NTR unavoidable!]

Only recently have I got into ntr more and especially this kind. What made me interested first is how traumatic 'hero party must fall' felt to me even with roles swapped so I searched for similar games and played some of them.

I think most of my previous fetishes had voyeurism and fear as part of them (mostly rape) so it is no wonder I am drawn into this now. I never 'self inserted' in any game really but I could get into certain characters and try to imagine how it feels to them. Females too as weird as it sounds. The masochism, fear and arousal they go through. Because for me fear was always a central part, power dynamic and rough sex. For example yesterday I played APBLU and Aya part really hit me hard and even made me nauseous.


Today I found this and after reading some of your comments it might be the one that will hit me hardest lol.

 

[rockstarme]

thnx

 

[NTR unavoidable!]

This is probably too specific and it might be a better idea to make a thread but here goes...

Any game with heavy themes like this where you can decide your personality? For example be more apathetic even if you and people close to you get hurt and you are not in control. I like this game because it kinda shows how powerless a living being can be, which is realistic to an extent. But I dislike how mcs in these kind of games are usually too nice/kind/naive or at least start that way.

I didn't play Tyrant yet but that game might be somewhat of what I'm looking for. Any more similar games?

 

[Astr028]

Females too as weird as it sounds.

It's actually pretty common (especially because male characters in these sort of games tend to be very undefined)

 

[Lewyn Collins]

Only recently have I got into ntr more and especially this kind. What made me interested first is how traumatic 'hero party must fall' felt to me even with roles swapped so I searched for similar games and played some of them.

I think most of my previous fetishes had voyeurism and fear as part of them (mostly rape) so it is no wonder I am drawn into this now. I never 'self inserted' in any game really but I could get into certain characters and try to imagine how it feels to them. Females too as weird as it sounds. The masochism, fear and arousal they go through. Because for me fear was always a central part, power dynamic and rough sex. For example yesterday I played APBLU and Aya part really hit me hard and even made me nauseous.


Today I found this and after reading some of your comments it might be the one that will hit me hardest lol.

Ooooh, you have no idea. This game is the peak of unfairness and suffering. I am not THAT into ntr, so I just can't swallow this game (even after several attempts of playing it), but if you are deep in ntr you will probably like this one.

 

[Nexion123]

The MC constantly runs to the top left automatically without me doing anything. Does anyone know what to do and in the game the volume loudness and which keys can I use to adjust that?

 

[Anos Voldigod]

any full save?

 

[Astr028]

The MC constantly runs to the top left automatically without me doing anything. Does anyone know what to do and in the game the volume loudness and which keys can I use to adjust that?

Do you have any controllers plugged in?

 

[sirviper235]

Thoughts on the game. (Potential Spoilers ahead be warned.)

This game is an old one and an...Interesting one for sure. It has an incredibly dark but also oddly engaging and deep story that touches a lot on our modern society and how certain people can thrive in it despite how horrible they are and that in the end there is no true justice in the world for those without power. Overall it's quite a unique game. But..There are a few big problems.

One of which is obvious. If they make a sequel or even prequel (Heck i'd be interested to see Thrash backstory in full detail and if he was once actually not that bad and the world change him) For the love of everything. Tone down and cut down the unwinnable battles. To take from a post from another on this site..

"At some point, you just become apathetic to the misery of the MC. Which is a massive problem, because the whole game's story hinges on you thinking that the MC is going through hell. Personally, I blame the lack of autonomy from your choices and the repeatedly impossible battles you face.

Eventually, you just won't care to even try to win anymore. Despair is built upon hope and after just three episodes you will immediately realize that there's literally no reason to hope that the MC will achieve anything.

He just gets his ass beaten over and over again for no reason through impossible battles. I get it, the point is to drive across that the protagonist is powerless, but that doesn't really make him miserable, just weak and deserving of what's happening to him. If you don't give me something to believe in, I'll just grow apathetic to everything happening to him."

I find this to be 100% correct and a problem with the game. A lof of the combat is utterly pointless and should just be cut scenes and it really needs to not be so utterly, endlessly bleak. After a point the MC goes from a victim and poor soul to a complete loser and total wimp that you don't care about anymore. Because he's TOO weak and TOO big of a failure at everything.

But that is small potato's to the main issue i ran into. Most everything else is solid with some bumps here and there.

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[Chinel]

Thoughts on the game. (Potential Spoilers ahead be warned.)

This game is an old one and an...Interesting one for sure. It has an incredibly dark but also oddly engaging and deep story that touches a lot on our modern society and how certain people can thrive in it despite how horrible they are and that in the end there is no true justice in the world for those without power. Overall it's quite a unique game. But..There are a few big problems.

One of which is obvious. If they make a sequel or even prequel (Heck i'd be interested to see Thrash backstory in full detail and if he was once actually not that bad and the world change him) For the love of everything. Tone down and cut down the unwinnable battles. To take from a post from another on this site..

"At some point, you just become apathetic to the misery of the MC. Which is a massive problem, because the whole game's story hinges on you thinking that the MC is going through hell. Personally, I blame the lack of autonomy from your choices and the repeatedly impossible battles you face.

Eventually, you just won't care to even try to win anymore. Despair is built upon hope and after just three episodes you will immediately realize that there's literally no reason to hope that the MC will achieve anything.

He just gets his ass beaten over and over again for no reason through impossible battles. I get it, the point is to drive across that the protagonist is powerless, but that doesn't really make him miserable, just weak and deserving of what's happening to him. If you don't give me something to believe in, I'll just grow apathetic to everything happening to him."

I find this to be 100% correct and a problem with the game. A lof of the combat is utterly pointless and should just be cut scenes and it really needs to not be so utterly, endlessly bleak. After a point the MC goes from a victim and poor soul to a complete loser and total wimp that you don't care about anymore. Because he's TOO weak and TOO big of a failure at everything.

But that is small potato's to the main issue i ran into. Most everything else is solid with some bumps here and there.

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But the thing is that.
Lotia doesn't really care about Imos. I would also argue she doesn't care about Thrash either.

They are for her what a pet is for a human.

If she was a Viltrumite (good Lord that is a scary thought because she is FUCKING EVIL) she would say 'Imos/Thrash...are like pets to me' and TRULY MEAN IT. I think she is well written because the game would have you believe she was 'pure'.

But she was pure. And remained pure.
It is just that her purity is NOTHING good. There is kindness and purity. The second is not always good. She was a hypocrite, yes, but it makes sense when you notice that she ultimately believes that 'Might Makes Right'.

It is just she is an hypocrite when it comes her time.

As for apathy due to Imos's Misery? That is the point. NTR is that, misery porn.

 

[sirviper235]

But the thing is that.
Lotia doesn't really care about Imos. I would also argue she doesn't care about Thrash either.

They are for her what a pet is for a human.

If she was a Viltrumite (good Lord that is a scary thought because she is FUCKING EVIL) she would say 'Imos/Thrash...are like pets to me' and TRULY MEAN IT. I think she is well written because the game would have you believe she was 'pure'.

But she was pure. And remained pure.
It is just that her purity is NOTHING good. There is kindness and purity. The second is not always good. She was a hypocrite, yes, but it makes sense when you notice that she ultimately believes that 'Might Makes Right'.

It is just she is an hypocrite when it comes her time.

As for apathy due to Imos's Misery? That is the point. NTR is that, misery porn.

Huh...Good point. I am curious.

Could you expand a bit on what you mean/how you interperted her? What makes you think she's so evil and views them as pets? Imquite curious as i never considered that. So i'd love to hear more.

 

[Chinel]

Huh...Good point. I am curious.

Could you expand a bit on what you mean/how you interperted her? What makes you think she's so evil and views them as pets? Imquite curious as i never considered that. So i'd love to hear more.

I will use a quote that is very good about people like her.

Because her example is also equally applied to other heroines (like the ones in Hero Party Must Fall).

"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. They may be more likely to go to Heaven yet at the same time likelier to make a Hell of earth. This very kindness stings with intolerable insult. To be "cured" against one's will and cured of states which we may not regard as disease is to be put on a level of those who have not yet reached the age of reason or those who never will; to be classed with infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals."

This is how I ultimately see Lotia. If you want to make her and any of those NTR FMCs of the same venner, you need to kinda crush them down, and see if they learn that strength, influence and power are transient. Because from there...you can actually respect the weak.

 

[sirviper235]

I will use a quote that is very good about people like her.

Because her example is also equally applied to other heroines (like the ones in Hero Party Must Fall).

"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. They may be more likely to go to Heaven yet at the same time likelier to make a Hell of earth. This very kindness stings with intolerable insult. To be "cured" against one's will and cured of states which we may not regard as disease is to be put on a level of those who have not yet reached the age of reason or those who never will; to be classed with infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals."

This is how I ultimately see Lotia. If you want to make her and any of those NTR FMCs of the same venner, you need to kinda crush them down, and see if they learn that strength, influence and power are transient. Because from there...you can actually respect the weak.

Huh interesting!

Yes. I can see how this fully applies to how she would view the main character/ imos. In a ‘I’m doing this for your own good. How dare you act against me, I did this all for you!’ Kind of way.

But how does it apply to thrash? What makes you think she sees him as a pet and what stuff do you think she did in the story that supports that?

I’ve never really heard a take like this before so you have me interested to hear more if you’re willing to speak

 

[Chinel]

Huh interesting!

Yes. I can see how this fully applies to how she would view the main character/ imos. In a ‘I’m doing this for your own good. How dare you act against me, I did this all for you!’ Kind of way.

But how does it apply to thrash? What makes you think she sees him as a pet and what stuff do you think she did in the story that supports that?

I’ve never really heard a take like this before so you have me interested to hear more if you’re willing to speak

Thrash is what she uses to justify her own 'kindness'. But considering how she listens to a woman stating shit that amounts to 'weak men disgusting' and doesn't truly has a counterargument.
She is like the aristocrat that claims to like the poor but 'keep those dirty little fingers away from me'.
So for Thrash, while she claims to 'dislike', she is less willing to go against him because he embodies all of what she already implicitly believes in. The right of the strongest.

 

[sirviper235]

Thrash is what she uses to justify her own 'kindness'. But considering how she listens to a woman stating shit that amounts to 'weak men disgusting' and doesn't truly has a counterargument.
She is like the aristocrat that claims to like the poor but 'keep those dirty little fingers away from me'.
So for Thrash, while she claims to 'dislike', she is less willing to go against him because he embodies all of what she already implicitly believes in. The right of the strongest.

Honeslty the more you speak the more sense this makes. In retrospect this makes even more sense. If this gets too long i'll spoiler some parts but.

Looking at her from this point of view it changes her more into being a puppet master who plays both Thrash an Imos and doens't really care for eitherbeyond her purpouses for them. And htere is some evidence for that.


When yo look athow Thrash acts, after a point. You can kind of get the feeling he's become attached to Loita and is to a degree responsive to her and listens to her. He's actually somehwat reigned in by her and not as bad as he usually is. he's 'changed' a bit and seems to want to be 'better' for what he and Loita made. SOmething Thrash would normally not care about. And while he still uses demaning words and phrases twords her. Loita he clearly begins to treat noticablyl difffrently and open to her than you'd expect.

You can even arge he's given power in the relationship over to him.

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I hope that isn't too long but i am truly fascinated by your interperation. I'd love to hear what scenes in particualr helped you come to this conculsion and if you could describe them a bit from what her motivatons are. If your ok with that of course.

 

[alma001]

I hear again and again that this game is a real gem, so I would like to play ut but just noticed, that this is using some older RPGM engine.

My question is is it possible anyhow to control this with mouse or it is simply not possible with this engine?

 

[knuthamsun]

I hear again and again that this game is a real gem, so I would like to play ut but just noticed, that this is using some older RPGM engine.

My question is is it possible anyhow to control this with mouse or it is simply not possible with this engine?

Not possible.

 

[HeoEva]

reasonable crashout

 

[sirviper235]

Ok so this is for everyone here to be aware of.

A friend of mine who is a translator and I actually reached out to and asked questions to the creators/developers of Dark hero Party. U-Room/Karuga games. And in the coversations.

They actually revealed the developer intended/the true accurate ideas behind each of the girls of the game and the overall story. And...Well.


If anyone wants to hear let me know. As we as a collective got 2 of the girls wrong. One is clearly more due to perhaps them doing a poor job wriitng it.

The other however due to massive misinterperation and perhaps it not coming across due to how it was written. That greatly changes how we are going/supposued to view her.

As said. IF anyone wishes to know. Let me know and i will post the basic rundown here.

But before that, from the conversations. I an interesting theory came up. That I both found on an old japanese forum from years ago before it was translated to english. That from what they told me I think supports it a bit. here is my theory. I will spoiler it just in case but it's not a legthy one.

Spoiler: Dark hero world theory.

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[Kudoko]

Is there a wiki or a spreadsheet for the characters, like what skill do they learn a what level etc?
Also the sheep can sell you an item to lower the level of a party member ... why would you wanna do that?