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I downloaded this & been playing it for the last few days. Finished it and ran a bit of Chapter#2. I had no problems in downloading or starting it. I'd put it as among the top 5 3D games that I've been able to play in character design & ease of play. I really like that there's no "she's actually adopted or your step-daughter" or other attempts to avoid actual incest. Georgina, daughter, Jennifer and the other girls are darn right gorgious!

Some issues:
- While the women in the game are among the best that I've seen, most of the males, even the walk-ons, are downright creepy. (Graham should have been softened a bit to look like the guy next door-sort. As it is,he looks like he should be on a Police Report.) The presenter of the Cupid Night made me think of the MC in The Restaurant at the End of the Universe. (He would probably be played by Joel Gray in the movie version.)
- Between the daughter's & Georgina's double D/F-cups and Elena & Jennifer's A-cups (if that), there seemed to be an uninhabited desert. Now, I do PREFER larger boobs in my hentai/porno, but gee, how about some mid-range B- or C-cups! Then I saw Olivia and Koko- okay, there are in-between women in this game world.
- The hotel only has ONE condom available and there's no other in the ENTIRE Game? Okay, so they ran out and it's too late to obtain more- I COULD buy that, but hell, the Dad could have gone out and bought a pack at some point later.
- I REALLY did not like the cut-scenes with the brothers and really HATE Lucas. I know that that's the intended point, but there's too many of the cut scenes and they go on for way TOO long. Other than saving the game past that point, you have to watch each and every scene with them EVERY time you play the game. It really rubs me the wrong way- I have a good friend that had a stalker like Lucas (didn't look like him though) and moral scum like that turns my stomach with their evil. I hope that if he appears again, it's a scene in jail with him literally getting his liver cut out. And Richard is hardly any better- he's little more than a damn procuring pimp- and PROUD of it! At least Lucas doesn't hide what HE is. (If they appear in any future versions, it's a game-killer for me- I will NOT be getting any with them.)
- God, Elena is annoying! She thinks of NOTHING but sex and blabs her friends' personal information to virtual strangers. Not exactly someone anyone should trust...
- A minor point- you have a Richard, Rico and Riccardo. Like Jurassic Park (Alan, Ellie and Alex), you have too many similar names. My instructor covered this on the first day of my writing course- it happens in Real Life all of the time, but it's a no-no in writing because it confuses the reader.
- So, it's an alternate world where no one has pubic hair, rather than a just a shaving fashion like our's...(sigh)

Sorry to sound like a complainer- I really did enjoy the first chapter, and look forward to playing the next one.

Good luck with future endeavors!
Holy shit bro are you seriously crying about buying condoms and girls having huge boobs?? smh (n)
 

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I have found on this thread, and throughout life there are those who are mentally Hard wired to be negatively predisposed. Nothing is truly acceptable to them. They must find fault in anyone, or anything in order to elevate their self worth. It seem's to always come at the expense of others, or to denigrate anything of importance, value or worth. We should not be angry with these people as they are incapable of helping themselves. but pity them...
 

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mrdots nice game i really enjoy playing ... does the daughter really have to have such big boobs tho ... not really realistic .... love this game otherwise
To be fair, women come in all sizes. Some think that D’s size are not realistic, when in fact even in the small sample of women you get on porn sites, there are many women who have natural breasts the size of D’s. Expand that to the billions of women in the world and I would argue there are tens of thousands of women with natural breast her size.

The same with adult women with Elena/Jennifer sizes.
 

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I have found on this thread, and throughout life there are those who are mentally Hard wired to be negatively predisposed. Nothing is truly acceptable to them. They must find fault in anyone, or anything in order to elevate their self worth. It seem's to always come at the expense of others, or to denigrate anything of importance, value or worth. We should not be angry with these people as they are incapable of helping themselves. but pity them...
Yes, but, I do agree with 90% of his points - except the breasts - because by chapter 3 I think you do have a wide pallet of breast sizes.

Take Lucas - he is imo the most two dimensional character.

Take the male characters - none of there renders (take this with a grain of salt as I am neither gay nor bi) are sexy enough to be a visual worry that they would steal D. Imo.

The one condom is kind like a “game limit” forcing one to use it with Elena or Olivia.

Yeah,I can see the issue with Elena being annoying, but there are some women (and plenty of men) with a similar attitude.

As to Richard, Ricco, etc., he is correct. My belief this is more of a conscious effort by MDots - like with Lois Lane, Lex Luthor, etc



As to the alternate world of no pubic hair - this script was also written in for fun due to a long discussion by Patreon fans complaining about the lack of pubic hair. I would say we all have modern porn to thank for the bare pubs artistic choice.

But all and all, I understand his points and they have all been discussed before. The ONE I hope we fix - at least in future projects - is the unappealing male. I think it really is MDots likes manipulating the female form way more than the male form - and that might make all the difference.
 
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Holy shit bro are you seriously crying about buying condoms and girls having huge boobs?? smh (n)
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Did you actually READ my post?

"- Between the daughter's & Georgina's double D/F-cups and Elena & Jennifer's A-cups (if that), there seemed to be an uninhabited desert. Now, I do PREFER larger boobs in my hentai/porno, but gee, how about some mid-range B- or C-cups! Then I saw Olivia and Koko- okay, there are in-between women in this game world. "

My issue was that didn't seem to be any middle ground between the A-cups and the F-cups, while in our Real World, the vast majority of women are in that B/C- cup range (ignoring cosmetic surgery, of course). If I had MY druthers, I'm be fine with D-cups being SMALL in these games- but when the other two females of sexual potential are at the opposite extreme, it seemed perhaps as if it was pandering to the fetishists. The appearance of Olivia and Koko ELIMINATED my concerns on this point.

"- The hotel only has ONE condom available and there's no other in the ENTIRE Game?..."

THAT was my point- the condom is a plot point and there's only one available in a venue that should have had a box or bowl full of them and he (the Concierge?) says that they make them available for their guests. Yes, it's a regular occurence in video games- there's only one bullet in the ENTIRE town for the gun (and you need TWO to win the game!). But dammit, kindly explain why there's only ONE condom in your game UNIVERSE or don't bring it up. There's a deliberate break in the action near the end where Elena and Jennifer actually talk about that people don't have pubic hair in their game world- and it's rather obvious that it's an insert for that particular point. No offense meant, but as a writer myself, it just seems to be sort of sloppy.

In writing SF/Fantasy, we have something called "Suspension of Disbelief", where you have to get your audience to believe in superheroes, vampires, aliens, whatever. Once you have them believing in Dracula, talking dogs or Vulcans, you really don't want anything to break that spell and have them go "huh?" If they do, you have to capture them back again, and it's harder each time. The condom/single bullet business is something like that for me.
 
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Yes, but, I do agree with 90% of his points - except the breasts - because by chapter 3 I think you do have a wide pallet of breast sizes.

Take Lucas - he is imo the most two dimensional character.

Take the male characters - none of there renders (take this with a grain of salt as I am neither gay nor bi) are sexy enough to be a visual worry that they would steal D. Imo.

The one condom is kind like a “game limit” forcing one to use it with Elena or Olivia.

Yeah,I can see the issue with Elena being annoying, but there are some women (and plenty of men) with a similar attitude.

As to Richard, Ricco, etc., he is correct. My belief this is more of a conscious effort by MDots - like with Lois Lane, Lex Luthor, etc



As to the alternate world of no pubic hair - this script was also written in for fun due to a long discussion by Patreon fans complaining about the lack of pubic hair. I would say we all have modern porn to thank for the bare pubs artistic choice.

But all and all, I understand his points and they have all been discussed before. The ONE I hope we fix - at least in future projects - is the unappealing male. I think it really is MDots likes manipulating the female form way more than the male form - and that might make all the difference.
I was not making reference to his post specifically just a general shout out to the haters
 

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I have found on this thread, and throughout life there are those who are mentally Hard wired to be negatively predisposed. Nothing is truly acceptable to them. They must find fault in anyone, or anything in order to elevate their self worth. It seem's to always come at the expense of others, or to denigrate anything of importance, value or worth. We should not be angry with these people as they are incapable of helping themselves. but pity them...

"...I'd put it as among the top 5 3D games that I've been able to play in character design & ease of play. I really like that there's no "she's actually adopted or your step-daughter" or other attempts to avoid actual incest. Georgina, daughter, Jennifer and the other girls are darn right gorgious!"

...

"Sorry to sound like a complainer- I really did enjoy the first chapter, and look forward to playing the next one.

"Good luck with future endeavors!"

If you were referring to MY post above, WHERE'S the "negatively predisposed" attitude? Because I made some negative criticisms (all of which are minor points)? I am a writer myself and I know people who write code and design games. The people I know WANT input and, frankly, negative information is usually more USEFUL than blatant ass-kissing. All of my criticisms were intended to be informative- not the "This game is shit!"-sort, which is just insulting and not helpful to ANYONE. I FIRMLY Believe that pointing out people's mistakes (in a respectful & tactful way, of course) helps them to prevent repeating those mistakes and maybe others. But if I was too critical, due to poor phrasing or grammar, no deliberate offense was intended- I was trying to be helpful.
 
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"...I'd put it as among the top 5 3D games that I've been able to play in character design & ease of play. I really like that there's no "she's actually adopted or your step-daughter" or other attempts to avoid actual incest. Georgina, daughter, Jennifer and the other girls are darn right gorgious!"

...

"Sorry to sound like a complainer- I really did enjoy the first chapter, and look forward to playing the next one.

"Good luck with future endeavors!"

If you were referring to MY post above, WHERE'S the "negatively predisposed" attitude? Because I made some negative criticisms (all of which are minor points)? I am a writer myself and I know people who write code and design games. The people I know WANT input and, frankly, negative information is usually more USEFUL than blatant ass-kissing. Pointing out peoples mistakes helps them to prevent repeating them.
No your post is fine
 

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This maybe a silly question but does anyone know roughly when the whole of chapter 3 will be finished? Last I played it ended on day 30 not sure what day it goes to now, and also if I choose a relationship/sex with another character does it stop me from the main goal of the daughter?
 

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This maybe a silly question but does anyone know roughly when the whole of chapter 3 will be finished? Last I played it ended on day 30 not sure what day it goes to now, and also if I choose a relationship/sex with another character does it stop me from the main goal of the daughter?
We should end the last quarter of 2020 or sometime in 2021. We are up to day 32 - and currently we are working on days 33-34 for release at the end of the month. Every path you take in this game ends up with D - the other characters crest pe variations in the ending with D still being the number one.
 

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We should end the last quarter of 2020 or sometime in 2021. We are up to day 32 - and currently we are working on days 33-34 for release at the end of the month. Every path you take in this game ends up with D - the other characters crest pe variations in the ending with D still being the number one.
... you mean end of next month...
... end of this month is melody :p
(or did you guys again changed the schedule and didn't inform us, nor did you change MrDots site?)
 
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We should end the last quarter of 2020 or sometime in 2021. We are up to day 32 - and currently we are working on days 33-34 for release at the end of the month. Every path you take in this game ends up with D - the other characters crest pe variations in the ending with D still being the number one.
Cheers first time round I chose not to go after anyone because the game ended when I didn't delete the pic elena sends you, figured shagging someone else would give me the same outcome so after that I was like right go for the daughter and daughter only lol
 

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"- The hotel only has ONE condom available and there's no other in the ENTIRE Game?..."

THAT was my point- the condom is a plot point and there's only one available in a venue that should have had a box or bowl full of them and he (the Concierge?) says that they make them available for their guests.
My "huh?" moment was not that there was only one condom provided by the hotel, it was that there WAS a condom provided by the hotel. Did the place rent rooms by the hour?
The concierge providing a condom was merely a vehicle to introduce the item into the storyline. But seriously if you were in a hotel and a staff member came to your door and said "Hey you forgot your complimentary condom." what would be your reaction? "Hey this condom has the hotel logo on it."
It would have been amusing if the condom, like hotel shampoo, was in miniature.

I can appreciate the difficulty involved in introducing material into a story, especially when writers and artist only have a few days to work out the details, but some of the elements of DMD seem to take the long way round the barn to do this.
Instead of inventing a weird Donutstan school system to explain why D and Elena are 19 and still in high school it would have been much easier to say Elena failed a year due to her, well being Elena and D's mother held her back a year because she thought D was too "immature" to start school. This could have led to D and Elena naturally becoming friends because they were both a year older than the other students.

IMO overall DMD is a very well conceived and written VN with attractive female characters so any minor hick-ups can rightfully be overlooked by the fans.
 
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