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And? The game is presented in the synopsis and title as well as years worth of updates about being about F/D in a relationship. If they can pace palm a fella for simply asking can you choose NOT to date her then I can mock too all these recent demand for practically anything BUT said relationship ignoring the bleeding obvious. Not least the fact tags mean squat - the MC could corrupt a young black hottie and the game would still adhere to these tags your pointing out.

Speaking of them. I get annoyed at tags as they're too often prospective ones, im a preggo lover - I get burned more than most combined being into that kink with tags trust me haha.
 

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I downloaded the Android version as I played all the chapters this way. However the game ends for me at day 37 just like v.026. How do I get passed this? Is it a bad file? PLEASE HELP
 

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No idea why they are facepalming this post - people can demand the dev start adding in animals and that's ok or demanding despite years of how the story was presented everyone break characters and just have D suck BBC four years into a games development cycle but simply asking if this game can be played like other popular games (DFDessert comes to mind) where you can choose NOT to pursue the D but instead other Love Interests instead isn't a face palm worthy post.

Issue is the game as name implies was about F/D from the very offset - its the way it was for years till 2020 rise of the break character promotors which is turning the game into a hot turd of a mess as D suddenly starts developing desires for others completely out of nowhere to appease the vocal minority and MC is to suddenly be deliriously happy to share D after proposing to her and spending all the previous chapters being possessive as fuck about her as if a different author showed up 3/4 into a script and rewrote all the characters asking us to pretend the changes are organic and not off putting.

Still think its a decent idea and would at least be a much better foundation of a story to have D with others vs naïve besotted with F girl who didnt want to leave his side, desired nothing more than to move in with him and was over the moon at being proposed to by him suddenly turns into complete whore for any and all cock in a mile radius just because she has learned how to play hide the sausage in a couple of weeks. Still this has been overtly discussed for days now so I wont beat a dead horse and will just wait and see what final updates of the year brings in particular the end of year re-write of the older content. Who knows maybe this is something he will look into adding or at least not so much a no-D path but instead a renewed focus on the other LI characters for both F and D.
As a fan:
D is a fictional "human" (in the realm of fictional Donutistan) and was helped to break out of her fictional emotional (and in ways, physical) imprisonment by the end of Chapter 2, mostly with the help of the MC - though, aided and abetted by Elena, Jennifer, etc.

Since breaking from the princess tower that her mother constructed+guarded, and all that entailed, we have witnessed an "awakening" of D's individuality. Her character has been shown as keen to follow her own path, which has included romantic and increasingly realized sexual urges - influenced by the MC as they became closer (there's an argument he was manipulating her all along, but that's a different point), as Elena has increasingly made physical advances, by example of a friendly and swinging intimate couple who happen to be father/daugher and so forth. She has responded to these inputs and experiences by letting herself be open to new experiences and enjoying them as much as possible.

It's not always easy to watch kids/teens grow up and become someone completely different than they started as, or to become highly adult and independent when we thought they would always stay bound to their elders or past friends. But, you know, everyone finds their own path and for all sorts of reasons.

To that point, some players have complained quite loudly about how slow D's progression forward seemed to be in Chapters 1 and 2, wanting PinV and more from the original MrDots bucket list ASAP - skip all the dating and awakening stuff. Others thought it was just right or at least reasonable, for the most part.

It took awhile for D to simply build her confidence and accept experiencing an orgasm, if everyone remembers - that was offered as a significant milestone in her sexual health growth path and it could be argued that was a catalyst for her rapid sexual exploration, which had been repressed by her mother up until at least her late teens. Still, it took two whole Chapters of the game until she advanced to losing her virginity, which was presented as part of a larger triumph and literal climax in her maturity growth path (personal and sexual) at the time.

All of her gradual awakening and acceptance of sexuality was fully supported by the MC, who has encouraged her to try new things and not hold back on her imagination - with that type of support (or - it can be argued - corruption, manipulation) there have been no practical limits to her wanting to experience more of what she never tried to imagine before reaching adulthood. It's as if the floodgates were opened and no limiters were present, because she's been enabled AND encouraged to go with her feelings. Your best friend keeps making lesbian advances to you and it feels good, too? Sure, slowly give in and accept that you enjoy it. Find your F to be handsome and sexually appealing? OK, start with play-dating and let your deeper feelings grow, then progress to fantasies and live those out because nobody is holding you back. Meet a swinging, incestuous couple? Sure, trust them and follow their lead for visiting a "love club" and try couples sex in the same room. Friends and aquaintances are naturally horny - like so many adults - and find you incredibly attractive. Well then, being bisexual and open to sex with others only makes having threesomes (and more) seem completely rational and desirable, given the right context.

If you're complaining about D growing as a person with constantly expressed and newly experienced sexual urges or ideas, then maybe look back at her character's growth path in this years-old game. Chapter 4 was welcomed by many because her capabilities and possibilities are still unbound at this point and it would be a shame to just shut down her tale - and those of many other characters in DMD - just because you might feel the urge to contain her romantic bonds or expressions to the MC. Or to a time when she was still hopelessly naive and easy to manipulate. Or back to a point where she needed more guidance/coaching to even know how to express herself like an adult of her age range.

She's now independent-minded, making her own choices, deciding to experience what she wants and soaking in new things that resonate in her heart and physicality. If you can't accept much of what her character has been doing or may do beyond the MC's domain (or control), there is always the D-only path that MrDots' team has continually stated they are trying to keep interesting, even as they grow her beyond-MC paths further.

As a member of this community:
Please try to avoid even implicit kink-shaming in this thread: some players are enjoying D becoming unbound and trying new things, moving far from her innocent/naive days under her mother's thumb. In recent releases we see people complaining that she has more sexcapades and with whom - as if this hasn't been a long time coming or obvious across the past couple of years.

If you don't like where her story paths are going or her potential partners - for whatever reasons - you should certainly feel free to express your opinion, but I would recommend you try to avoid the appearance of biases against or condemnation for those who find those aspects of D's growth appealing.
 
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As a fan:
D is a fictional "human" (in the realm of fictional Donutistan) and was helped to break out of her fictional emotional (and in ways, physical) imprisonment by the end of Chapter 2, mostly with the help of the MC - though, aided and abetted by Elena, Jennifer, etc.

Since breaking from the princess tower that her mother constructed+guarded, and all that entailed, we have witnessed an "awakening" of D's individuality. Her character has been shown as keen to follow her own path, which has included romantic and increasingly realized sexual urges - influenced by the MC as they became closer (there's an argument he was manipulating her all along, but that's a different point), as Elena has increasingly made physical advances, by example of a friendly and swinging intimate couple who happen to be father/daugher and so forth. She has responded to these inputs and experiences by letting herself be open to new experiences and enjoying them as much as possible.

It's not always easy to watch kids/teens grow up and become someone completely different than they started as, or to become highly adult and independent when we thought they would always stay bound to their elders or past friends. But, you know, everyone finds their own path and for all sorts of reasons.

To that point, some players have complained quite loudly about how slow D's progression forward seemed to be in Chapters 1 and 2, wanting PinV and more from the original MrDots bucket list ASAP - skip all the dating and awakening stuff. Others thought it was just right or at least reasonable, for the most part.

It took awhile for D to simply build her confidence and accept experiencing an orgasm, if everyone remembers - that was offered as a significant milestone in her sexual health growth path and it could be argued that was a catalyst for her rapid sexual exploration, which had been repressed by her mother up until at least her late teens. Still, it took two whole Chapters of the game until she advanced to losing her virginity, which was presented as part of a larger triumph and literal climax in her maturity growth path (personal and sexual) at the time.

All of her gradual awakening and acceptance of sexuality was fully supported by the MC, who has encouraged her to try new things and not hold back on her imagination - with that type of support (or - it can be argued - corruption, manipulation) there have been no practical limits to her wanting to experience more of what she never tried to imagine before reaching adulthood. It's as if the floodgates were opened and no limiters were present, because she's been enabled AND encouraged to go with her feelings. Your best friend keeps making lesbian advances to you and it feels good, too? Sure, slowly give in and accept that you enjoy it. Find your F to be handsome and sexually appealing? OK, start with play-dating and let your deeper feelings grow, then progress to fantasies and live those out because nobody is holding you back. Meet a swinging, incestuous couple? Sure, trust them and follow their lead for visiting a "love club" and try couples sex in the same room. Friends and aquaintances are naturally horny - like so many adults - and find you incredibly attractive. Well then, being bisexual and open to sex with others only makes having threesomes (and more) seem completely rational and desirable, given the right context.

If you're complaining about D growing as a person with constantly expressed and newly experienced sexual urges or ideas, then maybe look back at her character's growth path in this years-old game. Chapter 4 was welcomed by many because her capabilities and possibilities are still unbound at this point and it would be a shame to just shut down her tale - and those of many other characters in DMD - just because you might feel the urge to contain her romantic bonds or expressions to the MC. Or to a time when she was still hopelessly naive and easy to manipulate. Or back to a point where she needed more guidance/coaching to even know how to express herself like an adult of her age range.

She's now independent-minded, making her own choices, deciding to experience what she wants and soaking in new things that resonate in her heart and physicality. If you can't accept much of what her character has been doing or may do beyond the MC's domain (or control), there is always the D-only path that MrDots' team has continually stated they are trying to keep interesting, even as they grow her beyond-MC paths further.

As a member of this community:
Please try to avoid even implicit kink-shaming in this thread: some players are enjoying D becoming unbound and trying new things, moving far from her innocent/naive days under her mother's thumb. In recent releases we see people complaining that she has more sexcapades and with whom - as if this hasn't been a long time coming or obvious across the past couple of years.

If you don't like where her story paths are going or her potential partners - for whatever reasons - you should certainly feel free to express your opinion, but I would recommend you try to avoid the appearance of biases against or condemnation for those who find those aspects of D's growth appealing.
The main argument I have against your analysis is that it would be correct for a female protagonist game, but this is the story of a male protagonist, the father is the MC and not the daughter. Also the offered sharing options do not make much sense either from D's or f's perspective. :) For the rest is an interesting and valid defence.
 
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The main argument I have against your analysis is that it would be correct for a female protagonist game, but this is the story of a male protagonist, the father is the MC and not the daughter. :) For the rest is an interesting and valid defence.
I'm not sure how the MC being F or D makes a difference in the case of D's possible paths as offered - we often make choices for both characters, depending on where you are in the storyline(s) and even then your choices as purely MC (F) have clear effects on what D experiences with you or others.
 

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I'm not sure how the MC being F or D makes a difference in the case of D's possible paths as offered - we often make choices for both characters, depending on where you are in the storyline(s) and even then your choices as purely MC (F) have clear effects on what D experiences with you or others.
The thing is that the game is not about D's development in the end on her own, but of her in relation to her fathers while he is dating her. If the game would be just about D's development she would be the protagonist of the story, D and her development are a help to telling her fathers story, not the other way around. Now if that were not true, you would have made very interesting points in your post, I did enjoy reading them even if not a fan of your conclusions. :)
 

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I'm not sure how the MC being F or D makes a difference in the case of D's possible paths as offered - we often make choices for both characters, depending on where you are in the storyline(s) and even then your choices as purely MC (F) have clear effects on what D experiences with you or others.
I think what they might be getting at (correct me if I'm wrong DA22) is that since we are primarily in control of F, he is the one guiding and even shaping a lot of what D is interested in by his validations of certain things throughout the story. As such, if F does not validate or approve of certain things, then D is not inclined to do it thus making F the driving force behind D's sexual interests and not D. Therefore, if F approves of her being with other women, then she will feel comfortable with this either with him or on her own, but if F does not approve of her being with other men, then she will not interested in this at all.

So D's sexual maturation is less about her exploring things for herself of her own volition, but more about how the decisions we make as F being what forms and cements her interest in certain sexual acts.
 
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I think what they might be getting at (correct me if I'm wrong DA22) is that since we are primarily in control of F, he is the one guiding and even shaping a lot of what D is interested in by his validations of certain things throughout the story. As such, if F does not validate or approve of certain things, then D is not inclined to do it thus making F the driving force behind D's sexual interests and not D. Therefore, if F approves of her being with other women, then she will feel comfortable with this either with him or on her own, but if F does not approve of her being with other men, then she will not interested in this at all.

So D's sexual maturation is less about her exploring things for herself of her own volition, but more about how the decisions we make as F being what being what forms and cements her interest in certain sexual acts.
That's true to an extent of levers players are given to manipulate the story paths - and therefore, the growth (or not) of the characters. Though, as I noted, there are times we have controlled D's choices as well (e.g., relative to Elena's advances) and I think my point goes beyond game mechanics: we are enabled to grow D's area of personal interests and sexual appetite to some degrees, but certainly in terms of who she finds appealing beyond the MC.

The game mechanics do not hinder D's growth, some of that is forced by the story and the mechanics only speak to her optional growth areas, mostly.

That is, the story otherwise forces her maturity and sexual growth paths, regardless of your choices: by the end of Chapter 3, it is not possible to have a virgin D, for example.

But, it's possible that she never had anal sex. Or intimacy with her feet. Or that she had much to do with Elena. Or that she finds partners/threesomes with people beyond F enticing and acted upon it.

The thing is that the game is not about D's development in the end on her own, but of her in relation to her fathers while he is dating her. If the game would be just about D's development she would be the protagonist of the story, D and her development are a help to telling her fathers story, not the other way around. Now if that were not true, you would have made very interesting points in your post, I did enjoy reading them even if not a fan of your conclusions. :)
That's actually not true, though (as I explained in other posts): this story isn't about the MC, but a larger ecosystem and intermingling of people. You do get to make decisions as D (and other players) in some scenes, even. The gameplay mechanics aren't really limiting the story, it's the player's choices in the end.

But the mechanics don't really matter: you as a player decide on what possibilities that D can experience beyond her relationship with the MC, and even if you choose the least challenging options, she will still mature in her independent thinking and sexual experiences with any path taken. It's just that she can take far more paths than merely MC-only. There are still main paths and variants of that to grow, regardless of whether this was offered as a sandbox game, multi-player control at any time, etc. The narratives are available to choose by the player, but that's only because D has matured enough to make them available at different stages of the game.
 
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The main argument I have against your analysis is that it would be correct for a female protagonist game, but this is the story of a male protagonist, the father is the MC and not the daughter. Also the offered sharing options do not make much sense either from D's or f's perspective. :) For the rest is an interesting and valid defence.
The MC's main motivation since Chapter 1 has been helping D open up to the possibilities in life. It started as him teaching her to be a good girlfriend and has now evolved into helping her explore her sexual urges and desires. The MC has continued doing what he has always done. I disagree with the shared paths not making sense. Georgina got involved because of her relationship with the MC. Elena is involved because she is kinky and loves D. Jennifer is going through her sexual awakening thanks to her attraction to the MC and Elena. The MC found Margo attractive when they first met and now they are sharing. Olivia is attracted to both F and D and they both return the attraction. Martin is the only one that is a little weird but it is part of D's sexual awakening.
 

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That's true to an extent of levers players are given to manipulate the story paths - and therefore, the growth (or not) of the characters. Though, as I noted, there are times we have controlled D's choices as well (e.g., relative to Elena's advances) and I think my point goes beyond game mechanics: we are enabled to grow D's area of personal interests and sexual appetite to some degrees, but certainly in terms of who she finds appealing beyond the MC.

The game mechanics do not hinder D's growth, some of that is forced by the story and the mechanics only speak to her optional growth areas, mostly.

That is, the story otherwise forces her maturity and sexual growth paths, regardless of your choices: by the end of Chapter 3, it is not possible to have a virgin D, for example.

But, it's possible that she never had anal sex. Or intimacy with her feet. Or that she had much to do with Elena. Or that she finds partners/threesomes with people beyond F enticing and acted upon it.
I feel like Elena is something of an outlier in terms of D's independent sexual growth because, as D's best friend, she has the same level of trust in her that she does F and so doesn't see her sexual advances as anything sinister or manipulative but as an act of acceptable intimacy between two people who are close with each other. In this context, I couldn't see D doing anything with Martin, or Graham, or Ryan on her own because that level of trust and connection isn't there with them and is why she would need the approval and assurance of F before doing anything with them.

Therefore, I feel like when we do get those choices when controlling D, it's based on what she's done with the people she trusts (F and Elena) and not on a desire to do something that's independent of what has been approved and accepted by F.
 

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That's true to an extent of levers players are given to manipulate the story paths - and therefore, the growth (or not) of the characters. Though, as I noted, there are times we have controlled D's choices as well (e.g., relative to Elena's advances) and I think my point goes beyond game mechanics: we are enabled to grow D's area of personal interests and sexual appetite to some degrees, but certainly in terms of who she finds appealing beyond the MC.

The game mechanics do not hinder D's growth, some of that is forced by the story and the mechanics only speak to her optional growth areas, mostly.

That is, the story otherwise forces her maturity and sexual growth paths, regardless of your choices: by the end of Chapter 3, it is not possible to have a virgin D, for example.

But, it's possible that she never had anal sex. Or intimacy with her feet. Or that she had much to do with Elena. Or that she finds partners/threesomes with people beyond F enticing and acted upon it.



That's actually not true, though (as I explained in other posts): this story isn't about the MC, but a larger ecosystem and intermingling of people. You do get to make decisions as D (and other players) in some scenes, even. The gameplay mechanics aren't really limiting the story, it's the player's choices in the end.

But the mechanics don't really matter: you as a player decide on what possibilities that D can experience beyond her relationship with the MC, and even if you choose the least challenging options, she will still mature in her independent thinking and sexual experiences with any path taken. It's just that she can take far more paths than merely MC-only. There are still main paths and variants of that to grow, regardless of whether this was offered as a sandbox game, multi-player control at any time, etc. The narratives are available to choose by the player, but that's only because D has matured enough to make them available at different stages of the game.
You are again trying to make it D's story and all about D. Any choices we have been allowed to make as others were when F was not there for story reasons. Though I understand that wish to make it D's story since she is the thing most players focus on, SHE is actually not the focus of the story, but the Father is. That has nothing to do with game mechanics, but is the base setup of the game. It is about fathers interactions with the world and how that shapes the characters in that world. The one exception to that might actually indeed be Elena, who has some shaping actions on D as well independent of the father, but they are still in his interest more or less.

Though the game you want more out of D's perspective might actually have been even a more interesting game as the one we have and something sorely lacking in the female protag genre, especially if would keep rape and blackmail out of it.

Holy Bacchus I think the female choices for threesomes make sense, it is the males that I do not think make much sense, nor in relationship with F and especially D. Nor since each of them is in a way a lesser clone of the F she loves, something that would really arouse her interest as long as she is with F, not even talking from F's perspective. :p (besides if she would be interested to be filled in two holes at same time a FFM threesome would make more sense first anyway, since she is already comfortable with those). Martin could have made sense in a situation before or when she would have never ended up with F, but again this is F's story. Now if there would be a situation where Elena or Jenn had a boyfriend their age, I could see curiosity and closeness to those two from D leading to something with F involved. It is his story afterall and not D's. :p
 
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DEV, no more other guys or women with out the option to say NO at any time! That includes Elena and Georgina. No man is ever truly happy with sharing his bride to be(no matter how or who), he might be seduced to do things but it never sits right and will lead to misery in the long run, it always does. By adding others you will lose players/subscribers/patreons if there is no option to refuse their involvement in the story. Don´t kill the game/story by dumb decisions please.
You missed a true opportunity for a happy ending to the chapter when saying that the MC is the biological father, otherwise a legit wedding followed by a hell of a wedding night could be done. Suggest you recall last update and do that instead.
 

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I feel like Elena is something of an outlier in terms of D's independent sexual growth because, as D's best friend, she has the same level of trust in her that she does F and so doesn't see her sexual advances as anything sinister or manipulative but as an act of acceptable intimacy between two people who are close with each other. In this context, I couldn't see D doing anything with Martin, or Graham, or Ryan on her own because that level of trust and connection isn't there with them and is why she would need the approval and assurance of F before doing anything with them.
Elena isn't a special case any more than the MC in that regard. She's not an outlier, but a direct influence on D, depending on how far D has been willing to go with her. D can also choose whether to try certain experiences with the MC, as well. And various secondary characters.

Regardless of the mechanics how these choices are made, when it comes to advancing D's part of the story, her personal + sexual growth continue to advance. The only options given to the player are how kinky and multi-partner-based those growth paths might become, I assert.

For example, in the wide-open path, D quite clearly wrestled early with her own attraction to Martin in her home. But, her relationship was already bound to the MC and they had spoken of not doing anything with others without communication and agreement. In that context, she's hasn't tried cheating on the MC. But, she has been fantasizing.

And she cheated with Elena, then owned up to it. Unike the MC's paths, she isn't given the options to cheat with many secondary characters. Really, the MC in this game can be a complete, two-faced jerk if you play the game that way: D, on the other hand, continues to trust in their relationship's integrity even as she grows.

To that point, there was much discussion early on that this game should also enable D the options to do what she wanted without MC's approval, perhaps even in response to learning of his cheating ways. It would be an interesting opportunity to fall apart and later come back together again. But, there is a very loud contingent saying NO NTR and such, so not in the cards. As if the MC's cheating wasn't NTR already ...

I'm not sure I know of any moment where D has the option to try something new with another person and you aren't given that option in the game to explore that path, though - by this point, the player is able to offer D a wealth of choices within the context of sharing experiences with her MC fiance - many of which are proposed or led by the actions we see her initiate in this VN.



You are again trying to make it D's story and all about D. Any choices we have been allowed to make as others were when F was not there for story reasons. Though I understand that wish to make it D's story since she is the thing most players focus on, SHE is actually not the focus of the story, but the Father is. That has nothing to do with game mechanics, but is the base setup of the game. It is about fathers interactions with the world and how that shapes the characters in that world. The one exception to that might actually indeed be Elena, who has some shaping actions on D as well independent of the father, but they are still in his interest more or less.
I believe you continue to get hung up on game mechanics, even though you say otherwise: using the MC as the lever for moving the story to different optional paths is merely a mechanism chosen by the Dev for running this Ren'Py-platform game.

As the player, you are moving a Virtual Novel forward - inherent therein is the notion that the novel has predestined paths (in this case, MC and D as a couple) and then optional paths. Your choices as a player decide how many optional paths occur.

In that regard, MC and D are some major characters - this is not focused on the MC's story alone. They are necessarily a pair from practically the beginning and their dynamic is now to the point where D initiates actions/choices to take as much as the MC.

Do we see scenes where D makes decisions devoid of the MC? Absolutely. Does D offer new ideas that the MC hasn't considered or discussed, especially in Chapter 3 as her character becomes more independent and driven? All of the time. Do other characters have their own subplots and motivations? Since the first Chapter, but increasingly so. And so on - this isn't a story about the MC viewing the world, many tales have an initial lens through which the full storyline and all its paths are made available, but then become far greater than the focus of that lens.

Although this game offers MC and D as the primary characters, coincidentally reflecting the title's hinting at their pairing. The MC grows beyond his prior submission to his ex-wife's control of their daughter, but in this VN it is D who grows the most: the MC becomes her partner and enabler, at best. They both grow in affection to each other and the MC can also be argued as manipulating D towards his affections, but ultimately you are given different levers in which to drive the story and D is certainly the most significant member of it, with MC besides her. It doesn't matter than many choices seem made as the MC, but let's not forget that many choices in Chapter 3 are of mutual agreement - not merely the MC forcing the choice of, say, oral sex or a threesome, whether to agree with secondary character propositions, etc.
 
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I believe you continue to get hung up on game mechanics, even though you say otherwise: using the MC as the lever for moving the story to different optional paths is merely a mechanism chosen by the Dev for running this Ren'Py-platform game.

As the player, you are moving a Virtual Novel forward - inherent therein is the notion that the novel has predestined paths (in this case, MC and D as a couple) and then optional paths. Your choices as a player decide how many optional paths occur.

In that regard, MC and D are some major characters - this is not focused on the MC's story alone. They are necessarily a pair from practically the beginning and their dynamic is now to the point where D initiates actions/choices to take as much as the MC.

Do we see scenes where D makes decisions devoid of the MC? Absolutely. Does D offer new ideas that the MC hasn't considered or discussed, especially in Chapter 3 as her character becomes more independent and driven? All of the time. Do other characters have their own subplots and motivations? Since the first Chapter, but increasingly so. And so on - this isn't a story about the MC viewing the world, many tales have an initial lens through which the full storyline and all its paths are made available, but then become far greater than the focus of that lens.

Although this game offers MC and D as the primary characters, coincidentally reflecting the title's hinting at their pairing. The MC grows beyond his prior submission to his ex-wife's control of their daughter, but in this VN it is D who grows the most: the MC becomes her partner and enabler, at best. They both grow in affection to each other and the MC can also be argued as manipulating D towards his affections, but ultimately you are given different levers in which to drive the story and D is certainly the most significant member of it, with MC besides her. It doesn't matter than many choices seem made as the MC, but let's not forget that many choices in Chapter 3 are of mutual agreement - not merely the MC forcing the choice of, say, oral sex or a threesome, whether to agree with secondary character propositions, etc.
I do not think we are ever going to agree, you want to make it a multiple protag game at best, but do have a look at my edit. :p I think we will have to agree to disagree. To me it is a game all about the father and the daughter is just there to help his story and it is not her story. Now like I said in my edit, that game with D as protagonist with all your arguments and analysis in your original post might have made an even more interesting game.
 
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DEV, no more other guys or women with out the option to say NO at any time! That includes Elena and Georgina. No man is ever truly happy with sharing his bride to be(no matter how or who), he might be seduced to do things but it never sits right and will lead to misery in the long run, it always does. By adding others you will lose players/subscribers/patreons if there is no option to refuse their involvement in the story. Don´t kill the game/story by dumb decisions please.
You missed a true opportunity for a happy ending to the chapter when saying that the MC is the biological father, otherwise a legit wedding followed by a hell of a wedding night could be done. Suggest you recall last update and do that instead.
You have the option to say no at pretty much every opportunity. And if you accidentally get on a sharing path, the dev put in a way to turn off the path. Not sure what else the dev could do to help the puritans out.

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DA22

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You have the option to say no at pretty much every opportunity. And if you accidentally get on a sharing path, the dev put in a way to turn off the path. Not sure what else the dev could do to help the puritans out.

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Not putting them in. :p I am not a puritan but not forcing someone not to play them is not same as avoidable especially with forums that share information and things that happen. All wishes and desires are just as valid, in the end it is the devs who decide what will be in and get the flack for it from either group of players.
 

fried

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I do not think we are ever going to agree, you want to make it at best a multiple protag game at best, but do have a look at my edit. :p I think we will have to agree to disagree. To me it is a game all about the father and the daughter is just there to help his story and it is not her story. Now like I said in my edit, that game with D as protagonist with all your arguments and analysis in your original post might have made an even more interesting game.
It is certainly your right to feel that this is a story primarily about the MC.

It doesn't matter that this perspective seems to go against the grain of everything written about its focus by the Dev team, because "art" is up to the viewer.
 

armion82

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DEV, no more other guys or women with out the option to say NO at any time! That includes Elena and Georgina. No man is ever truly happy with sharing his bride to be(no matter how or who), he might be seduced to do things but it never sits right and will lead to misery in the long run, it always does. By adding others you will lose players/subscribers/patreons if there is no option to refuse their involvement in the story. Don´t kill the game/story by dumb decisions please.
You missed a true opportunity for a happy ending to the chapter when saying that the MC is the biological father, otherwise a legit wedding followed by a hell of a wedding night could be done. Suggest you recall last update and do that instead.
Nobody is forcing you to share D with anyone.
 
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