You said you wanted to flesh out the side characters more, well then why didn't you?
I explained why, please re-read.
you seem to believe that romance wouldn't have blossomed unless F had manipulated the daughter, as he did, throughout the game.
Never said that, I said that manipulation is often part of seduction. If you decide to seduce someone, you act differently than how you act normally. You put on a better dress so to say (actually, I think that that is true in any human relationship). You tell stories. You foreshadow great things to come. You try to build a good atmoshpere. You invent excuses to enhance physical contact. That sort of things. Then again. F might be a bit of a perv every once in a while, but so are many of us that play this sort of game I guess... XD So again, it's a matter of identification.
I'm sorry, but did you actually do some research before you got involved with the project? Do you honestly believe that, in real life, every incestuous relationship happens only because the older party member is pulling some strings? Because, if so, you are worse at writing incest porn than summertime saga.
Wow that's rude.
I'll agree with you that I'm a minority on finding the romantic aspects and character bonding to be lackluster, apparently I'm the only one here who has read a romance novel. I must be, if you think the entire holiday (cupid night, Koko, snooker, nude beach, regular beach, etc.) was at all romantic.
So if you are in a minority, MAYBE we are doing things right, since you know, the objective here is being appreciated by the majority, not the minority. That aside, I've read A LOT of erotica, believe me.
But, let's get to that, shall we. You state that you see chapter 1 as setting the tone, introducing the characters, giving them motives and that's it. Yet, not only was it all that a first chapter should be, you failed at what you thought chapter one should be.
Wow that's REALLY rude.
The tone of DMD is inconsistent, the characters were introduced, however, there was never any events that made them anything more than guy who's eyes we are looking out of and sexy lampshade and they didn't have any motives until near the end. Throughout almost the entirety of chapter 1, our characters either do not have motives or they are unsure of their motives. An example being that father flips flops between thinking that the relationship is going to fast and trying to convince D to let him feel her breasts. What even was Daughter's motivation for travelling thousands of miles to see her dad? It felt to me like mild curiosity.
Sounds like a REALLY shitty game to play. I wouldn't bother playing it if I were in you. I would not even bother asking other question out of mild curiosity. Being curious about shit is... I don't know, there is some freudian definition about that I'm sure.
there's no way in hell that you can convince me it's good and doesn't need improving.
Not that I am trying. Not interested in the least, to be frank. Actually, if I thought it was possible, I would try to convince you NOT to play the game, and to deem it ibeyond salbation. But I know that you'll continue to do what you want to do. And that's fair. So yes, continue playing it and continue being disappointed by it. Can't see the point of it for all I'm worth, but that's just me. A lot of people seem to like doing that. There is another freudian term for this too I am sure.
DMD CAN be good, but anything can be good. Unless it ignores valid criticism.
Which, I guess, is what you are providing here. Well thank you. I am not completely sure about how all this validness will help us, but we'll find a way. I guess. Maybe. Definetely maybe. At any rate, it's good to know that we are at least on the same level as anything. Just think if we were worse than anything. Now that would have been something rude to say.
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