Surely you used an existing engine and modified it? In any case it's really well made is what im saying.
Is not Tyrannobuilder. We use our own engine.
Is not Tyrannobuilder. We use our own engine.
Because they're web page only until the free version is released, which is a standalone. The devs do this specifically to try to force people to pay to get the latest chapters. (They keep the link to the web version secret in the patron only posts.)is there a reason why the newest patreon version is never uploaded?
Currently my preferred theory. Aside from making a good bit of sense, it could lead to a threesome.I've always felt that the reason why Kathy feels that way is that she knows the Daughter(Amanda) likes her own dad. She feels like going out with him would be betraying her best friend since he's not only her friend's dad but the man her friend loves. It wouldn't even surprise me if the daughter knows about the stories and/or they are inspired by fantasies she told Kathy.
Yes, we will release a single full game once the chapters are complete.I said it back in chapter 1, really enjoying Palmer's work on this. There is -one- thing that bugs me and it's each chapters being split up. Will there be a full single executable version once it ends, to make playing thru the whole thing simpler?
That's what it looks like. It's like the author intentionally wants to piss in the face of their users. "Let's use a crap engine to begin with, claim it's the best, then refuse to allow off-line play and force you to play in a browser like it's some garbage flash game from 20 years ago, as well as disable all the simple controls that RenPy people enjoy, like easy access to saves, hiding the overlay crap, rollback, etc..."
I still like the game despite this shitting on of the users, but the author seems like a bit of a douche. (And I'm a paying patron, for the record.)
I've honestly been very tempted to port the first chapter to RenPy just to see how much better it would be to have native support for Windows, Linux, and Mac right out of the box, and how much better it would be to play a game where you actually have more control over it like most VNs.
Heh. I'm sure it's tough to resist, but it's unlikely you get much benefit from it (other than that nice - but temporary - warm glow).A few comments to your post:
1) I don't want to piss on anybody unless it's a Sunday; then I'm a fucking fire hose.
2) Our "crap engine" is definitely better than Ren'Py in every regard. Anyone that's ever worked with it and our manual can attest to this.
3) All of our free chapters can be downloaded and played offline.
4) "Author seems like a douche" Yes, that's probably true. I do tend to reply in an asshole manner to asshole comments.
As I asked the other apparent dev... did you create this engine yourself then? It's not another engine like GameMaker etc?A few comments to your post:
1) I don't want to piss on anybody unless it's a Sunday; then I'm a fucking fire hose.
2) Our "crap engine" is definitely better than Ren'Py in every regard. Anyone that's ever worked with it and our manual can attest to this.
3) All of our free chapters can be downloaded and played offline.
4) "Author seems like a douche" Yes, that's probably true. I do tend to reply in an asshole manner to asshole comments.
That's totally fine by meHeh. I'm sure it's tough to resist, but it's unlikely you get much benefit from it (other than that nice - but temporary - warm glow).
Yes, the engine is created by us, using GMS as the platform. How the fuck are we greedy when we release everything we do for free? I'm honestly stunned at that statement. There is a rollback feature, there are cheat codes to change what you previously did without replaying that chapter. The incompatible saves isn't really our fault. We specifically state you can't (at least right now) mix online/offline saves. As for the cracked saves I don't really take responsibility for those.As I asked the other apparent dev... did you create this engine yourself then? It's not another engine like GameMaker etc?
As for the free chapters, that's not the point. As I wrote in later comments, it's an obvious attempt to force players to pay you more money to access the chapters you try to keep locked as web only. The problem is that by being greedy like this you create an incompatibility between the two different versions of the games, and hence see the now numerous comments by players here confused by the different versions with incompatible saves etc.
Again, not to mention things like no rollback, etc. Pretty standard fare for Ren'Py games.
If you had a quality product, I'd think you'd consider doing what most of the other devs here seem to do. You put the game behind a "patron only" post, but have the same single game released there that is released free a few days or weeks later. Same saves, same game, same content within the game... rather than multiple different builds for different chapters, between multiple different platforms, all of which leave many players confused and frustrated... all apparently so you can brag about how great your development tools are, and so you can apparently try to get a few more bucks out of the players by... as I previously said, pissing on them for your own seemingly selfish and somewhat misguided reasons.
You're perfectly free to be an asshole. What I care about is the reasoning that comes along with it.
not now, when i have my popcorn ready :FeelsBadMan:*Trying to stop this convo*
Why on earth would you want to stop the convo?*Trying to stop this convo* So can we get an estimate how many more chapters there will be before this game is complete? Please tell me a double digit number
Agreed. But it is funThere's nothing more entertaining than a dev trying to rationally discuss earning money to people on a pirate site. The incongruity is beyond absurd. It's like watching the initial scenes from Enemy Mine.