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Well, there are these (p131-p133):

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I didn't translate these, but I did reword (not change) just a little bit of the dialogues so that they read better. I also had to re-typset it because whoever did the original typsetting, even if it was Daval himself, clearly had an issue with the font-kerning. I did however tinker with the colors again. I tend to prefer colors that "pop," and the images typically tend to have dull and bland colors. So, here they are.
 

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Well, there are these (p131-p133):

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I didn't translate these, but I did reword (not change) just a little bit of the dialogues so that they read better. I also had to re-typset it because whoever did the original typsetting, even if it was Daval himself, clearly had an issue with the font-kerning. I did however tinker with the colors again. I tend to prefer colors that "pop," and the images typically tend to have dull and bland colors. So, here they are.
I love Daniel's personality, he never gives up on Lana, even though she uses any trick, he knows her better than anyone. But with what he said to him: ''AND WHAT WILL YOU DO? GO OUT TO THE TERRACE AND HAVE A DRINK WITH OTHERS? MY COCK IS ALWAYS STIFF FOR YOU, MOM. AND DEEP DOWN YOU KNOW THAT'S WHAT YOU REALLY WANT.'' Simply magnificent, Daniel loves playing with Lana and as we saw Lana can't resist for long.

Also, from what we've seen in the updates, Daniel may not fuck Sofia, I don't know, time will tell since Daval said that maybe it's just time for someone to find out. Also, apparently, most of his paying members did not like the decision, which is why he made about 5 updates in less than 24 hours. I think Daval got into a cigar for nothing. Because what he thought would fill his wallet almost left it empty:LOL:. And in the end monogamy won.
 
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There are a lot of subscribers against it, but there are also a decent amount of subscribers who seem to like it, so we'll see what happens, the smart decision will be to listen to the majority.

In my case, as a pirate, if Daval decides to turn it into an harem comic or keep it as a monogamous one, I don't mind either, I'm happy as long there's incest taboo, Lana as the main girl and she doesn't fuck other guys (no NTR vibes! please), all that will happen in both scenarios, because Daval isn't dumb enough to separate Lana and Daniel because Sofia or Sharon or any other girl find out, if he ever decides to add other girls to the fun, it will be with Lana's consent and participation, in fact I totally expect Daval writing her as the one with the initiative for a threesome, because at this point we are sure Daniel would never betray Lana, but I can totally see Lana doing that to make her son even more happy, it would not be 100% out of character... if you ask me, if threesomes/orgies ever happen, I prefer it with Sharon or any other future family member, not with Sofia who's just Lana's friend (and clearly not a good one xD)
 
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Hello, New here. I'm up to date with all of Daval's work. I wanted to ask you if you know why Madness Together sometimes says "VIP"? There are 2 versions perhaps?
because all 20$ and more tier are called VIP tiers and MT is VIP tier comic. Rest of VIP comics are oneshot,only MT keept going.
 
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There are a lot of subscribers against it, but there are also a decent amount of subscribers who seem to like it, so we'll see what happens, the smart decision will be to listen to the majority.

In my case, as a pirate, if Daval decides to turn it into an harem comic or keep it as a monogamous one, I don't mind either, I'm happy as long there's incest taboo, Lana as the main girl and she doesn't fuck other guys (no NTR vibes! please), all that will happen in both scenarios, because Daval isn't dumb enough to separate Lana and Daniel because Sofia or Sharon or any other girl find out, if he ever decides to add other girls to the fun, it will be with Lana's consent and participation, in fact I totally expect Daval writing her as the one with the initiative for a threesome, because at this point we are sure Daniel would never betray Lana, but I can totally see Lana doing that to make her son even more happy, it would not be 100% out of character... if you ask me, if threesomes/orgies ever happen, I prefer it with Sharon or any other future family member, not with Sofia who's just Lana's friend (and clearly not a good one xD)
You say nothing about NTR and literally what we are seeing is like NTR, but since nobody cares about Alex, they don't complain, but if someone touches Lana they get excited
 
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No opinion really matters much except Daval's. But you get to notice his own mistakes when he goes out to explain things 5 times, just to avoid being ''Lynched'' in quotes. And as I say, going from 0 to 100 is not normal, it does not go from 53 likes and 0 dislikes to 49 likes and 30 dislikes. There is a very large gap between these figures. If only I hadn't ignored the criticism like with Uncle Peter's case, but it didn't even take me a day to do my damage control. Maybe time will speak. But let's not deny the obvious.
 
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8TB

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I love Daniel's personality,
So do I. It meshes well with Lana's, who's presumably the modest one. It allows for Daniel to be the "dominant" one, as opposed to characters like David or Liam (presumably,) who may assert themselves, but are pretty subservient to the intentions of their female counterparts. I get that's part of the Oedipal fantasy--I mean women like Lana, Sarah, and Amanda are not just older, but also they're the parents--not to mention, it's not lost on me that each of these women are uncommonly taller than their ADULT SONS/NEPHEW--so why would they not express their authority? Daniel's attitude and approach, however, does a good job of subverting Lana's parental authority. He respects her authority in all matters except sex--and that appeals to not just an Oedipal fantasy, but a male power fantasy as well. I think that's part of the reason there's a cult-following for Uncle Peter. Despite his participation not embodying anything Oedipal, it does reflect a male-power fantasy. And Immoral Desires has done a good job at combining both fantasies, which I believe lends itself substantially to Immoral Desires' being Daval's most popular comic.

Also, apparently, most of his paying members did not like the decision, which is why he made about 5 updates in less than 24 hours. I think Daval got into a cigar for nothing. Because what he thought would fill his wallet almost left it empty:LOL:. And in the end monogamy won.
I'm glad you pointed this out. Because I've seen a lot of commentary on how the nearly monoamorous nature of Immoral Desires' sexual content will eventually get boring. And while I wouldn't presume to speak for everyone, I've stated before, and I believe Dustellar reiterated (and Daval cited his apprehension of this prospect,) that everything, especially sexually explicit content, will eventually get boring. The fact that Immoral Desires has gone this long, leading an artist's other works in popularity, primarily featuring the sexual relationship of just two of its main characters is actually QUITE RARE. Most 3D comics feature a harem, or NTR.

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As I understand it, the Spanish Translation is usually leaked first, and then the English Translation is either leaked, or industrious members with Spanish backgrounds can take the initiative and translate the leaked images themselves. As I also understand it, the leaks appear to coincide with entire or at least the majority of a scene, so the images have been out for a while now. I decided to produce them here since someone asked.
 

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You say nothing about NTR and literally what we are seeing is like NTR, but since nobody cares about Alex, they don't complain, but if someone touches Lana they get excited
Technically speaking, and I had a similar exchange with Donnie, Immoral Desires is NTR. Lana is making a cuckold of Alex, no doubt about it. But as Trile3 pointed out, since Alex isn't the main male character, what we commonly describe as NTR ("netorare") falls short in its application to this series. This series is more "Netori" which usually gets distinguished from NTR because it involves the main male character being the beneficiary rather than the victim of a cuckolded relationship. And I will concede to you that Immoral Desires is without question, "Netori."
 

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So do I. It meshes well with Lana's, who's presumably the modest one. It allows for Daniel to be the "dominant" one, as opposed to characters like David or Liam (presumably,) who may assert themselves, but are pretty subservient to the intentions of their female counterparts. I get that's part of the Oedipal fantasy--I mean women like Lana, Sarah, and Amanda are not just older, but also they're the parents--not to mention, it's not lost on me that each of these women are uncommonly taller than their ADULT SONS/NEPHEW--so why would they not express their authority? Daniel's attitude and approach, however, does a good job of subverting Lana's parental authority. He respects her authority in all matters except sex--and that appeals to not just an Oedipal fantasy, but a male power fantasy as well. I think that's part of the reason there's a cult-following for Uncle Peter. Despite his participation not embodying anything Oedipal, it does reflect a male-power fantasy. And Immoral Desires has done a good job at combining both fantasies, which I believe lends itself substantially to Immoral Desires' being Daval's most popular comic.
Some people believe that the sun is covered with a finger but there is no doubt that ID, before this, kept his crown. And as I say, the data does not lie. Good analysis of Daniel. I like how you and the other guy Jack_Cy emphasize those details that enrich the work.
No opinion really matters much except Daval's. But you get to notice his own mistakes when he goes out to explain things 5 times, just to avoid being ''Lynched'' in quotes. And as I say, going from 0 to 100 is not normal, it does not go from 53 likes and 0 dislikes to 49 likes and 30 dislikes. There is a very large gap between these figures. If only I hadn't ignored the criticism like with Uncle Peter's case, but it didn't even take me a day to do my damage control. Maybe time will speak. But let's not deny the obvious.
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J0K3RXXX

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Despite the huge differences between both contents, ID9's cliffhanger reminded me quite a bit of the cliffhanger made by OrbOrigin at the end of Part 11 of his great A Mother's Love.

After that AML's cliffhanger, everyone was outraged and angry that Nicole could have slept with her husband John, thus betraying the MC, since it was the most logical outcome in the face of such a cliffhanger. However, the dev kept that suspense going throughout Part 12 and only resolved the doubts about it in Part 13, denying that anything had happened between her and her husband, to the great relief of the MC and the players and fans of the game. Despite all the criticism, Orb stuck to his guns and followed his script from the beginning (some players remembered that a long time ago, when faced with a similar doubt in the past, he said that Nicole was only for the MC and he was true to his word).

In my opinion, Daval3D has tried to do something similar to that AML cliffhanger with the ending of ID9, encouraging the suspicion that ID would apparently follow a similar path to his SN (threesomes and orgies) and then finally keep Lana and his son exclusively for each other, but faced with complaints from his fans (who are still upset by the appearance of that older guy in his MT), he has not only given in to the pressure but has "apparently" revealed the content of the next Part (I say "apparently" because it may be an attempt to dodge the issue while hiding his real script, although he has been too descriptive for me to believe he is lying about it).

Personally, I think there are three possibilities for Daniel and Lana to get out of this without being discovered and without Sofia enjoying Daniel's cock...
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Despite the huge differences between both contents, ID9's cliffhanger reminded me quite a bit of the cliffhanger made by OrbOrigin at the end of Part 11 of his great A Mother's Love.

After that AML's cliffhanger, everyone was outraged and angry that Nicole could have slept with her husband John, thus betraying the MC, since it was the most logical outcome in the face of such a cliffhanger. However, the dev kept that suspense going throughout Part 12 and only resolved the doubts about it in Part 13, denying that anything had happened between her and her husband, to the great relief of the MC and the players and fans of the game. Despite all the criticism, Orb stuck to his guns and followed his script from the beginning (some players remembered that a long time ago, when faced with a similar doubt in the past, he said that Nicole was only for the MC and he was true to his word).

In my opinion, Daval3D has tried to do something similar to that AML cliffhanger with the ending of ID9, encouraging the suspicion that ID would apparently follow a similar path to his SN (threesomes and orgies) and then finally keep Lana and his son exclusively for each other, but faced with complaints from his fans (who are still upset by the appearance of that older guy in his MT), he has not only given in to the pressure but has "apparently" revealed the content of the next Part (I say "apparently" because it may be an attempt to dodge the issue while hiding his real script, although he has been too descriptive for me to believe he is lying about it).

Personally, I think there are three possibilities for Daniel and Lana to get out of this without being discovered and without Sofia enjoying Daniel's cock...
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All plausible. May I add a fourth?

4. Lana appeals to Sofia's sensibilities, hearkening back to their conversation about her dissatisfaction with her marriage. Lana can cite that her marriage is not as perfect as her friends made it seem, and that's the reason she turned to Daniel. Sofia can then suggest that she, too, was seeking Daniel in order to alleviate some of the tension in her own marriage, and propose that they share Daniel. Now, either two things can happen: (1) Daniel can outright reject this, professing that his interests lie solely in his mother, or and I'd much prefer this (2) Lana outright rejects this ("jealous mode") and claims that because Daniel is her son, she cannot in good conscience allow him to have sex with one of her friends. Lana states that she's willing to face the consequences of her infidelity even it means having her trysts with Daniel exposed to Alex. Sofia, seeing how determined Lana is to protect Daniel, decides to respect Lana's decision and keep Lana and Daniel's secret to herself. Because, she--Sofia that is--actually is a good friend to Lana. As Sofia turns around and reaches for the door, Daniel reminds her that both he and his mother know of her infidelity, and that it would be in her best interest to keep quiet. Sofia pauses for a second, and then leaves. Just outside the door, she spots her husband who has been looking for her. Her husband asks her what she was doing near Daniel's guest bedroom, and she makes up an excuse to get them both away from proximity to where Daniel and Lana were having sex. Sofia reflects on the earlier events, alluding to how scary Daniel can be in defense of his own mother, and decides to give up on him for the foreseeable future.
 

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All plausible. May I add a fourth?

4. Lana appeals to Sofia's sensibilities, hearkening back to their conversation about her dissatisfaction with her marriage. Lana can cite that her marriage is not as perfect as her friends made it seem, and that's the reason she turned to Daniel. Sofia can then suggest that she, too, was seeking Daniel in order to alleviate some of the tension in her own marriage, and propose that they share Daniel. Now, either two things can happen: (1) Daniel can outright reject this, professing that his interests lie solely in his mother, or and I'd much prefer this (2) Lana outright rejects this ("jealous mode") and claims that because Daniel is her son, she cannot in good conscience allow him to have sex with one of her friends. Lana states that she's willing to face the consequences of her infidelity even it means having her trysts with Daniel exposed to Alex. Sofia, seeing how determined Lana is to protect Daniel, decides to respect Lana's decision and keep Lana and Daniel's secret to herself. Because, she--Sofia that is--actually is a good friend to Lana. As Sofia turns around and reaches for the door, Daniel reminds her that both he and his mother know of her infidelity, and that it would be in her best interest to keep quiet. Sofia pauses for a second, and then leaves. Just outside the door, she spots her husband who has been looking for her. Her husband asks her what she was doing near Daniel's guest bedroom, and she makes up an excuse to get them both away from proximity to where Daniel and Lana were having sex. Sofia reflects on the earlier events, alluding to how scary Daniel can be in defense of his own mother, and decides to give up on him for the foreseeable future.
A very interesting plausible option, which adds that Martha could be suspicious of Sofia's sudden change of attitude and encourages her to try to be alone with Daniel on her own.
 
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Technically speaking, and I had a similar exchange with Donnie, Immoral Desires is NTR. Lana is making a cuckold of Alex, no doubt about it. But as Trile3 pointed out, since Alex isn't the main male character, what we commonly describe as NTR ("netorare") falls short in its application to this series. This series is more "Netori" which usually gets distinguished from NTR because it involves the main male character being the beneficiary rather than the victim of a cuckolded relationship. And I will concede to you that Immoral Desires is without question, "Netori."
Ok thanks for the clarification
 
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