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Damn this dude daniel seems pure evil in this work..i wonder why they say Uncle peter is a bad person
Because Daniel is presented as a horny teenager which is okay because your hormones can make you do a lot of shit during teenage years. But peter is an horny old man which is hated in every modern society. I hope I managed to clear things.
https://f95zone.to/threads/daval3d-collection-2025-05-05-daval3d.79941/post-16949269
You forgot that one of Lana's friends have been sleeping with a black boy. And the first chapter made me believe that Lana wound end up sleeping with a black boy/guy too. Thank god that didn’t happen.
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Sharing it to give ppl false hope (purple is mystery)
8TB
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Haha! I don't think there's much to worry about. Taking one's coffee "black" is an actual expression; I would assume the "blacker" part is a result of the language barrier, and Daniel simply means no "additives" like cream or milk.
Because ultimately, Daniel isn't coercing Lana. His drugging Alex is nothing new, as he notes himself when recalling the events of Chapter 6. Daniel's aggressive, but he loves Lana. Uncle Peter, on the other hand, is a consequence of poor writing. When first introduced, he's presented as a doting, flattering, yet slightly mischievous and manipulative uncle. However, since Daval proceeded with his inclusion despite the protests of his subscribers, he mutated Uncle Peter's personality to that which would assure the fan base that there'd be no possible extended relationship between Sarah and her uncle. In other words, Daval turned Uncle Peter from someone who was constantly complimenting Sarah (something Sarah even notes had been going on since she lived with him in her youth) to someone who berates her and coerces her into sex--although, whether Uncle Peter "coerces" Sarah is up for debate. And if I remember correctly, in Chapter 6 of MT, Uncle Peter tells Aaron something to the effect of "all women are bitches..." in the hopes of having Aaron not dwell on what he witnessed, but instead seize opportunities to have sex with them when they arise. (And thus imply that Uncle Peter thinks of his own niece as nothing more than a bitch.) And now, even in his own comic, Peter is still an A-hole, of the highest order, the reasons for which are entirely unnecessary.
Uncle Peter's unlikable because Daval made him that way, and it's easier to target him because his appearance suggests creepy, ugly, old pervert. Daniel on the other hand has a decent appearance for a young male his age, and comes off more as "brazen" than "A-hole."
From my perspective i see daniel more evil and corrupted than peter for one reason..he does that acts to his own father..and multiple rapes to his mother..he has no conscience to anyone even his parents..he just want holes of her mom..atleast peter does that acts to his not first blood related..i hope dosnt come to his mind that kills her father someday to own her wife to his..
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I would agree with this. Outside of the convenience the sleeping pills provided Daniel to have some alone time with his mother, it is a messed up thing to do, i.e. drug one's own father. And what probably makes it worse, is that at least from my estimation, there isn't a single unlikable thing about Alex. As much as I like the mother-son incest theme, I'm not beyond calling out deplorable behavior even if it's in service to facilitating the incestuous relationship. For example, some time back I called out Lana's reasons for cheating on Alex as silly. With that said, I would probably push back against the notion that Daniel's evil because the Oedipal Complex isn't simply an expression of a son having sexual desires toward his own mother, it's also an expression of hostility toward one's own father. So even though Daniel's hostility toward Alex is unfortunate, it does make sense.
Daniel doesn't rape Lana. Not even once. The boundaries between family members are far different from the ones between strangers, and thus informs the appeal of incest. (God, you're forcing me to recall this moment.) In Chapter 8, when that stranger gropes Lana, Lana reacts immediately and viscerally saying something to the effect of "get off me." However, in Chapter 2, before Lana and Daniel start having sex of any kind, Daniel would grope her butt a couple of times, and Lana wouldn't say a word, let alone acknowledge it to herself. We also know that Lana, despite her verbal protests, wanted to have sex with her son. Daniel is aggressive and pushes the issue, but he doesn't do anything that violates his mother.
I don't think this is true.
I don't think this is true, either. Daniel states himself that having sex with his mother isn't just about the sex. That it's about love as well. And we can see this informed by the fact that he refuses to have sex with women other than Lana, despite having the opportunities laid out before him.
Uncle Peter and Sarah are blood related. If I remember correctly, Uncle Peter is Sarah's father's older brother. And it's because of this blood relation that I can even tolerate, or admittedly like, Uncle Peter and Sarah's pairing. (As I've said before, I've always liked the Uncle-Niece pairing in incest.) If Uncle Peter was just some random dude, or let's say, Luke's uncle instead, I would've stopped reading MT at the beginning of Chapter 4.
That, too, is possible. The Oedipal Complex once again denotes the hostility a son bears towards his father, usually resulting in a violent confrontation where he seeks to replace his father by murdering him. Do I think that will happen, here? No. I think Alex is more useful as a cover if Daval ever decides to have Daniel impregnate Lana.
Just say you love creepy old men banging young women or goldigger type of stories more. And almost no one will support your theory that Daniel is more evil than peter. And as I already mentioned Daniel is a teen to just post teenage boy/man while peter is an old creep. Their ages makes their personal choices that much more impactful upon the readers.
If you still don't wanna agree, then I guess my first impression about you is 100% correct. Hahaha.
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His current attitude suggest if he has to kill his father in order to keep Lana to himself he's going to do it but don't worry I don't think Daval is going to take that route but ngl would be shocking to see just imagine
.I agree Daniel is evil incarnated.
About the rapes well I can see why you think that way but to be fair a lot of their sexual encounters if not most of them are very very rough just look at Lana facial expressions...
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Sorry for the late comment, but where’s that image from?
I don’t recognize it. It seems from chapter 6, but I've never seen it.
What chapter and image number is it?
Thanks!
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The image with Lana sucking Daniel's testicles is page 164, last page, of Chapter 10 of Immoral Desires.
The image of Alex is from page 26 of Chapter 2 of Immoral Desires.
I like whole story of TO.. from david sarah peter sarah and now aron sarah..so you are wrong
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Agreed TO is quite enjoyable with its unpredictability unlike other monotone stories, heavy agree that Daniel is quite evil himself just like Pete he is really rapey and forces and manipulates his way to get what he wants, the age factor the other guy brought up is also pretty irrelevant, guess his mindset is that it’s more acceptable to be young rapist rather than an old one.
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Is hilarious to me how many white knights Daniel has , they can't fathom even the slightest criticism.
The age gap is so true and relevant to them too old Uncle Peter bad but young Daniel good wtf that's so hypocritical, it looks like they don't pay attention even in the sex scenes
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8TB
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I don't dispute this. But think of this way: if Sarah's father and Uncle Peter are first-degree blood related, then that means that the same dominant genes Sarah inherited from her father are also in Uncle Peter since the siblings are both male. She may not be as related to her uncle as she is to a sibling, but they're not that far off. She's more related to her uncle Peter than she is to her cousins, the daughters who Uncle Peter mentioned. And she's, if only slightly, more related to her uncle, Peter, than she is to David because David inherited his dominant genes from his own father, who as far as we know, isn't related to Sarah. (I think that's part of the reason I like Sarah and David's pairing the least of the three.)
But help me understand Mekalam, because I've seen this more than once, and perhaps my perception is different because I spent most of my childhood and adolescence in the states. Does incest outside of the immediate family make it "less" incestuous? I know cousin incest is more acceptable and less taboo than other forms of incest because it present a viable means to reproduce. Maybe it's me, because I grew up around my cousins, aunts, and uncles, that I tend to see members both of my immediate and extended family as... family.
With all that in my mind, I would agree that Daniel's actions thus far have probably been more egregious than Peter's. Uncle Peter, for as much of an A-hole he is, doesn't resort to narcotics or induced inebriation to get his way. And if we're really being honest, I don't think Uncle Peter force Sarah into sex. It was Sarah who assumed that Uncle Peter's knowledge of her affair with David meant that he would tell Luke. But if I remember the dialog correctly, Uncle Peter never once threatens to tell Luke. He played around with the idea of exposing her affair in Chapter 5, but it was more so his manipulating her to expose herself... which is pretty crappy thing to do.
It's a dilemma: Daniel is more charismatic and likeable, but his actions are probably more egregious; and Uncle Peter is so unlikable, but his actions are less egregious.
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Neither Daniel nor Peter raped anyone. And why is it that when expressing your favor for one of the comics, it has to be at the expense of another? Immoral Desires is my favorite, but I don't qualify that with statements such as "unlike other stories where the women have sex with all the men in their house, or women who almost get raped, or motorboat and play footsie with a stranger's penis, or feature in pinups getting gangbanged by a number of black men and loan-sharks." It's clear that each of these three comics have a thematic identity: Immoral Desires is a comic featuring a virtually monogamous incestuous pairing, V.I.P. Madness: Together features an incest free for all, although it's more like Sarah's harem, and Satisfying Needs for the most part features Liam's incestuous harem with some "extracurricular" activities.
And I don't mean this just for you, Travaruz, but all those who've incessantly complained about Immoral Desires in some revisionist delusion that these complaints are going to somehow make Immoral Desires less popular, or the least featured comic on Daval's site. Or do you guys just resent that a character with Lana's insanely attractive design isn't used in the fetishes you'd like to see play out? And therefore you're going to constantly trash the theme you believe is keeping Lana from being the "goddess" acting out your preferred perversions? Not everyone is going to have a positive opinion, that much I understand. But when the same complaints get repeated over and over, then none of you are really in position to argue "monotony" without contradiction.
I agree neither Daniel nor Peter raped anyone, Daniel never raped Lanna, rough sex yes, insensitive manipulator, too but I have doubts if Daniel is really in love with Lanna or just Lust although he express he is in love with her. But on the other hand he is a teenager so his love towards her might be logically immature (although there is a thin line between strong love and obsession). What I see evil is his attitude towards his father, althouth he is seen by Daniel as an obstacle he drugged him twice without any remorse because of his sexual urges of course he won't kill his father, but It is unrealistic Daniel pretends avoid Alex from having sex with Lana for ever, at some point It woudl result in more aggressive behavior of Daniel towards his father, or Alex discover what is happening under his roof. At the end is an incest comic but how Daniel's Character is showed, he could do ti ha ha. That's evil. What I would like to see It's at least some more action of Rose, Sharon, Sophia or Martha, and I am not implying orgies that change the nature of the comic which is the relationship of Lana and Daniel.
Wath makes me noise is that It is not very credible that nobody (even Alex) do not see something changed in the dynamic of relationship between Lana and Daniel. How many chapters of sneaky sex between them fooling the others does have Daval in mind?. To be clear It is an opinion in this forum, I am no criticizing the suscribers or who likes how it is written i respect all opinions.
Wath makes me noise is that It is not very credible that nobody (even Alex) do not see something changed in the dynamic of relationship between Lana and Daniel. How many chapters of sneaky sex between them fooling the others does have Daval in mind?. To be clear It is an opinion in this forum, I am no criticizing the suscribers or who likes how it is written i respect all opinions.
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Don’t get me wrong ID is good and has its charm however there are times where the story just feels like it’s kinda stuck or the same thing happens each chapter which is Daniel tries Lana to confess her feelings while having risky sex so they don’t get caught. Compare that to TO where it’s aunt with nephew then gets taken advantage of Uncle while Aaron is sleep raping Alice, Aaron then sees Sarah sleep raping David and his disgust turns into sexual urge, Alice gets raped by random woman on toilet and ultimately catches the two of them and now we have Aaron fucking Sarah and hopefully sometime soon Alice with David. And no i don’t resent that Lana isn’t “shared“ because she is insanely attractive, as a matter of a fact i prefer Sarah cuz she looks more feminine. Also both Daniel and Pete are rapists, both women kept saying no and didn’t ultimately wanted it, they even begged them to stop but they didn’t and the women had to accept it. It’s not an issue since it’s just comics but yeah that’s rape, dude.