He's removing the, arguably, best part of the game.
Sad.
Sad.
I realized that you present yourself as a true fan, you are with the developer, whatever he does. Okay.All you are doing is proving the devs point. even if the monster rape was not removed you would still get less and less as story grows and mc grows. The dev would have to force situations and not allow the characters to grow. So you are just proving you dont care about the story. It was only non cannon bad ends if it was a monster rape game then it would continue and change story but that is not what happed. How can you not see why the dev would want to change things the monster stuff would probably stop halfway when mc mans up and we will be right back here with people still wanting more when i repeat it was not a path that is cut it is non cannon bad ends that will now not have to take time and render animations that can now be used for story.
The questions are fine, but in my case, since I haven't seen any of those scenes, nor will I see any of the future ones (if there are any), I'm pretty sure that the part where we have to check how those "incidents" affect the relationship with the MC will not exist because of the absence of such "incidents"When this game was initially published on F95 in October 2021 it was a poor clone of "Kindread: The Redburns" with a disgusting girly MC in blue panties from anime, long boring dialogs and a strange performace bug (it's still in the game). The game was going to become another ordinary vanilla VN like 99% on this site.
Then the dev introduced mating monsters and ability of girls to escape after that (instead of bad ends). It made the game interesting in two ways. Firstly, it's the apocalyptic environment. It was not just a background anymore. How did the infection appear? Who are these monsters? Why are they using women? Do they have breeding nests? So many interesting things to investigate. Secondly, it's relationships in the family after these "incidents". How will they settle all this? Will girls use their ability to not be eaten intentionally (for example, to distract monsters and save MC in some cases)?
LOL the dev is making the game the way they want. Maybe search the thread for the dev's patron post.I glad the monster sex scenes are remaining in the "fan" version at the very least. This game is unique compared to the majority of the games out there. It's one of the things that makes it great. Don't let the haters stop you from make the game you want. Especially since they haters can avoid the scenes they don't want to see. This is just a case of people being people and complaining as usual.
Actually if we are to believe what the developer has said, he has decided to remove those scenes because he saw that people were focusing more on commenting on them than on the actual plot of the game (and after checking, those who commented on the scenes the most are the ones who liked them the most). According to what the Dev said, the scenes don't affect to the develop of the relationship between the MC and their family, they are something secondary in the game. So, removing them doesn't affect to the plot of the game, that remains the same. They are some interesting addition, but without real impact (only the bad endings).I glad the monster sex scenes are remaining in the "fan" version at the very least. This game is unique compared to the majority of the games out there. It's one of the things that makes it great. Don't let the haters stop you from make the game you want. Especially since they haters can avoid the scenes they don't want to see. This is just a case of people being people and complaining as usual.
Q.E.D. Even true fans can't answer uncomfortable questions. In general, it is expected. Double standards work perfectly. It looks like if you answer correctly, as it is, you will be damned and exiled from the vanilla elite of the game. Or have you just not downloaded new answers to uncomfortable questions?I realized that you present yourself as a true fan, you are with the developer, whatever he does. Okay.
Well, answer the simple question that I wrote, what did the NTR scene with Tony, Heidy and Elisabeth give to the plot and character development, especially the MC, how did he grow from this? My answer: Nothing, absolutely nothing. And yours ? So the next thing is to remove all NTR scenes and future ones of course? Or will we wait for the developer to say about it and then you will say it too?
And please don't talk like a chatbot, "dev wants", "all of you confirm the developer", dev..etc.
I guess you're talking about the scenes that the MC's mother imagines on a couple of occasions. I haven't seen them, but since there aren't any more scenes apart of the zombie ones, they must be those.I realized that you present yourself as a true fan, you are with the developer, whatever he does. Okay.
Well, answer the simple question that I wrote, what did the NTR scene with Tony, Heidy and Elisabeth give to the plot and character development, especially the MC, how did he grow from this? My answer: Nothing, absolutely nothing. And yours ? So the next thing is to remove all NTR scenes and future ones of course? Or will we wait for the developer to say about it and then you will say it too?
BlasKyau, I read your position on the already deleted scenes, that you were not against it, and you even liked to avoid them. I remember, but there is such a moment that the phrase - "the scene is completely avoidable" no longer works, all these scenes have been deleted. According to the author, the scenes do not make sense and do not adding anything to the story about MC, etc. And those deleted scenes and those left with NTR content are absolutely useless for the plot around the MC, everyone talked about it so often, including the author.I guess you're talking about the scenes that the MC's mother imagines on a couple of occasions. I haven't seen them, but since there aren't any more scenes apart of the zombie ones, they must be those.
I suppose the contribution is to include some sex scene in the game, without really contributing anything to the plot. Is it necessary to remove them? I don't think so, they shouldn't bother anyone as they are avoidable (apart from being either a memory or imagination at work). In any case, no one has focused the thread's conversation on those scenes, which actually have nothing to do with NTR.
This is exactly what happened, and one of the characters in the game told about them. This has already been written about above, the author built it into the plot, examples of dialogue were higher. And the so-called "fetishists" (I don't want to write Z-words so that the bots don't spam again), perceived this story as part of it, and therefore the author who wrote it in the story, too. And I agree with them, it was there.Does the scene with the rape by the zombies make sense? The question of whether these scenarios play a role for the main protagonists or not is only important if this kind of reproduction will play a role in the story. If the developer implements the idea for a zombie evolution into his story in a believable way, then these rape scenes represent a real danger in the everyday life of the female heroes. And I was fine with my avatars avoiding these events.
But if he only included them to serve more fetishes, they should and can be dispensed with without problems.
Here I agree and I think that this is one of the hidden reasons. True, it worked exactly the opposite, the vanilla trend exceeded any others many times over. Although it's funny how much hate just a couple of "completely avoidable" scenes can cause.I think anyway that those who want these scenes banned rather have a problem with the fact that other players simply have more content in the game than they do.
I actually wouldn't have removed anything from the game, it was fine the way it was in my opinion.BlasKyau, I read your position on the already deleted scenes, that you were not against it, and you even liked to avoid them. I remember, but there is such a moment that the phrase - "the scene is completely avoidable" no longer works, all these scenes have been deleted. According to the author, the scenes do not make sense and do not adding anything to the story about MC, etc. And those deleted scenes and those left with NTR content are absolutely useless for the plot around the MC, everyone talked about it so often, including the author.
And a reasonable question, about those double standards that I mentioned, why hasn't this completely avoided scene been removed yet?
I don’t call for deleting everything in a row, that’s enough, they’ve already deleted more than necessary, I just don’t like it when people contradict themselves. Funny that these deleted scenes could been just an imagination/flashback one of the characters, and this useless "avoidable thing" could work, but who cares, right?
After all, they themselves opened this pandora's box, someday it will play with them, also.
From Patreon post:
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Hello everyone. I feel like I need to really be honest with you after what I said in the previous posts. When I look at the comments and reactions, I think I probably wasn't clear enough about the future of the game and about the main idea of the monster sex scenes. At first, these scenes were made to be an explanation for future plot related events in the game and I also wanted to shock the players and have more impactful consequences than just death, after getting caught by the zombies. I now realised that they were honestly a huge mistake on my part. The plot point I'm referring to, can be explained in many different ways that don't involve violent zombie sex, that could potentially get my game banned from this platform. The current scenes that didn't result in game over barely changed (the ones with Elisabeth) barely impacted the plot, only a few dialogue lines, there's barely any unique scenes to this route that follow how she is dealing with the situation. So yeah, I've concluded they don't add anything meaningful to the plot. Many of you though the game would focus on the zombie scenes when, in fact, they were gonna become even more rare the further we got into the story and are already a minority of the scenes. The thing is, I'm tired of them. They don't truly add anything to the plot I have planned and have been reduce to a mere fetish. You could say I now have some kind of toxic relationship with them. I could keep making them but I would be butchering my characters for no reason. For example, look at a future where the MC is strong enough to protect the ones he loves but because I need to do the update quota of zombie scenes, I end up making an unbelievable situation by that point if the story, where the characters behave nonsensically and the plot goes off the rails.
These scenes were never the core of my story, and from now on, forcing myself to make more of them to please you would just end up making the quality of the game worse. I don't want to abandon this project and I don't want to give myself reasons to do so, by working against my will on something I don't want to do. Also as you maybe have realised in the latest update, this world is much bigger than you thought, and if I wanna keep the quality of the story telling consistent and advance the plot, I can't be making a million optional scenes just for one fetish. In summary, I'm burned out with the zombie scenes and I don't wanna make more of those and potential impact the future of the story I want to tell you. I will revisit the current update again and properly remove the scenes once and for all, no "fan made" patches or mods. It's a really hard decision on my part considering how many of you voted "yes" in the poll to have them but I need to be honest with you and myself, and fix my mistakes. I say it very clearly now, don't expect more of those scenes in the future and you shouldn't financially support the game if you are here mainly because of them. I'm really sorry, but this decision is now final, I paused the pledges of this month as you saw and keep messaging me if you want a refund for the previous month. It's the least I can do. I apologise if you think your money was wasted in the past but I hope you at least enjoyed the story I made and poured all my heart into, and I'm gonna keep going at it as best as I can!
Have a good week and stay tuned.
Hot Tomato"
Ok, this post clarifies the Developer's point of view quite a bit, it would be nice if it was included in the first post of the thread so everyone could read it and understand why he really changed the game.I'm just going to leave this here so people can see the devs own words. Hell, it should be in the op this was his choice alone.
He really have should of just posted this instead of trying to justify it with the poll. I feel like a lot of this hate could have been avoided.I'm just going to leave this here so people can see the devs own words. Hell, it should be in the op this was his choice alone.
I did like the monster scenes as a gameover type of thing but it seems now like the minority and cry babys are the people who supported those things lol. I will keep supporting the game because I did like the main focus although sometimes I consider the mc to be very weak and pathetic.
I'm just going to leave this here so people can see the devs own words. Hell, it should be in the op this was his choice alone.
I suppose that if you support the game you will have already read it, but since it's also in the thread I will pass it to you, so that you can review it.From Patreon post:
"You must be registered to see the links
Hello everyone. I feel like I need to really be honest with you after what I said in the previous posts. When I look at the comments and reactions, I think I probably wasn't clear enough about the future of the game and about the main idea of the monster sex scenes. At first, these scenes were made to be an explanation for future plot related events in the game and I also wanted to shock the players and have more impactful consequences than just death, after getting caught by the zombies. I now realised that they were honestly a huge mistake on my part. The plot point I'm referring to, can be explained in many different ways that don't involve violent zombie sex, that could potentially get my game banned from this platform. The current scenes that didn't result in game over barely changed (the ones with Elisabeth) barely impacted the plot, only a few dialogue lines, there's barely any unique scenes to this route that follow how she is dealing with the situation. So yeah, I've concluded they don't add anything meaningful to the plot. Many of you though the game would focus on the zombie scenes when, in fact, they were gonna become even more rare the further we got into the story and are already a minority of the scenes. The thing is, I'm tired of them. They don't truly add anything to the plot I have planned and have been reduce to a mere fetish. You could say I now have some kind of toxic relationship with them. I could keep making them but I would be butchering my characters for no reason. For example, look at a future where the MC is strong enough to protect the ones he loves but because I need to do the update quota of zombie scenes, I end up making an unbelievable situation by that point if the story, where the characters behave nonsensically and the plot goes off the rails.
These scenes were never the core of my story, and from now on, forcing myself to make more of them to please you would just end up making the quality of the game worse. I don't want to abandon this project and I don't want to give myself reasons to do so, by working against my will on something I don't want to do. Also as you maybe have realised in the latest update, this world is much bigger than you thought, and if I wanna keep the quality of the story telling consistent and advance the plot, I can't be making a million optional scenes just for one fetish. In summary, I'm burned out with the zombie scenes and I don't wanna make more of those and potential impact the future of the story I want to tell you. I will revisit the current update again and properly remove the scenes once and for all, no "fan made" patches or mods. It's a really hard decision on my part considering how many of you voted "yes" in the poll to have them but I need to be honest with you and myself, and fix my mistakes. I say it very clearly now, don't expect more of those scenes in the future and you shouldn't financially support the game if you are here mainly because of them. I'm really sorry, but this decision is now final, I paused the pledges of this month as you saw and keep messaging me if you want a refund for the previous month. It's the least I can do. I apologise if you think your money was wasted in the past but I hope you at least enjoyed the story I made and poured all my heart into, and I'm gonna keep going at it as best as I can!
Have a good week and stay tuned.
Hot Tomato"