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You were right dev no ones talking about the story, still the zombie sex.
That is the thing dev wanted the story about the mc. I find it funny they blame the people who didnt like the rape for the devs choice but look what happened. Dev didnt want the game to be a monster rape game and to focus on the story and mc and now they are stuck.
Bad decision HT, bad decision. Now it lost its edge factor and the game is like every vanilla VN on here.
I don't have a problem against vanilla VNs but wow changing the whole game for some people whining? That's wild.
I won't be playing again, unless the decision is reversed.
I don't have a problem against vanilla VNs but wow changing the whole game for some people whining? That's wild.
I won't be playing again, unless the decision is reversed.
i agree with you 100%, but what really doesn't make sense and is stupid as all hell,
he took a poll from his paying patreons, and most of them said leave the zombie sex scenes in it,
but he decided he's going to leave it out for the paying ones, then have one else put the zombie scenes
back into it for here.
that to me says those who paying are the ones really getting the screw/rape job.
If they're smart they'll pull there pledge - I know I will.
People dont read it was not people whining as you say. All you looked at was removing monster rape but didnt read the rest. The dev didnt want the game to be a monster rape game and fear of rape ban on patreon . He wanted it to be about the story and mc and was tired of all the focus on the rape and look at the thread. You would think this is just a monster rape game. Dev said multiple times (the monster sex scenes never was the main focus of the game and this is the only thing the players seems to retain from the game.) Do you lot even care about the story or all you want is more monster rape and if so you are even more proving the devs point. PS. it is also funny people use the let the dev do what they want till it is something they dont want.
Lmao yes it was about the whining, it had nothing to do with Patreon. There are a ton of Patreon accounts that create content that focus on Monster-related things, and they're not banned.
You know what Patreon actually cares about? Incest. And guess what this game has? Incest.
And your right, it's not all about the monster scenes. That was the part that made the game special and added some flavor to it, it made the rest of the scenes that much better. Without it there's no tension, it's just another VN in a apocalypse setting.
OK yet again you didnt read what the dev said and how is death not tension you are proving the point you are more concerned about the rape than the story.
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Interesting, I read the last 5 pages several times, and patreon at the same time. And I do not quite agree with what I see, and what is really happening.
- At first it was about skirmishes between 2 camps, for or against monsters, because of this you will have to change everything, then it turns out that the patreons are against, but the vote and their comments say that everything suited them as it is. But the developer still says, okay, then I'll make 2 games. Logic is missing. One of which is officially mine on Patreon, and the other, like a fan, but also mine, just for f95. Say it right here, people don't understand. Or will you really give someone a fan outsource?))
"People don't talk about the plot or the characters, just the zombie scenes?" - So what are people talking about now, if their favorite game is turned upside down. You will not discuss what beautiful curtains you have in your apartment when it is on fire. You will try to save the "apartment". I think my comparison is clear. So obviously they are talking about what is happening now.
Here, in the last 10 pages, I can probably count on the fingers of one hand how many people have written about the plot and characters, before and after these changes. And these people were from both "camps", and did not find much desire in others to discuss something. Why would removing something from the game change that? The fact that people from one camp will leave?
Next, the developer ends up trying to play with the rape patreon rules, and is that the real reason for the change? It's funny that there are a lot of rape games here, and the Patreon doesn't care about them, they have a different fetish for bans, the same incest worries him much more. If so, then you should have told people here if you can't on Patreon. Why these riddles about an unknown force that can destroy everything. It's funny how people on Patreon don't understand what's going on either. You can read it yourself, especially since many of the patreons are sitting here.
Well, I don’t know who the winner is in the end, those who were against the monsters are definitely happy, their dream came true. I'm waiting for new fights about more scenes where the main characters fuck endlessly, or we want threesomes all day long; or will there be more lesbo scenes mom + sister. Simply by removing someone's fetish that does not interfere with the plot, and which, again, is funny, even complementary, you will not change anything, you just lost part of the audience, which, despite its fetishes, was not bad.
I honestly don’t really care about monsters and their absence, even I probably don’t care if they will or not, I even caught some kind of pleasure not to see all the scenes. Played like a regular game, trying to save the characters. But why it was necessary to take away from people what they like - I do not understand. I don't want them to lose it. Do they like zombie scenes? Okay, let's see, what's the problem? I can stop watching just by pressing one button. Did the plot suffer from this? No, it certainly didn't bother me, and I also enjoyed the game. People will now start writing about the plot, characters, etc. unrelated to sex? No, they haven't done this before, why start now?
For those who have read this boring post, you can at least try to discuss it, obviously this forum is not yet mature enough to discuss plots and characters. Just let's not be aggressive, I won't even read this. I could talk to people about the story in this game or the characters, but, as I said, no one needs it, except for the developer. Well mb a couple of people, okay.
P.s. For humanists separately, it turns out now that if your characters are eaten alive and they die in agony, is it better for you than they are fucked and they probably stay alive (or not, if this is a bad ending)? And if I don't like to watch someone being eaten alive, especially in a porn game, can I already complain about everyone who likes it? Just like you did.
P.s.s. Here's a discussion of the plot for an example, why did that special monster that attacked and bit the MC do it in the light of day? It seemed to me in the scene in the building that it was afraid of the light, and the sunlight is much brighter than a flashlight? It looks like a typical creature that lives in the dark and then attacks in the middle of the day? This is weird. Maybe this creature knew him when it was a human and remembered?
- At first it was about skirmishes between 2 camps, for or against monsters, because of this you will have to change everything, then it turns out that the patreons are against, but the vote and their comments say that everything suited them as it is. But the developer still says, okay, then I'll make 2 games. Logic is missing. One of which is officially mine on Patreon, and the other, like a fan, but also mine, just for f95. Say it right here, people don't understand. Or will you really give someone a fan outsource?))
"People don't talk about the plot or the characters, just the zombie scenes?" - So what are people talking about now, if their favorite game is turned upside down. You will not discuss what beautiful curtains you have in your apartment when it is on fire. You will try to save the "apartment". I think my comparison is clear. So obviously they are talking about what is happening now.
Here, in the last 10 pages, I can probably count on the fingers of one hand how many people have written about the plot and characters, before and after these changes. And these people were from both "camps", and did not find much desire in others to discuss something. Why would removing something from the game change that? The fact that people from one camp will leave?
Next, the developer ends up trying to play with the rape patreon rules, and is that the real reason for the change? It's funny that there are a lot of rape games here, and the Patreon doesn't care about them, they have a different fetish for bans, the same incest worries him much more. If so, then you should have told people here if you can't on Patreon. Why these riddles about an unknown force that can destroy everything. It's funny how people on Patreon don't understand what's going on either. You can read it yourself, especially since many of the patreons are sitting here.
Well, I don’t know who the winner is in the end, those who were against the monsters are definitely happy, their dream came true. I'm waiting for new fights about more scenes where the main characters fuck endlessly, or we want threesomes all day long; or will there be more lesbo scenes mom + sister. Simply by removing someone's fetish that does not interfere with the plot, and which, again, is funny, even complementary, you will not change anything, you just lost part of the audience, which, despite its fetishes, was not bad.
I honestly don’t really care about monsters and their absence, even I probably don’t care if they will or not, I even caught some kind of pleasure not to see all the scenes. Played like a regular game, trying to save the characters. But why it was necessary to take away from people what they like - I do not understand. I don't want them to lose it. Do they like zombie scenes? Okay, let's see, what's the problem? I can stop watching just by pressing one button. Did the plot suffer from this? No, it certainly didn't bother me, and I also enjoyed the game. People will now start writing about the plot, characters, etc. unrelated to sex? No, they haven't done this before, why start now?
For those who have read this boring post, you can at least try to discuss it, obviously this forum is not yet mature enough to discuss plots and characters. Just let's not be aggressive, I won't even read this. I could talk to people about the story in this game or the characters, but, as I said, no one needs it, except for the developer. Well mb a couple of people, okay.
P.s. For humanists separately, it turns out now that if your characters are eaten alive and they die in agony, is it better for you than they are fucked and they probably stay alive (or not, if this is a bad ending)? And if I don't like to watch someone being eaten alive, especially in a porn game, can I already complain about everyone who likes it? Just like you did.
P.s.s. Here's a discussion of the plot for an example, why did that special monster that attacked and bit the MC do it in the light of day? It seemed to me in the scene in the building that it was afraid of the light, and the sunlight is much brighter than a flashlight? It looks like a typical creature that lives in the dark and then attacks in the middle of the day? This is weird. Maybe this creature knew him when it was a human and remembered?
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I think the Dev said that the sex scenes with the zombies change to the girls being eaten by them... We could consider it a vore scene.
Oh man just what the hell happened while I was gone for 1 week.
For starters, hi, I have a close relationship with the dev and I proofread the game and I'm just as surprised as you are cause I wasn't informed early and barely get why this sudden change was made.
I don't wanna promise anything but I'm gonna talk with him and try to reason why this was a rushed decision. A bad one from the point of view of the supporters and the uniqueness of the game (rip fetish and more vanilla) but also good in terms of the future of the game, story development and popularity growth (more time to make actual story scenes that advance the plot, more people interested). But it's hard to say really.
Also would you guys be interested in having a discord to discuss all this stuff? Obviously would need some moderation cause damn it's gonna be a shit show otherwise with all the trolls.
For starters, hi, I have a close relationship with the dev and I proofread the game and I'm just as surprised as you are cause I wasn't informed early and barely get why this sudden change was made.
I don't wanna promise anything but I'm gonna talk with him and try to reason why this was a rushed decision. A bad one from the point of view of the supporters and the uniqueness of the game (rip fetish and more vanilla) but also good in terms of the future of the game, story development and popularity growth (more time to make actual story scenes that advance the plot, more people interested). But it's hard to say really.
Also would you guys be interested in having a discord to discuss all this stuff? Obviously would need some moderation cause damn it's gonna be a shit show otherwise with all the trolls.
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The game was fine as it was, I mean those scenes really shouldn't bother anyone.
Indeed, they are avoidable. But also if you think about it, what do they really add to the plot? Yeah it's a fetish for some people, but the dev's point wasn't to make this a fight between 2 sides depending if you like fucking ugly monsters raping your family or just straight up killing them changing nothing in the plot really. They are mostly a game over and when it wasn't not many dialogue lines change and unique scenes were not made yet for that path.
This game is memorable for the story scenes, the slow burn, character relationships and the mysterious vibe going on. The zombie stuff doesn't change a thing if you move it from rape to just getting eaten really.
The point of the dev is to make a good story focused on the main characters development and I kinda get why he is tired of this discussion and wants people to actually talk about the plot (that's why I'm suggesting a discord).
I kind of feel bad for the dev if this was not the intention. If you look at it the monster rape will most likely get less and less as the story goes and the mc grows. So it will get harder to put the characters believably in that situation without stalling growth. Also if the mc and girls are the focus when things start to heat up that is a lot of work and a lot more animations to have mc and girls , monsters and girls, and ntr. So if this was not meant to be a monster rape game and the dev got off track would it not be better to go with what dev intended or be stuck as a monster game and try and force scenes or go with story. Late game how will the monster rape fit without derailing the plot, how can the mc grow if the dev is forced to make the mc and girls do stupid shit to force what would be a game over. Look i get it if it was meant to be a rape game and dev changed the whole plot but looks more like the dev wants to get the story back on track and realized people came for the wrong thing.
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Personally, I like the game for what it tells and how it tells it. Also, I have a kind of fetish that consists in that I like to avoid rape scenes (of all kinds, sleep sex, hypnosis, etc.), so those scenes, although I didn't see them, were an extra. I don't know, maybe I'm weird for like this kind of things.
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Dude, the dev just fell into the "avoidable/side content" trap. 90% of the time, when a game has any type of avoidable content, at least one of the main girls gets "optionally" fucked before the MC even gets a handjob!
I'm sure that's not what the dev wanted, but in the end of the day this is an adult visual novel, so a lot of people will come here for that adult content, so of course the fan base the game will gather, at least at the early stages, are people who are here for the zombie gang rapes and they'll keep asking for more of that. More so when you're going for a "zero to hero" story and the MC starts off so annoyingly useless.
I'm gonna be honest here. I've only played the first release of the game and never touched it again, exactly because I couldn't stand the MC and it was painfully obvious that he would be the last one to get any serious action. The only reason I found out what's going on was because I saw it getting mentioned in another thread, so I don't really care what will happen with the zombie gang rapes. After reading the last couple of pages of this thread out of curiosity though... let's just say it was an "interesting" reading.
I actually felt sorry for the guy, but in all honesty at this point having some of the content in a different "fan made" patch won't change much (it will maybe get Patreon off his ass if he has issues with them), since it's gonna get around anyway and people will keep talking about it. It's a "damned if you do damned if you don't" type of situation, so he might as well just embrace it and accept he made a zombie gang rape game, even if that wasn't his original intention.
Look 6 full pages with just the word rape and you think it didnt get out of hand. I have a question do you think forcing the dev to make monster rape in the story they dont want to do will be healthy for the game. If the dev gets burned out and game gets abandoned are the scenes worth it. Look half the confusion is people not knowing what the game is and when the dev said it is one thing and half the people are trying to tell the dev no the game is this.... Ok the dev said it is not a monster rape game so what does the monster rape add that death wont. Even now you can see that the monster rape is not part of the story it ends in game over or acts like it didnt happen it was never going to be a path so why do people think it is the focus. Why is having more story and less non cannon rape a bad thing if as a lot of you say you are in it for the story.