WhitePhantom

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Terrific start - I'm intrigued and looking forward to more (although if I'm perfectly honest, at the end of v0.01 I am more interested in the story and unveiling the crime than I am in any of the women. I was interested in the cop... until the interrogation.)

I have a couple of minor issues:
1) How are the odds 2/1 [£2 wins £1] for England as the favorite and 19/1 [£19 wins £1] for Australia?
2) Why the hell is the lawyer letting the client directly respond to the police during interrogation? Shouldn't the lawyer be the one answering the police questions, and directing their client to say as little as possible?

I'm an American, so maybe the above makes sense to Brits.

For my 1st question, it doesn't affect the story/plot/etc (i hope), but it is just so bizarre.

For my 2nd question, I can stretch "suspension of disbelief" to account for the writer needing the audience to see the client's emotional responses. I just can't help wondering if that's another way the UK legal system is different from the US legal system, or if it is supposed to indicate something (like the lawyer isn't very good at his job, or changes in the in-game legal process due to TITAN initiative, etc.)
The first one's already been answered, it's just a different way we used fractions here.

The second one I think it comes down to the interview process being quite different here. Honestly, this is the one part of the game I really have to really pretty much on TV, Youtube and online blogs/government websites for what happens as I'm not getting arrested for research and you can't view Police interviews publicly. Everything I've seen and found however has had the Police asking the Defendant the questions directly, and I've looked up recordings of everything from driving offences to murderers/rapists in the UK to see what it was like. Surprisingly they normally don't even have the solicitor present, you have the right to legal advice here, but this can be given by a phone call if you don't have your own solicitor and then you're left to answer the questions on your own. I did try emailing my local Police as this was something I wasn't 100% sure about, but they will not offer individual advice for academic or research purposes sadly. There are some people offering variations to this, however these are normally from websites telling you not to say anything, which are often the same internet lawyers that say "just refuse to open the door" to people with warrants etc, and I know this doesn't work, so I'm not really sure the websites therefore are credible so I've stuck with the recordings, police blogs and dramatisation side of things.

The attitude of most British people is, and maybe this is a British mentality, but if the Police think you murdered somebody during the night, and you refuse to comment or won't tell them where you were during the night, then you're legally allowed to do that, but a jury is not going to look at you in a good way at all. At the end of the day, if the CPS decide there is enough evidence to go to trial, and the Prosecution tells the jury, look, we have evidence A,B,C and D, and their defence is "No Comment", 99% of juries will find the defendant guilty. You need to show that there is reasonable doubt to that evidence, and you can't do that by just not answering. If Lydia had of told him, "Yeah I did drive down the road he was murdered that night", the advice would have been, "don't tell them that unless they've got evidence to show it and you need to answer it", but everything in her story is non-incriminating so there's not a reason for her to hide anything at this point. Also all UK interviews are taped, so if something suddenly come up and the MC went "Don't answer that, no comment" again it's highly suspicious and if I was prosecuting I'd use that in court to say "look they're clearly hiding something here". I have no idea what American interviews are like, but that's my reasoning behind it.
 

L7Bear

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The second one I think it comes down to the interview process being quite different here. Honestly, this is the one part of the game I really have to really pretty much on TV, Youtube and online blogs/government websites for what happens as I'm not getting arrested for research and you can't view Police interviews publicly. Everything I've seen and found however has had the Police asking the Defendant the questions directly, and I've looked up recordings of everything from driving offences to murderers/rapists in the UK to see what it was like. Surprisingly they normally don't even have the solicitor present, you have the right to legal advice here, but this can be given by a phone call if you don't have your own solicitor and then you're left to answer the questions on your own. I did try emailing my local Police as this was something I wasn't 100% sure about, but they will not offer individual advice for academic or research purposes sadly. There are some people offering variations to this, however these are normally from websites telling you not to say anything, which are often the same internet lawyers that say "just refuse to open the door" to people with warrants etc, and I know this doesn't work, so I'm not really sure the websites therefore are credible so I've stuck with the recordings, police blogs and dramatisation side of things.

The attitude of most British people is, and maybe this is a British mentality, but if the Police think you murdered somebody during the night, and you refuse to comment or won't tell them where you were during the night, then you're legally allowed to do that, but a jury is not going to look at you in a good way at all. At the end of the day, if the CPS decide there is enough evidence to go to trial, and the Prosecution tells the jury, look, we have evidence A,B,C and D, and their defence is "No Comment", 99% of juries will find the defendant guilty. You need to show that there is reasonable doubt to that evidence, and you can't do that by just not answering. If Lydia had of told him, "Yeah I did drive down the road he was murdered that night", the advice would have been, "don't tell them that unless they've got evidence to show it and you need to answer it", but everything in her story is non-incriminating so there's not a reason for her to hide anything at this point. Also all UK interviews are taped, so if something suddenly come up and the MC went "Don't answer that, no comment" again it's highly suspicious and if I was prosecuting I'd use that in court to say "look they're clearly hiding something here". I have no idea what American interviews are like, but that's my reasoning behind it.
I am also not willing to try getting locked up to test the US legal system ;)

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derbertl

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it's not often that i thoroughly follow the story in a porn game - so well done, guess i was in a good coffee mood ^^ ok some options felt geniunly just for lols like asking lydia if she's available for a date in that kind of situation but ok, right now this was only a teaser / demo good luck
 

MadDogB

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Well not many games on here would I say this, but this one actually has me watching for the next update. I have not found any on here that is like what you are trying to do with the whole investigate and defend thing. Keep up the great work but get to work we waiting lol XD.
 

morphiospain

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So just me but it is a little small in size and does not look like much is there. also Shadows over Manston the other game is on hold so I will wait for some more of a story and content. The first few images look good but not sure if that is the mom or whoever on the right wow ok a little to much make-up, or is it a guy.... NNNooooooooo
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also would have like to some of the in court and jail scenes. Client attorney meeting ex....
I will pass for now. I would like to wait and see maybe in a couple updates. A little worried with another project on hold though.

good luck on the game!!!
 

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I don't know if you're joking or not, but there is absolutely no beastiality in this game for anybody wondering

It's just a girl taking a picture with her best friend's dog!
Suuuuuurre... everyone knows "best friend's dog" is a code word, just like "landlady." ;)
 
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LouWill

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So we're just gona give the dev a pass for not finishing SoM? We already know he (or she) can make good games. The question is whether or not they can finish them. SoM used to be one of my favorite games. Putting that on hold and starting a new game is a trend we're familiar with on f95 and it's not good for either party.
 

DonkeyFace

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I don't know if you're joking or not, but there is absolutely no beastiality in this game for anybody wondering

It's just a girl taking a picture with her best friend's dog!
Damn You! You just crushed my soul. Oh well. Game still looks interesting. Must try it.
 
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