bobofthebush

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The first one's already been answered, it's just a different way we used fractions here.

The second one I think it comes down to the interview process being quite different here. Honestly, this is the one part of the game I really have to really pretty much on TV, Youtube and online blogs/government websites for what happens as I'm not getting arrested for research and you can't view Police interviews publicly. Everything I've seen and found however has had the Police asking the Defendant the questions directly, and I've looked up recordings of everything from driving offences to murderers/rapists in the UK to see what it was like. Surprisingly they normally don't even have the solicitor present, you have the right to legal advice here, but this can be given by a phone call if you don't have your own solicitor and then you're left to answer the questions on your own. I did try emailing my local Police as this was something I wasn't 100% sure about, but they will not offer individual advice for academic or research purposes sadly. There are some people offering variations to this, however these are normally from websites telling you not to say anything, which are often the same internet lawyers that say "just refuse to open the door" to people with warrants etc, and I know this doesn't work, so I'm not really sure the websites therefore are credible so I've stuck with the recordings, police blogs and dramatisation side of things.

The attitude of most British people is, and maybe this is a British mentality, but if the Police think you murdered somebody during the night, and you refuse to comment or won't tell them where you were during the night, then you're legally allowed to do that, but a jury is not going to look at you in a good way at all. At the end of the day, if the CPS decide there is enough evidence to go to trial, and the Prosecution tells the jury, look, we have evidence A,B,C and D, and their defence is "No Comment", 99% of juries will find the defendant guilty. You need to show that there is reasonable doubt to that evidence, and you can't do that by just not answering. If Lydia had of told him, "Yeah I did drive down the road he was murdered that night", the advice would have been, "don't tell them that unless they've got evidence to show it and you need to answer it", but everything in her story is non-incriminating so there's not a reason for her to hide anything at this point. Also all UK interviews are taped, so if something suddenly come up and the MC went "Don't answer that, no comment" again it's highly suspicious and if I was prosecuting I'd use that in court to say "look they're clearly hiding something here". I have no idea what American interviews are like, but that's my reasoning behind it.

Normally I wouldn't bother pointing this out in a game or on this forum but, you seem to be striving for accuracy in the British Legal System. You also want to try and portray the role of the solicitor correctly as well so taking all of that into account.

1) The correct advice, in my opinion, would have been to go No Comment at the start of the interview. Pre-interview disclosure from the officer was practically non-existent with no reason to see why she was linked to the murder. A better path would have been to do a statement at the start confirming the disclosure given so far, that it was inadequate for you to undertake your role, and that you were now advising your client to answer no comment. You could then wait for the case to develop, have a further consultation with the client and advise properly on what to say or do in interview. Note that it is important that you now advise the client to answer no comment instead of confirming the advice previously given. If you put it in the past tense you risk losing legal privilege.

2) The magistrates cannot grant bail if someone is charged with murder. The power was removed by s115(1) of the Coroners and Justice Act 2009. She would appear in the Magistrates Court, who would send the case to the Crown Court under the s51 procedure. She won't be invited to enter a plea as it is indictable only, though after the hearing the solicitor will need to complete a form so the court have an idea as to whether or not a guilty plea is indicated. She will then have a hearing in the Crown Court within 7 days, though in my area normally 3 days, where she can enter a plea and apply for bail. The Magistrates should also confirm the custody time limit (how long you can be on remand prior to trial) which is 182 days for murder. They would need to give the date it should end and not just the time period.
 

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What I found interesting about the OP of this thread... "Defending Lydia Collier", I take it Lydia is the woman in the banner...
Yet, other than the banner image of her, there isn't a single image of her in the OP... All the preview images are of the blonde, it seems. LOL
 
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Mormont

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The UK is a lost cause. The queen should just burn it all down and rebuild. :whistle:
Well she does have that luxury of living of the taxpayer's money and never working a day in her life so she would be losing her benefits if she did that :LOL:

Interesting update why do I get the feeling that the husband has faked his death :unsure:
 

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Great game so far. It has the thrill of some of those excellent BBC crime series - with benefits. It looks like London: the pub, the tea, the Gherkin. But when did England start playing in orange? In your dreams!;)
 

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I've already addressed this on Patreon but not here, so I'll do it once, and only once here.

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And that giant piece of text is the last time I'll comment or respond to anything about stopping work for now on SoM.
Listen man, I'm not against your work or anything. I'm a fan. And I certainly am not discouraging anyone from playing your games. I was looking for some resolution on SoM and your post definitely clarifies my concerns. So thank you for responding. I look forward to DLC.
 
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I've already addressed this on Patreon but not here, so I'll do it once, and only once here.

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And that giant piece of text is the last time I'll comment or respond to anything about stopping work for now on SoM.
This is quite an impressive and honest explanation. If there was a textbook on how to become a Daz artist, this should be in it. Aspiring artists can learn from it (y). I have copied and saved it on my HDD, for later reference.
 
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I've already addressed this on Patreon but not here, so I'll do it once, and only once here.

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And that giant piece of text is the last time I'll comment or respond to anything about stopping work for now on SoM.
I would personally add that to the OP of both games, and tell everyone that if they can't manage to read it where it is, then they probably shouldn't be running around without their pants on... (meaning running about, clueless)
 

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I would personally add that to the OP of both games, and tell everyone that if they can't manage to read it where it is, then they probably shouldn't be running around without their pants on... (meaning running about, clueless)
THAT, is fighting like Don Quixote.

Just ignore this lazy asses.
 

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A mysterious crime, paramilitary troops, global politics, a lot of pretty women, a good amount of content for a 0.2 version, and finally - a guy named Bilbo :).
Very good start!
 

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Loooove this game so far. Just needs more content and MC needs to fuck the shit out of his secretary; or really any of them, he's really hard up. >.>;;. I know it was a dream, but i really hope she is a virgin. Would love to see a scene of breaking her hymen... <3

Will check back when this has more sexual content.
 

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WhitePhantom Love the game mate. You're doing us proud! I found a few mistakes so if you need a lift proofreading, hit me up.

Anyone getting arsey about the UK legal stuff needs to remember this is a game :)

Regardless of magistrates or crown courts, you really think a DS could get away with that shit in an interview being led by a DCI? Or that a DCI would be out of their office long enough to conduct an interview? Or that the City of London would have the expertise or experience required to investigate a fucking murder? The last one they had was Jack, and he's still on the lam!
When 3 of their own were killed in 1910, it became a joint Met & City operation (search Seige of Sidney Street for more info).

So yeah, it's fiction, a game, and a bloody good one too!

and fyi...
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That's what tea looks like - fuck milk & sugar - boiling water & premium teabag=bliss.
 
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Five things I learned playing DLC:

1. Sadiq Khan has done such a piss poor job that TITAN was created.
2. Stephanie is not "the one." She supports Spurs and they never last the distance...
3. Jason Statham is actually quotable.
4. Anyone joining the Met are fools when City of London Police are staffed exclusively by hot chicks
5. Oil in Antarctica? Good thing the Falklands are British!
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