VN Ren'Py Defending Lydia Collier [v0.17.0.2] [White Phantom Games]

[tittycharmer]

mod???

 

[hunter8013]

This Alpha Testing Team needs to be fired!!!

 

[HeyZen_]

Hello friends, does this game have any routes with ntr?

 

[Dr.TSoni]

Hello friends, does this game have any routes with ntr?

It depends on which one you mean.
Cheating on your partner: how many options do you want?
Being cheated on by your partner: nope.

 

[-CookieMonster666-]

Hello friends, does this game have any routes with ntr?

No, that's why the game doesn't have the netorare tag on it. And I get that sometimes games miss tags they should have, but with as semi-popular as this game is and how long it's been around, somebody would already have gotten that tag on this thread if it applied. There are various fetishes, including corruption-based mini-harem (depending on the route), cheating on your own LI, male domination, bimboification, scat, urination, etc. — but no NTR.

 

[MiltonPowers]

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Hello everybody!

I've now finally finished all of the coding changes I wanted to make for the computer and phone.

You can download this and test it out if you'd like, and let me know what you think!

This is the overall framework for the computer, there's still content to be inputted into it, but that doesn't require testing.

Eg if the news articles from Day 1 work, then Day 2 and Day 3 will also work as they use the exact same code as Day 1, they just pull the images and text from the Day 3 list rather than the Day 1 list.

This will completely replace all phone and computer interactions within the game in v.0.17.1, and should pretty much get rid of all the bugs, and also make everything a lot better as I have a ton of lore stuff, new pictures etc to pump in with it.

Let me know what you think, preferably in Discord if possible as everybody can type there regardless of what site you've got this from (incase your bug has already been reported), but here is fine too.

If everything is good it will just be a case of copy and pasting all the old content into the new code format, making Tiffany's new scene (she won the poll) and v.0.17.1 will be complete.

I've intentionally made this public as its relevatively boring to test and I don't want anybody subbing for this specifically thinking its an actual new BETA for the game, so hoping to just get as many people as possible.

There's nothing new in this in terms of scenes/content.

Thanks for all the new and continued support!

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[Br1t1shB33f]

Small question regarding the Ellie path.

I made the choice to ask her to wear 'something sexy' to work which started the corruption path.

Decided I didn't like the drastic character change and whe she asked if I liked her outfit I chose to go back to a more professional attire.

However she came in the next day mega slutty... I'm I missing something or is it bugged?

 

[Thermophob]

From Discord

Hello everybody!

A huge thanks to everybody that's helped with the bug-testing so far for the computer and phone, here's a list of bugs reported and fixed so if you do look through it going forwards, you don't need to worry about reporting them.

High-Lo Mini Game in the Slots Machine not launching.
Evidence Gallery windows staying open.
Player's name not appearing properly in screens.
Player not automatically standing on 21 in the Blackjack Mini Game.
Next and back buttons hard to see in the Our Moments Gallery.

Apart from those, it all seems to be working very well!

v.0.17.1 is turning out to be quite a major update.

Coming with the v.0.17.1 update:

All phone, computer and mission events in the game replaced with new ones, from the start to v.0.17's missing computer scene.

New optional in-game walkthrough added, again from the start up to v.0.17.

Moving the game engine from Ren'Py 7 to Ren'Py 8 - major engine update, the previous one was from 7.5 to 7.8, this is from 7.8 to 8.2 and changes from Python 2 to Python 3 behind the scenes, which a lot of the new code relies on.

New images made for nearly all character's Social Media posts and early investigations of Fleur.

New scene with Tiffany in Lydia's dungeon - as voted in the last poll.

New reports for missions, additional news stories focused on expanding on the game's plot. Anybody who enjoys the game's lore and story side, you are going to really enjoy the update, you're going to have a ton to read through!

5 New Achievements and accompanying unlockable images.

A new character and plot line, adding the number of work jobs from 2 to 3. Completely optional and with the chance for a fun scene at the end of it, this will be a short, fun third option that can be done regardless of what route your on and if you have a girlfriend or not (ahem if you're that kind of guy...)

A load of new audio and sounds!

The Negative:

Now I do have to forewarn everybody of something, this update is going to eviscerate saves and you will need to start fresh.

I apologise for this, I know it is very annoying, but unfortunately there's just no way not to do this. I am ripping out about 5 years of dodgy code built upon copy and pasting and full of learning mistakes and technical debt, it's 10,000s of lines of code removed, altered or added and I'm changing from Python 2 to Python 3 with the Ren'Py update, it is going to just bug your saves out completely if you try and use them.

I'm hoping to make this up to you by adding the new content in so its worth replaying it fresh, and the good news is that you will now have an in-game walkthrough, so you can enable that, follow the prompts in the game to get exactly back to where you were, and you'll be able to see the new missions and interactive stuff on the way.

It shouldn't affect replays and achievements, none of the achievement or gallery code is actually being changed by me this update, and none of the replays include anything with the computer or phone, but I won't be able to confirm that until I'm finished and actually able to test the whole game in the new Ren'Py engine, not parts of it.

When will it be out?

I'm not setting a date until all the code is done, and I don't know how long that will take as I've never done this amount of recoding before.

It will be in 2025, it won't be in October, the Alpha might be, but the full tested release just won't be done by then, if it is November or December I can't say yet as I don't know exactly how long this next bit will be, but it will be in 2025, even if I have to disrupt the computer science classes at my local university and convince them to code for beer for me to get it done.

I'm now starting to code everything into the main game, and when I'm done with that it will go into Alpha.

This is going to take a while, there are 865 menus and 920 different screens currently in Defending Lydia Collier, and over 50,000 lines of dialogue. I need to go into every single one of these menus, check what they do and add links to the new computer/phone or the in-game, and most of those screens are being replaced, so please continue being patient.

Considering this is now turning out to be a major update, I want to add some new content too.

I've got my new work side thing I've been working on, and a ton of other ideas.

As I'm now recoding from Day 1, and requiring restarts, I can add new scenes anywhen in the game, so I've got a lot of potential ideas that I'm going to let you guys pick.

I'm going to put up as another two polls, one for all supporters, one for premium supporters, and the winner of each will get made added whilst this is in Alpha testing.

It will mean with the new work task, the Tiffany scene, and these two new ones there will be four new bits of content added to play through and the update will be 500-750 renders long, in addition to all the new text based stuff, so just on content alone will be bigger than anything released in 2024 as I'm now back on track.

This will be in Alpha testing for a while, there are changes from Day 1 to the last update that need thoroughly looking into, so I'll make these additional scenes whilst this happens.

Thanks for all the new and continued support, and I'm very hopeful this update will turn the missions and screen stuff from "this is annoying" to "this is cool" for those of you that don't like them, and make them even better for those of you that do!

WP

 

[SomeoneX22]

Now I do have to forewarn everybody of something, this update is going to eviscerate saves and you will need to start fresh.

Well good thing that I waited to replay the game before 17.1, because I suspected that something like this would happen.
Bad thing is the game development is painfully slow.

This is from Steam page x_x

All that mini-games and computer fluff just wastes developer's limited resources, most people don't even want them.

 

[Raoddik]

All that mini-games and computer fluff just wastes developer's limited resources, most people don't even want them.

For me It's fun at the 1st playthrough (almost in every game), after that its start to get annoying when you do other routes and I always wish there was option to skip it with best result from the other playthough.

 

[vinodkij328]

good game

 

[WarriorSteel]

There's was a poll for 2 new scenes to be added.
The 2 scenes that won are:
Bimbofy Ellie - Go and see Dr Deleanu with Ellie, and whilst she still won't get work done until any epilogue, have a daydream scene about what she might look like.

Super Slutty Ellie in the Office - Add in an additional stage to Ellie's officewear changes.

 

[-CookieMonster666-]

There's was a poll for 2 new scenes to be added.
The 2 scenes that won are:
Bimbofy Ellie - Go and see Dr Deleanu with Ellie, and whilst she still won't get work done until any epilogue, have a daydream scene about what she might look like.

Super Slutty Ellie in the Office - Add in an additional stage to Ellie's officewear changes.

There's not enough variation in things to do with each girl, so we need to add even more? The corruption of the Wickes family isn't really all that far along, and we're going to derail that, focusing on Ellie's appearance and office behavior instead? That isn't even getting into the stuff on Vanessa's various paths, whether cucking Sofie or cheating on Vanessa with her daughter or her daughter's friends. Honestly, I love WhitePhantom but he has a serious problem with scope creep and feature bloat.

There's a real danger that, with the primary plot (and why Lydia was going to be put on trial in the first place) feeling like it's coming to a close, there will be a quick zip-up of all LI plots, in many cases leaving them feeling very rushed and unsatisfying. For some, like Steph, the LI's story could conclude decently soon and it would feel finished. With some of the paths I've mentioned, though, it feels like the only way to tie a bow on them would be to rush them... and thus ruin them.

And in the end, as much as I've really enjoyed this game — and I really have, honestly — I think another 3 releases of LI-focused continuations and prepping for conclusions could do it nicely. IMO, WP should just finish this already and get started on the revamp of Shadows over Manston. That game has been gathering dust on the shelf for several years now. A lot of this "fantasy fetish" stuff could easily be applied to that game, which is most likely going to have to be started practically from scratch, at least with the renders being from the late twenty-teens. Those models are at least over half a decade old at this point; I don't know how old they might have been when WP decided to include them in SoM.

 

[phoenixdown']

There's was a poll for 2 new scenes to be added.
The 2 scenes that won are:
Bimbofy Ellie - Go and see Dr Deleanu with Ellie, and whilst she still won't get work done until any epilogue, have a daydream scene about what she might look like.

Super Slutty Ellie in the Office - Add in an additional stage to Ellie's officewear changes.

Here we go again... and because of this new variable, at least three more months of work will be added to the final version... yeah

 

[WarriorSteel]

Here we go again... and because of this new variable, at least three more months of work will be added to the final version... yeah

There's no new variable. The secretary stuff is already happening and bimbo Ellie is just a dream.

 

[phoenixdown']

There's no new variable. The secretary stuff is already happening and bimbo Ellie is just a dream.

yes, the secretary stuff, but not directly the bimbofy path. It won't remain just a dream; WP wrote that, it happens in the epilogue. What I meant was that WP is just piling even more work on top of what it already has. i think Cookie described it quite well.

 

[WarriorSteel]

yes, the secretary stuff, but not directly the bimbofy path. It won't remain just a dream; WP wrote that, it happens in the epilogue. What I meant was that WP is just piling even more work on top of what it already has. i think Cookie described it quite well.

The epilogue will be fallout style. One render explaining what was the consequence of that choice. It will not be a full scene.

 

[SomeoneX22]

The epilogue will be fallout style. One render explaining what was the consequence of that choice. It will not be a full scene.

Steph should get image with shit on plate with text describing how she developed full on coprophilia fetish after everything she's been through

 

[Dr.TSoni]

Steph should get image with shit on plate with text describing how she developed full on coprophilia fetish after everything she's been through

 

[Rethinking]

For me It's fun at the 1st playthrough (almost in every game), after that its start to get annoying when you do other routes and I always wish there was option to skip it with best result from the other playthough.

Yes. Definetely this. This should be posted in every game thread. No game engine used for AVNs offers a gaming experience worth playing twice. Saying it's not worth playing twice might be a slight exaggeration, but the gameplay elements, aside from the story, definitely aren't fun enough to play over and over again.