Del.Mar

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Nah i mean when Mulan did posted it on his patron ?
The art book has existed since start of the game development. After each update, the art book was also updated. I am very surprised that the book was shared only now, after 3 years.
The developer's offense is not clear, any level/tier of support is always a risk of leakage of the game or other materials to pirated resources. Why suffer so much because of this?
 
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FavenXXX

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if i felt like the dev was serious about making this game i would join the patreon, but i jusdt don't feel like they are. their just milking people, my opinion.
I don't agree. The author tries to make the game better and tries to fill the game world with events and scenes. Yes, maybe he does not update so quickly, but the author tries as best he can by making new updates for the game. The author also listens to the opinion of his sponsors and what the sponsors say. And the fact that the author listens to his sponsors indicates that the author remains doing his game. Some other authors won't even listen to others. (But this does not apply to all authors ) So to say that the author is milking his sponsors for the sake of money is not the place. (That's just my opinion.)
 
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FavenXXX

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Now there is a story about a farm. But I hope that someday the author will return to the city and the plots in the city. ( For example: In the fitness club, GG meets a man who offers a job for GG and even gives his business card to GG says that he will think about it.) Another example: (In early versions of the game there was an event Where GG goes to shoot an advertisement (The invitation to this job is given by a guy in the Secret Room of the restor.) The guy stayed but there is no event now.) And there are a lot of such places in the city. I hope that someday the author will continue to develop events in the city. (p. s. I liked the events on the farm. Obenno with a new hypnosis that GG was even dumber and consented to obey) After such moments as on the farm, I want to see GG even dumber and irritated :love: ) After all, GG will become even more stupid, which means it should be even easier to be seduced by the tempting offer of men and women :love: ) Such a game like this has so much space and opportunities for the development of plots and scenes that I just want to discuss everything in a row and all possible events :) (I'm looking forward to all the updates:) )
 
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Arkady

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Done, I’ve changed my patreon rules and that's it. I will never do any artbooks.
I'm not so sure that kind of snap decision was your best option. It's punishing patrons that did not do the leaking, so it might well encourage snap decisions to no longer support your project, or at least not at the same level.
 

Liero

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I'm not so sure that kind of snap decision was your best option. It's punishing patrons that did not do the leaking, so it might well encourage snap decisions to no longer support your project, or at least not at the same level.
I posted some Patreon only posts here before.
I honestly felt bad doing it, so I stopped.

I shared em for a misguided attempt at helping raise some hope into this project, as a lot of people where cursing Mulan out for the lack of updates.

My snap decision was after having shared some patreon only posts was just to stop, as I felt it didn't fulfil it's purpose of helping the project itself.
 

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I posted some Patreon only posts here before.
I honestly felt bad doing it, so I stopped.

I shared em for a misguided attempt at helping raise some hope into this project, as a lot of people where cursing Mulan out for the lack of updates.

My snap decision was after having shared some patreon only posts was just to stop, as I felt it didn't fulfil it's purpose of helping the project itself.
I don't understand why you think pessimistically about the news. There is nothing wrong with sharing news about the game. By sharing the news, you make it clear that the author is alive and the game is also alive and continues to develop, and then new updates for the game continue to be created. Having also shared the news, there are good chances that one of the fans will decide to support the game both morally and financially. ((And if there is no news about a particular game for a long time, how will the fans know if this or that game is alive and whether they should become a sponsor of this or that game.)) + The news shows and tells how this or that author treats the creation of his own game. (( For example: Some authors release updates 1-2 times a year or news about the game comes out 1-2 times a year also, all news about a particular game tells how the author treats his sponsors, whether the author listens to the opinion of his sponsors or the author is not particularly interested in what the sponsors say to him)) ((All news shows the author's attitude both to his game and attitude to sponsors. And if a fan sees that the author is communicating and doing something for his sponsors, then everything is fine and one of the fans may want to become a sponsor of this or that author!!! Or on the turnover, knowing that this or that author is not interested in the opinion of his sponsors, the fan will not waste his money!!!))++ And another main plus of the news. Fans and sponsors discuss and share their opinion about the game-about updates or about errors, if there are any :) All these discussions are also a huge plus for the authors, since the author will know what and how fans and sponsors think about this or that in the game. So such comments like ((Oh, maybe they weren't worth sharing the news)) It's not clear. When creating a game and writing new updates, it is always good to know someone else's opinion, especially ((Sponsors and fans))
Not knowing the opinion will not give anything.
And to share good news about a good game is good.
 
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Liero

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I don't understand why you think pessimistically about the news. There is nothing wrong with sharing news about the game. By sharing the news, you make it clear that the author is alive and the game is also alive and continues to develop, and then new updates for the game continue to be created. Having also shared the news, there are good chances that one of the fans will decide to support the game both morally and financially. ((And if there is no news about a particular game for a long time, how will the fans know if this or that game is alive and whether they should become a sponsor of this or that game.)) + The news shows and tells how this or that author treats the creation of his own game. (( For example: Some authors release updates 1-2 times a year or news about the game comes out 1-2 times a year also, all news about a particular game tells how the author treats his sponsors, whether the author listens to the opinion of his sponsors or the author is not particularly interested in what the sponsors say to him)) ((All news shows the author's attitude both to his game and attitude to sponsors. And if a fan sees that the author is communicating and doing something for his sponsors, then everything is fine and one of the fans may want to become a sponsor of this or that author!!! Or on the turnover, knowing that this or that author is not interested in the opinion of his sponsors, the fan will not waste his money!!!))++ And another main plus of the news. Fans and sponsors discuss and share their opinion about the game-about updates or about errors, if there are any :) All these discussions are also a huge plus for the authors, since the author will know what and how fans and sponsors think about this or that in the game. So such comments like ((Oh, maybe they weren't worth sharing the news)) It's not clear. When creating a game and writing new updates, it is always good to know someone else's opinion, especially ((Sponsors and fans))
Not knowing the opinion will not give anything.
And to share good news about a good game is good.
While I agree that information about any given project you might be willing to support is good, the information I shared was meant as Patreon only.
It's up to Mulan to decide how to run that Patreon, and I sorta broke that trust by sharing Patreon only pictures and information for future releases.

My thought process on this at the moment is that if Mulan want more people to support, then he should make a free update on the side of the payment only ones just for information on how progress is going.

If I want to support Mulan, then I will do that through patreon. If people are asking about updates to it, I will answer in a abridged version of what the news is about, rather than linking the whole thing. If they want to know more, then they are welcome to toss in support on the lowest tier there.

It's not my responsibility to create hype or share everything that I am paying for myself.
 

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Not to mention the fact Mulan is already a dev who follows what his community feels about the game and communicates with it easily. He often passes on the Defenestration Discord, he takes inspiration from followers' suggestions, and is way more reactive and present than some other dev teams.
 
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While I agree that information about any given project you might be willing to support is good, the information I shared was meant as Patreon only.
It's up to Mulan to decide how to run that Patreon, and I sorta broke that trust by sharing Patreon only pictures and information for future releases.

My thought process on this at the moment is that if Mulan want more people to support, then he should make a free update on the side of the payment only ones just for information on how progress is going.

If I want to support Mulan, then I will do that through patreon. If people are asking about updates to it, I will answer in a abridged version of what the news is about, rather than linking the whole thing. If they want to know more, then they are welcome to toss in support on the lowest tier there.

It's not my responsibility to create hype or share everything that I am paying for myself.
I agree. No one says that someone would immediately post everything that the author has said over the past six months. I was saying that sometimes news for fans is the right thing to do. Than if there is no news about the game at all.Usually, If there is no news about games for a long time, a hype begins (Example: Oh, the game is closed) so at least sometimes some new news about the game is always good for everyone (And for the author for the game and the fans)
 

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Not to mention the fact Mulan is already a dev who follows what his community feels about the game and communicates with it easily. He often passes on the Defenestration Discord, he takes inspiration from followers' suggestions, and is way more reactive and present than some other dev teams.
I agree. Mulan is a good author. Mulan tries to listen to what they say (Sponsors and fans) because of the normal attitude of the author, the game Defenestration is even more interesting. (And again I agree. Some authors would learn from authors like Mulan. And maybe you could understand that you need to communicate with your own (sponsors and fans) and it is desirable to communicate in a human way :) )
 
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FavenXXX

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I wonder what the implementation of the kindergarten will look like:) ((It will be very interesting for me to see :) ))
And will there be an opportunity in future updates to get pregnant in another place besides the farm?!
And a few more things ((The game will have additional breast sizes for GG and new pumped lips :) . ))
Will the NPC react to the new type of GG?! ((At least in the form of dialogues )) ((Not necessarily in one update At least gradually ))
((But it would be nice if with a new appearance GG !!! GG Could for example: get a new job and get more money with a new appearance at all jobs ((+besides, GG after the farm should become even dumber. GG is brainwashed again, but already on the farm and they suggest that she ((Stupid and should not think about anything others will think for GG)) which means that GG should proctically agree with all partners and with all their ideas and GG will no longer have to hush up priestovaniya for GG priestovaniya should become something like praise :love: ))
((gg with a new look will become sexier and more depraved.
I hope gg and the mind will become even more submissive :love: ))
((Also, with the future new appearance of the GG, the reaction of the NPCs who already know the GG would be interesting.))
((At least for a start, the reaction in the dialogues. ))
And as for the Farm ((Will there be a development of all directions on the farm?!)) Such as a Cowshed, Brainwashing, a Pet and other opportunities that are available on the farm ? ))
 
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I liked the game it has potential, it has a good art style and the type of story, I just hope that the next update is ready
 
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The first time I though it was a typo, the second time I wondered what it meant... I got it when someone mentioned his name.
 
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