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The game also has a map with other places + there are inaccessible stations in the city. (this means that there are still many adventures waiting for GG.) Right ??? (I hope so. The more the better.)
 

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I have to say that I am currently following the development of 6 or 7 games. With the exception of one (which cannot be compared in artistic quality to Defenestration since it has a LOT less work but a very good story), most games update every 5 or 6 months. so ... it seems quite normal the times that Fresh Mulan takes to finish his updates considering that only he draws (and programs?) and has a collaborator in the part of the script. in that aspect this game is flawless on both aspects. It also adds humor that makes the journey fun, in addition to the fact that the characters are also interesting and have a development. i dont really understand the hate against the dev in this thread. actually this is one of the most toxic corners that i saw in this site
finally clarify that it is preferable to wait for quality content than to play any generic game that abounds in this place. there are not so many games that really have personality and propose something different. i know this personally bc i played a LOT of these games and only a few are this good.
 
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I have to say that I am currently following the development of 6 or 7 games. With the exception of one (which cannot be compared in artistic quality to Defenestration since it has a LOT less work but a very good story), most games update every 5 or 6 months. so ... it seems quite normal the times that Fresh Mulan takes to finish his updates considering that only he draws (and programs?) and has a collaborator in the part of the script. in that aspect this game is flawless on both aspects. It also adds humor that makes the journey fun, in addition to the fact that the characters are also interesting and have a development. i dont really understand the hate against the dev in this thread. actually this is one of the most toxic corners that i saw in this site
finally clarify that it is preferable to wait for quality content than to play any generic game that abounds in this place. there are not so many games that really have personality and propose something different. i know this personally bc i played a LOT of these games and only a few are this good.
Yeah, I completely agree with you. Mulan is reactive, takes notes of what his fans say and propose, is proactive and delivers quality work. I'm a long-time fan of Kingdom of Deception and even if the devs of this game never communicate and the work they deliver has recessed in quality, there is less outrage in their thread than here.
I wouldn't dare put Mulan on the same level as Akabur (though sometimes Mulan's work exudes quality just like Akabur's), but he/she is still doing one of the best porn games I've ever seen, leagues away from Noxian Nights, and that tells something.
 

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I have to say that I am currently following the development of 6 or 7 games. With the exception of one (which cannot be compared in artistic quality to Defenestration since it has a LOT less work but a very good story), most games update every 5 or 6 months. so ... it seems quite normal the times that Fresh Mulan takes to finish his updates considering that only he draws (and programs?) and has a collaborator in the part of the script. in that aspect this game is flawless on both aspects. It also adds humor that makes the journey fun, in addition to the fact that the characters are also interesting and have a development. i dont really understand the hate against the dev in this thread. actually this is one of the most toxic corners that i saw in this site
finally clarify that it is preferable to wait for quality content than to play any generic game that abounds in this place. there are not so many games that really have personality and propose something different. i know this personally bc i played a LOT of these games and only a few are this good.
I completely agree. Therefore, I am waiting with interest for an update for Defenestration.
(( The game is very interesting and interesting stylized, so I want the game to continue to develop and improve in all directions. ))

I wonder what will be done and how :) With each new update, it becomes more interesting to wait for new updates, since these are new game developments or extensions :)
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((p. s. GG will have an improved appearance such as ((Artificial breasts and large inflated lips)) I wonder if the author will be able to add a reaction to the GG over time for the NPCs, I also want the new appearance of the GG to have advantages and new scenes. A small example: ((With new big tits or artificial tits 1-2 and inflated lips + after the farm, GG should become even dumber, which means that GG should agree with everyone who wants to sleep or fuck GG and even maybe get a new job :) which GG did not agree to before because she was not 100% stupid ! But after brainwashing on the Farm, new opportunities should open up for GG. The same opportunities that GG did not have before . :) ((New dialogues, at least some reaction of the NPCs to the new appearance of the GG and the reaction to the fact that the GG has become even dumber or, simply put, that the GG is becoming even better as a Bimbo :). Example: What used to be Gg was not 100% stupid Bimbo ( Although in fact it was already stupid )! GG could be impudent and refuse any sexual compliments or sexual harassment. In the old appearance, GG could still think about something and decide for herself. But after the farm, if someone calls a Whore or Bimbo or something else, then the GG with a new pumped-up appearance should perceive all the sexual actions towards the GG as something good and be less bold and refuse less. If the GG will be stuck with Sex, then the GG should often agree. + As I used to say with a New appearance and the fact that GG is becoming even more Stupid, GG can offer a new job for example in a bardel or massage hotel or some other part-time job in the field of Sex workers, because a new appearance should contribute to the development and new consequences, such as a new job and new experience in the field of Sex Dolls :) )) GG after brainwashing on the farm should become even more stupid and more depraved.))
 

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Yes, he is doing Star Channel 34 (34 for the rule34 of course). You'll find the heroines of his old games: Jasmine, Hermione, even April from Mating Season, and Lara Croft from one of his first Flash games. There's suspicion he'll add Wonder Woman or Jane Shepard at some point, as he's done a game and a few sketches for the first and a comics for the second.
 

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I'm curious...
Did you look at the other pages and see how angry Mulan is with you?
Because, despite your high praise of him(her?), you have given no indication that you give a flying fuck what he thinks or cares about.
I've been following the game almost from the very beginning. I really like the game. And yes, I saw what they said about the fact that I posted an old development book 2018. I just didn't comment on it in order not to spoil the forum and not to interfere with the discussion of the game itself.

((Why do we need scandals and quarrels, it will all interfere with the forum and other users !!! Those who just came to discuss something about the game or ask something.))

(Briefly, I will answer ::: I didn't expect such a reaction to the old 2018 development book :( . I did not wish and do not wish anything bad not to the author of the game and not to his game. On the contrary, I would like the game to develop and learn so that the game becomes better and more interesting. EVERYTHING :) )
 
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i dont really understand the hate against the dev in this thread. actually this is one of the most toxic corners that i saw in this site
I said that a while back, and how tiresome it is to read all of the comments hating on him. I can only venture a guess that because the game is this level of quality, they feel the need to beat on Mulan that much harder in between updates.

(FavenXXX: Not like you could've messaged him and asked if it was okay or not before you went and did that.)
 
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I said that a while back, and how tiresome it is to read all of the comments hating on him. I can only venture a guess that because the game is this level of quality, they feel the need to beat on Mulan that much harder in between updates.

(FavenXXX: Not like you could've messaged him and asked if it was okay or not before you went and did that.)
Downloading a book with the idea that the book is a good example of what the author is trying to develop and improve his game.
 

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I said that a while back, and how tiresome it is to read all of the comments hating on him. I can only venture a guess that because the game is this level of quality, they feel the need to beat on Mulan that much harder in between updates.
Mostly because Mulan breaks his promises on every update. His usual "after this update we are going to add 1 new scene per month" got old after second art rework, not mentioning that his gym and farm updates supposed to take 6months each, not two years and unfinished. And next update? You think it will have completely new scene with new poses, new backgrounds? I doubt that, more likely we will just have pregnant belly added to existing ones.
 

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Mostly because Mulan breaks his promises on every update. His usual "after this update we are going to add 1 new scene per month" got old after second art rework, not mentioning that his gym and farm updates supposed to take 6months each, not two years and unfinished. And next update? You think it will have completely new scene with new poses, new backgrounds? I doubt that, more likely we will just have pregnant belly added to existing ones.
The author tries and in addition goes to a meeting with his sponsor. (The sponsors asked for more breast sizes for the GG the author makes. Someone wanted to have a pregnancy in the game the author tries to add and tries so that it would be interesting) (+ improvements of GG are bigger than the size of tits and big lips are pumped up :) + All these improvements are suitable for the world of the game and the history of the game this is the future as well as a new appearance is well suited to the fact that GG becomes a stupid BIB after each hypnosis :) Stupid Bimbo needs to look more suitable:) ) These are adding new parts to the game. And judging by the news that is already known. The author said that there will be plot sequels. ( Someone thinks that updates are coming out slowly, who does not think so, everyone has their own opinion) ( And once the sponsors pay and they interno develop and improve the game. So everything is fine. ( The reasoning is only based on the available news about the game) And who said that adding improvements for GG is bad, it's good for the turnover. ((Improvements are tied to events that will develop the history of the GG. Now GG is undergoing new personality improvements on the Farm + if all the improvements of GG will have consequences in non-farms, then it will be new adventures for GG. ((I hope that over time there will be a reaction of the NPCs to a new appearance and a new minus intelligence)) + Do not forget that GG is on a farm on a mission, which means that the story will still develop. (At least I hope so :) ) And this is a small part of what can be done. You can discuss a lot of things (What to do-add-improve and a lot of other things ) in a short discussion, not how not to discuss it, but so if you discuss all the details, it will be enough for a full-fledged book. ((I personally wonder what and how the author will do :) and how the game will develop ))
 

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The author tries and in addition goes to a meeting with his sponsor. (The sponsors asked for more breast sizes for the GG the author makes. Someone wanted to have a pregnancy in the game the author tries to add and tries so that it would be interesting) (+ improvements of GG are bigger than the size of tits and big lips are pumped up :) + All these improvements are suitable for the world of the game and the history of the game this is the future as well as a new appearance is well suited to the fact that GG becomes a stupid BIB after each hypnosis :) Stupid Bimbo needs to look more suitable:) ) These are adding new parts to the game. And judging by the news that is already known. The author said that there will be plot sequels. ( Someone thinks that updates are coming out slowly, who does not think so, everyone has their own opinion) ( And once the sponsors pay and they interno develop and improve the game. So everything is fine. ( The reasoning is only based on the available news about the game) And who said that adding improvements for GG is bad, it's good for the turnover. ((Improvements are tied to events that will develop the history of the GG. Now GG is undergoing new personality improvements on the Farm + if all the improvements of GG will have consequences in non-farms, then it will be new adventures for GG. ((I hope that over time there will be a reaction of the NPCs to a new appearance and a new minus intelligence)) + Do not forget that GG is on a farm on a mission, which means that the story will still develop. (At least I hope so :) ) And this is a small part of what can be done. You can discuss a lot of things (What to do-add-improve and a lot of other things ) in a short discussion, not how not to discuss it, but so if you discuss all the details, it will be enough for a full-fledged book. ((I personally wonder what and how the author will do :) and how the game will develop ))
>The author tries and in addition goes to a meeting with his sponsor.
Lol, mostly because there was no option "do some new shit, not 100500 new tit sizes no one is actually interested". Seriously, if you think that adding new clothes and sizes is a good development - go play illusion games, there are like around infinite amount of clothes, haircuts, adjustable tits\hips\noses\toes etc. People do not want just bigger something, they want it to have new scenes to "happen with GG" Not just the same scene with new tit sizes.
 
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>The author tries and in addition goes to a meeting with his sponsor.
Lol, mostly because there was no option "do some new shit, not 100500 new tit sizes no one is actually interested". Seriously, if you think that adding new clothes and sizes is a good development - go play illusion games, there are like around infinite amount of clothes, haircuts, adjustable tits\hips\noses\toes etc. People do not want just bigger something, they want it to have new scenes to "happen with GG" Not just the same scene with new tit sizes.
In other words - noone will mind some visual expansions, but not at the price of the lack of new story content...
 

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In other words - noone will mind some visual expansions, but not at the price of the lack of new story content...
Yeah, thats what i mean. Bigger boobs need not only be drawn, but it is necessary to make a scene were they grow and its better be completely unique scene, not redraw from beginning or clinic.
 
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Mostly because Mulan breaks his promises on every update. His usual "after this update we are going to add 1 new scene per month" got old after second art rework, not mentioning that his gym and farm updates supposed to take 6months each, not two years and unfinished. And next update? You think it will have completely new scene with new poses, new backgrounds? I doubt that, more likely we will just have pregnant belly added to existing ones.
>The author tries and in addition goes to a meeting with his sponsor.
Lol, mostly because there was no option "do some new shit, not 100500 new tit sizes no one is actually interested". Seriously, if you think that adding new clothes and sizes is a good development - go play illusion games, there are like around infinite amount of clothes, haircuts, adjustable tits\hips\noses\toes etc. People do not want just bigger something, they want it to have new scenes to "happen with GG" Not just the same scene with new tit sizes.
The author tries hard and in addition goes to a meeting with his sponsor.
((Sponsors asked for improvements to GG the author makes and tries to make it interesting))
(+ New GG Improvements such as larger Boobs or artificially Tits and more nakachany lips for GG - All of these improvements fit for the world of the game (It's the future so improved appearance GG fits the game.) and for the history of the game uluchsheniya just good - ( GG washed with hypnosis brain what would he become stupid obedient doll for sex or a stupid Bimbo.
Inside GG is getting dumber and dumber, so the new appearance is well suited to the fact that GG is becoming stupid both inside and outside, GG should correspond to its entire statos :) ) !
The game needs all the details.
And as for pregnancy, this also suits the game.
After all, in fact, the GG is a super secret agent with an assistant of the form (artificial intelligence) in the interior of the GG
((Judging by the dialogues in the game and especially on the farm, it becomes clear that (Artificial intelligence in the GG) is a kind of helper and protection from undesirable consequences (Such as pregnancy) When GG goes to the farm to the church and in the Cowshed where Hypnosis is suggested that GG is a (Breeding cow), it becomes clear that (AI) protects both GG and her body from such consequences as pregnancy.
But the farm decided to break the restrictions that would make a cow out of GG, and for this it is necessary that GG could get pregnant.))

+ Perhaps the Farm has a plan to make its agent from GG. Stupid who will obey all orders :) -- (But these are my assumptions and guesses :) ))

( It would make a good adventure. The farm could uparavlyat GG and scout other people's secrets through GG + since GG becomes obedient, the farm could also earn extra money on GG, for example: GG could work in a secret underground. Or working for an underground gang in the form of a whore
( This is a common example :) you can even improve such moments :) ) )
So improvements with pregnancy are an addition to the world and the plot of the game.

+ The author said something about the fact that there will be a hospital or a place where GG will be able to visit his children.
(Whether something related to this topic will be improved in the future. Is unknown.
But it's interesting to see how such little things can be made and implemented in the game.)
( As mini events or mini scenes, or maybe as a good addition to the game :) )

(((Example of future development: after GG has become pregnant and visits to visit her children.
You can make events where the GG meets with friends or vroch who look after the children of the GG.
And I inform you that all services for the upbringing and care of children are planned.
And you need to Pay for child care or for occupied places and time spent ( After all, this is a harsh world ) )))

And then the adventure awaits GG :)

If GG can't pay.
Then you can make it so that GG would pay with her body for services
+ if the GG is already with a pumped body.
For GG, they could offer a new proposal, for example: for GG to work as a Whore.
And yet ++ Since GG is pumped and already Bimbo, then it would be possible to send GG to serve someone from the VIP
Or any other suggestions :) (And there are quite a few such proposals, especially for BIMBO :) )

(++ Also with a new appearance and a new minus intelligence for GG, you can do a job in an intimate salon-a massage parlor - Or do a task where GG needs to pretend to be a stupid WHORE and since GG already likes her, then GG may want to work even after the task + In addition, you need to pay both for the network and for your children.)
(((THIS IS JUST MY EXAMPLE AND REASONING ABOUT IT !!! )))

((These are small and simple examples and suggestions.
There are a lot of options for such a world.))

I wonder what the author will do and how :)

And judging by the news that is already known.
The author said that along with the improvements there will be plot sequels.
+ Don't forget that GG is on a farm on a mission, which means that the story will develop.
(At least, I hope so :) )

((And as for (Oh, updates could come out more often ) Someone thinks that updates are coming out slowly, who does not think so, everyone has their own opinion.
And this is normal, everyone should have their own opinion.
Why do you need to find fault with specific words:) ))
(Sponsors, said their opinion, the author listened and decided to add an extension or improvement.
If an improvement or expansion does not interfere with the game and the game world, but rather complements or expands the game world, then this is good for both the Game and the player :) )

((I hope that over time there will be a reaction of the NPC to the new appearance and a new minus of intelligence)) (I have already briefly expressed examples several times.)
(NPCs must respond to the new upgraded appearance of the GG !!! For example: When GG was molested in the gym or when GG was in the role of an offecite, GG was called what she didn't like but she didn't have a choice, that's why she did everything :) But after pumping and especially with Artificial tits 2 and pumped up big lips + after the farm GG become even more Bimbo than it was before. So: GG can now even agree to some even more explicit actions. :)
And in the secret department of the restaurant. GG in general could earn even more.
GG remembers his adventure in the toilet of a secret restaurant :) ha-ha )

Everything I'm talking about features and examples is only a small part ( and a simple part )of what can be done and developed.

You can discuss a lot of things and different things, but Trying to briefly discuss (what to do-add-improve and much more ) in a short discussion, it is not possible to discuss everything at once :)
If you try to discuss all possible points and details, then such a discussion will be enough for a full-fledged book:)

((p. s-I personally wonder what and how the author will do and how the game will develop ))
 

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...... thread hasn't changed I see... the only difference is that now people are being more verbose while making the same arguments. Can we stop repeating ourselves over and over? because my notifications for this site are almost always another hot take on this game. guess what. most people have made up their minds already about the game. can we move on and stop trying to convert each other to the true faith of loving/hating the game or its creator?
 

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The author tries hard and in addition goes to a meeting with his sponsor.
((Sponsors asked for improvements to GG the author makes and tries to make it interesting))
(+ New GG Improvements such as larger Boobs or artificially Tits and more nakachany lips for GG - All of these improvements fit for the world of the game (It's the future so improved appearance GG fits the game.) and for the history of the game uluchsheniya just good - ( GG washed with hypnosis brain what would he become stupid obedient doll for sex or a stupid Bimbo.
Inside GG is getting dumber and dumber, so the new appearance is well suited to the fact that GG is becoming stupid both inside and outside, GG should correspond to its entire statos :) ) !
The game needs all the details.
And as for pregnancy, this also suits the game.
After all, in fact, the GG is a super secret agent with an assistant of the form (artificial intelligence) in the interior of the GG
((Judging by the dialogues in the game and especially on the farm, it becomes clear that (Artificial intelligence in the GG) is a kind of helper and protection from undesirable consequences (Such as pregnancy) When GG goes to the farm to the church and in the Cowshed where Hypnosis is suggested that GG is a (Breeding cow), it becomes clear that (AI) protects both GG and her body from such consequences as pregnancy.
But the farm decided to break the restrictions that would make a cow out of GG, and for this it is necessary that GG could get pregnant.))

+ Perhaps the Farm has a plan to make its agent from GG. Stupid who will obey all orders :) -- (But these are my assumptions and guesses :) ))

( It would make a good adventure. The farm could uparavlyat GG and scout other people's secrets through GG + since GG becomes obedient, the farm could also earn extra money on GG, for example: GG could work in a secret underground. Or working for an underground gang in the form of a whore
( This is a common example :) you can even improve such moments :) ) )
So improvements with pregnancy are an addition to the world and the plot of the game.

+ The author said something about the fact that there will be a hospital or a place where GG will be able to visit his children.
(Whether something related to this topic will be improved in the future. Is unknown.
But it's interesting to see how such little things can be made and implemented in the game.)
( As mini events or mini scenes, or maybe as a good addition to the game :) )

(((Example of future development: after GG has become pregnant and visits to visit her children.
You can make events where the GG meets with friends or vroch who look after the children of the GG.
And I inform you that all services for the upbringing and care of children are planned.
And you need to Pay for child care or for occupied places and time spent ( After all, this is a harsh world ) )))

And then the adventure awaits GG :)

If GG can't pay.
Then you can make it so that GG would pay with her body for services
+ if the GG is already with a pumped body.
For GG, they could offer a new proposal, for example: for GG to work as a Whore.
And yet ++ Since GG is pumped and already Bimbo, then it would be possible to send GG to serve someone from the VIP
Or any other suggestions :) (And there are quite a few such proposals, especially for BIMBO :) )

(++ Also with a new appearance and a new minus intelligence for GG, you can do a job in an intimate salon-a massage parlor - Or do a task where GG needs to pretend to be a stupid WHORE and since GG already likes her, then GG may want to work even after the task + In addition, you need to pay both for the network and for your children.)
(((THIS IS JUST MY EXAMPLE AND REASONING ABOUT IT !!! )))

((These are small and simple examples and suggestions.
There are a lot of options for such a world.))

I wonder what the author will do and how :)

And judging by the news that is already known.
The author said that along with the improvements there will be plot sequels.
+ Don't forget that GG is on a farm on a mission, which means that the story will develop.
(At least, I hope so :) )

((And as for (Oh, updates could come out more often ) Someone thinks that updates are coming out slowly, who does not think so, everyone has their own opinion.
And this is normal, everyone should have their own opinion.
Why do you need to find fault with specific words:) ))
(Sponsors, said their opinion, the author listened and decided to add an extension or improvement.
If an improvement or expansion does not interfere with the game and the game world, but rather complements or expands the game world, then this is good for both the Game and the player :) )

((I hope that over time there will be a reaction of the NPC to the new appearance and a new minus of intelligence)) (I have already briefly expressed examples several times.)
(NPCs must respond to the new upgraded appearance of the GG !!! For example: When GG was molested in the gym or when GG was in the role of an offecite, GG was called what she didn't like but she didn't have a choice, that's why she did everything :) But after pumping and especially with Artificial tits 2 and pumped up big lips + after the farm GG become even more Bimbo than it was before. So: GG can now even agree to some even more explicit actions. :)
And in the secret department of the restaurant. GG in general could earn even more.
GG remembers his adventure in the toilet of a secret restaurant :) ha-ha )

Everything I'm talking about features and examples is only a small part ( and a simple part )of what can be done and developed.

You can discuss a lot of things and different things, but Trying to briefly discuss (what to do-add-improve and much more ) in a short discussion, it is not possible to discuss everything at once :)
If you try to discuss all possible points and details, then such a discussion will be enough for a full-fledged book:)

((p. s-I personally wonder what and how the author will do and how the game will develop ))
TLDR.
Seriously. You think that Mulan will miraculously finish farm in less then a year more? Its cute that you have ton of ideas what Mulan might add, I had them too when the game was less then year old, but most likely he will just keep adding piercings, bodyparts and haircuts, calling it "new scenes" and milking some newbies on his patreon and this page.
 

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...... thread hasn't changed I see... the only difference is that now people are being more verbose while making the same arguments. Can we stop repeating ourselves over and over? because my notifications for this site are almost always another hot take on this game. guess what. most people have made up their minds already about the game. can we move on and stop trying to convert each other to the true faith of loving/hating the game or its creator?
In a sense its the only way to get us out of shithole patreon dropped adult gaming community in. Guys like Cookie, Sad Crab, SR7, MR.C and many others for years are sitting on half developed games having pretty nice passive income. And pretty much every developer just want to be like them, hit the goldmine and sit on it.
 
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