ieatbab1e5

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You joke, but at least one game posted here was like that. In the plot twist reveal at the end, MC was basically high, hallucinating, and basically jerked himself to death. I mean quite literally, he died. And then that dev somehow made a popular game that had none of that.
at least he went out having a good time lol

saying its all in le head is so often used as a cheap cop out to avoid thinking of actual coherent scenarios, that are able to be reasonably connected to each other
i actually do rly like the concept of hallucinations and loss of reality :( but not if theyre exclusively there to throw a huge "go fuck yourself" at the reader, at the very end

btw what game :0 im curious now lol
 

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at least he went out having a good time lol

saying its all in le head is so often used as a cheap cop out to avoid thinking of actual coherent scenarios, that are able to be reasonably connected to each other
i actually do rly like the concept of hallucinations and loss of reality :( but not if theyre exclusively there to throw a huge "go fuck yourself" at the reader, at the very end

btw what game :0 im curious now lol
Well lets be real here though. The game is fiction and you dont really have to justify fiction unless you want to. Why is all this happening? Who gives a shit? Its happening regardless. Sometimes trying to justify or explain something just ruins it and the best course of action is to just roll with things. Getting too involved trying to rationalize things just gets you stuck in the weeds and doesnt really do anything constructive. The game isnt trying to be realistic or explain any of the underlying rationale of its setting and it is better off for it.
 

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Well lets be real here though. The game is fiction and you dont really have to justify fiction unless you want to. Why is all this happening? Who gives a shit? Its happening regardless. Sometimes trying to justify or explain something just ruins it and the best course of action is to just roll with things. Getting too involved trying to rationalize things just gets you stuck in the weeds and doesnt really do anything constructive. The game isnt trying to be realistic or explain any of the underlying rationale of its setting and it is better off for it.
In other words:


Which is required, to some degree, of the reader/audience of pretty much any form of entertainment.
 

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at least he went out having a good time lol

saying its all in le head is so often used as a cheap cop out to avoid thinking of actual coherent scenarios, that are able to be reasonably connected to each other
i actually do rly like the concept of hallucinations and loss of reality :( but not if theyre exclusively there to throw a huge "go fuck yourself" at the reader, at the very end

btw what game :0 im curious now lol
For everyone else, don't click if you don't want spoilers.
I'm talking about Succumate, from the same dev that made Summer Memories.
Through the whole game, you're exposed to news that men are dying mysteriously and their bodies look like dried husks. The MC suspects that succubi are the reason, since the one living with him wears him out to the point that he genuinely fears for his life, but the ending shows that there were in fact no succubi. He had been living alone. The very same drug he was using to keep up with fucking the succubus was the very drug that made him hallucinate in the first place. There's several points in the story where you have to make deductions to progress the plot, where the MC concludes it's not his succubus that's offing the other men, it's another one basically committing serial sex-murders. He ends up defeating and taming her, and the succubi and him fuck all night, which in reality was just him nutting nonstop, leading to his own death and becoming a dried husk. There were some one-off non-succubi sex scenes, but we don't know if the MC was actually fucking anyone at all the whole game, because he was basically never lucid throughout.
 
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Jesh. I came here to ask about the conflicts in the reverse rape and extended combat options and instead got caught in a design debate. But since I'm here...

Well lets be real here though. The game is fiction and you dont really have to justify fiction unless you want to. Why is all this happening? Who gives a shit? Its happening regardless. Sometimes trying to justify or explain something just ruins it and the best course of action is to just roll with things. Getting too involved trying to rationalize things just gets you stuck in the weeds and doesnt really do anything constructive. The game isnt trying to be realistic or explain any of the underlying rationale of its setting and it is better off for it.
I'm so close to agreeing with you here, if the same couldn't be said for reality. Reality is an incoherent mess full of curios that often lead nowhere. There's no story, no end goal, and no inherent reason to continue interacting with it besides our instincts stopping us from self destructing. People are inclined to make sense of it anyway, whether through spirituality, studying the mechanics of the world, or just making shit up. Reality only maters because we're a part of it.

The argument (far as I was concerned) was that hallucinations undermine what little sense can be found, fiction or not. Once you're aware of it, it's a constant reminder that nothing can be trusted. At that point, why bother with anything? You aren't part of it anyway. You have no control. Just go gentle into that good night.
 

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I'm so close to agreeing with you here, if the same couldn't be said for reality. Reality is an incoherent mess full of curios that often lead nowhere. There's no story, no end goal, and no inherent reason to continue interacting with it besides our instincts stopping us from self destructing. People are inclined to make sense of it anyway, whether through spirituality, studying the mechanics of the world, or just making shit up. Reality only maters because we're a part of it.

The argument (far as I was concerned) was that hallucinations undermine what little sense can be found, fiction or not. Once you're aware of it, it's a constant reminder that nothing can be trusted. At that point, why bother with anything? You aren't part of it anyway. You have no control. Just go gentle into that good night.
Not everything needs or warrants some kind of philosophical breakdown. A piece of media can just be a piece of media thats meant to be consumed and discarded. Someone could write a the thousand page dissertation about how the game is all an allegory by the author to express his deep seeded peanut butter sexual fetish but that doesnt mean that the argument actually means anything says anything constructive or even actually exists in the content. There is just no reason that every single piece of media to ever exist has to say something meaningful or be deconstructed so far to find meaning.

If someone paints a picture of a dildo is it some kind of statement about the state of humanity and the evils it perpetrates to seek pleasure? Is it an expression of the artists view on society? A heartfelt love story toward the gay community? A scathing rebuttal of the sins of homosexuality? Is it just a picture of a dildo that people are getting pretentious about?

Sure someone can argue that anything made in a society is influenced by society and philosophical discussions about the nature of man springs up from every piece of media created but that doesnt really mean that any of those topics are actually brought up and tackled by the material in question. There is no great discussion about humanity in this game. Stuff happens not because of reality or peoples perception of it. Stuff happens because degenerates want to see someone fuck dogs so they put it ingame. What happens in reality or what is realistic or discussions around it in the real world were not are not and should not be taken into account. Its fantasy. Having a well defined bold line to differentiate between the two is absolutely vital because to be quite honest bringing up real life situations and discussions in a game with themes like this one is a very slippery slope. Trying to justify the game and ground it in reality just makes it less fantasy at best and leads to people blurring the lines between it and reality at worst.
 
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Well lets be real here though. The game is fiction and you dont really have to justify fiction unless you want to. Why is all this happening? Who gives a shit? Its happening regardless. Sometimes trying to justify or explain something just ruins it and the best course of action is to just roll with things. Getting too involved trying to rationalize things just gets you stuck in the weeds and doesnt really do anything constructive. The game isnt trying to be realistic or explain any of the underlying rationale of its setting and it is better off for it.
oh absolutely
not everything has meaning, and neither should it need to

i can completely understand the angle of taking things at face value, wanting to enjoy a piece of media for everything it's laid out on the surface, and being content with that
but to me, personally, the things that arent said, are much more interesting
of course, this can very easily lead to getting entrenched too deeply in the vagueness of it all, so much so that certain boundaries are being pushed that were never meant to, without even realising it

is it possible that im ascribing a deeper significance to it, than it actually possesses, which maybe wasnt even intended to be there in the first place? ye def, lol
is that constructive? idk, but does it need to be ;3c
at base level, i do agree that trying to eXpLaIn EvErYtHiNg, especially in a world as ambigious as DoLs, is stupid lol it lives through its ambiguity afterall

but it's still fun to me, bc my dumb ape brain is just loves looking for connections lol (this is a quirky, fun fact about me uwu)
 

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Degrees of Lewdity 0.5.0.2 is up on my blog, adding content for the great hawk, and making them fertile. It also overhauls the weather and temperature systems, and implements a system for dynamically rendering sky, weather, and location art.

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The weather feature seems neat, I may play this again in the next days when I get free time. Just curious, does it interact with physical and/or lewd activities? For a random example, if you sleep with the wolves in the cave, does it warm up? Same for swimming in the lake, does it do the opposite?
 

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saying its all in le head is so often used as a cheap cop out to avoid thinking of actual coherent scenarios, that are able to be reasonably connected to each other
The difference between this and a dumb reddit ~it was all le coma dream~ reading is that the hallucinatory aspects don't imply a lack of reality, it's more along the lines of Lovecraftian "you're peering too far beyond the veil" happenings. That keeps a sense of coherency intact even when the reality of certain aspects are called into question.
 
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So what are the odds Avery is the head of some biotech/bioengineering company and we can get perma changes like perma wolf/cow/etc. male impregnation, increase fertility, etc? in the future? Thinking out loud here, plus I am tired of wearing a cowbell to bed. Seems so inconvient.
 
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So what are the odds Avery is the head of some biotech/bioengineering company and we can get perma changes like perma wolf/cow/etc. male impregnation, increase fertility, etc? in the future? Thinking out loud here, plus I am tired of wearing a cowbell to bed. Seems so inconvient.
Since they're in business, I've sometimes wondered if they were involved with that office we can work at. CEO, probably.
 

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I think I read a while back that you could set something to have alex spawn as a futanari, anyone know how to do that?

Figured it out, it's a mod, and an old one at that unfortunately.
 
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