Kiyumi

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In the last five surveys or so, in the question about what is the main aspect that players like, dating romantic interests is on top, you can check it out yourself. However, all the recent updates has been rape or new non-related mechanics like pregnancy.

Improving the side characters seems like the main objective from the surveys view, however, these has been neglected.


Definitely, not only romantic interests are under-develop, also a lot of mechanics and places. The brothel, the underground brothel, the police station, the dance school, all of these places have a lot of potential, not only new events but also storylines. However, the most neglected place of all is the school, with the never-ending grind for popularity with bullshit events and no compensation.

Also, I would love to see the combat/sex improve, with more dialogues and different personalities for different NPCs. For example, if you pick a college student who is virgin at the bar, they call you a bitch mid sex, or when you pick a married wo/man, they start beating you even if they where the ones nervous about it. More consistent random dialogues for random characters would be very good.
There's only *been* two surveys to my knowledge in the past 3 years and the one before the one after the pregnancy update, pregnancy was the most requested feature by a mile. So I am not sure why you're implying the devs aren't doing what they want - it's silly, it's well known Vrelnir doesn't even like pregnancy and needed others to write it since it's not their thing.

Additionally, what are you even referring to? Have there even been updates in the past few years without content updates to side characters and/or LIs? There was a huge swath of Kylar and Whitney expansions in the past few updates, then there was the Robin-suffering stuff, Sirris' sex shop (which was one of the last updates before pregnancy), the black wolf scenes, the kennel, the new Alex stuff, just last update there were content additions and new options to the brothel.


You're free to want more of a certain type of content and ask for that. But you're representing the devs as if they're just ignoring what the players want and doing something else and should start working on things they... have been working on practically every update. They've always been following the surveys and I think it's really unfair to them to vocalize your own desires this way. All the content you mention was a shell of what it is now a few years ago. Sure, it could use more. But they are adding more every update and the biggest recent feature - which they're still fleshing out, was consistently the most requested feature for years... They're just doing a bit of all the major requests, opposed to zeroing in solely on what you'd like.


Honestly, I am not sure why people are so eager to get critical here. I follow a lot of games, none of them are getting new content as quickly as DoL is and none cater to such a wide field of interests and ways to play. It can be better, of course, and recent updates have been slower - but those updates were also incredibly large, much requested features. Believing some of the people in this topic, you'd almost think the game earns an abandoned tag for pushing out what, 20+ scenes, 3 new areas, new hairstyles, new sprites for various things, a hugely requested mechanic (and fully featured - still lacking story content true, but mechanically it's more complete than just about anything else I've seen), new skills, new traits and a new transformation, amongst other things, over multiple months.

We've not had an update in a few months, anyone can check the git and see they're still adding scenes and features every week.
 
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We've not had an update in a few months, anyone can check the git and see they're still adding scenes and features every week.
your post was too long to read so I skimmed it and noticed this sentence, as someone who plays this game once every few months this sentence really surprised me as I personally could not find any noticeable new content in the past year+ or so I have since I discovered the game as for github, I don't even know where I would find that is there a link somewhere?

or maybe its just the fact that every scene is repetitive and copy-paste feeling that I haven't noticed any new content
 
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There's only *been* two surveys to my knowledge in the past 3 years and the one before the one after the pregnancy update, pregnancy was the most requested feature by a mile. So I am not sure why you're implying the devs aren't doing what they want - it's silly, it's well known Vrelnir doesn't even like pregnancy and needed others to write it since it's not their thing.
There has been three surveys here, multiple in the lolicon site where Vrelnir posted the game before.

your post was too long to read so I skimmed it and noticed this sentence, as someone who plays this game once every few months this sentence really surprised me as I personally could not find any noticeable new content in the past year+ or so I have since I discovered the game as for github, I don't even know where I would find that is there a link somewhere?

or maybe its just the fact that every scene is repetitive and copy-paste feeling that I haven't noticed any new content
There is new content but sometimes is behind late game stuff or is not that relevant for certain people but it is for others. However, I agree that it feels stale, specially with the porn content, the updates that we receive for it has been mostly GUI and some new actions, new spicy dialogues has been non existing.

As I mention before, it sucks that if you are faithful with Kylar you can't access the manor without being kidnap and also being faithful to Whitney while being bully as always.

Asking for the game to be better in a reasonable way and more consistent can't be a bad thing. But as people mention before, I will love to see the exiting content being expanded, there has been like a year without updates for the swimming teacher who has been one of the main winners in the survey.
 
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One big downside of this game is the grind can be pretty severe so stuff added to the lategame will take a long time to find.
 

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your post was too long to read so I skimmed it and noticed this sentence, as someone who plays this game once every few months this sentence really surprised me as I personally could not find any noticeable new content in the past year+ or so I have since I discovered the game as for github, I don't even know where I would find that is there a link somewhere?

or maybe its just the fact that every scene is repetitive and copy-paste feeling that I haven't noticed any new content
In the last year?! Well, the BIG update is that pregnancy & babies is now a thing. Several new Museum Objects have been added, along with a new explorable area (Catacombs), new non-explorable areas (Flats, City Hall, Chalet), new funding/bribing city improvements, new partying teens on the beach & in the moor, new events when stripping, new Brothel shows, a new weekly Brothel "party rental", new Quests (the most lore-important involving the Mayor & the new Hookah Parlour), a new "Soft End" (Mines), new Hypnosis, new Jobs (Housekeeper, Temp worker) the Ivory Wraith achieved NPC status with new events (but still isn't a love interest, though that stat now exists), a new Fox transformation, multiple new Outfits, and tons of "fiddly-bits".

So, yeah, not much changed between version 3.1 to 4.1. ;)
 
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Kiyumi

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There has been three surveys here, multiple in the lolicon site where Vrelnir posted the game before.


There is new content but sometimes is behind late game stuff or is not that relevant for certain people but it is for others. However, I agree that it feels stale, specially with the porn content, the updates that we receive for it has been mostly GUI and some new actions, new spicy dialogues has been non existing.

As I mention before, it sucks that if you are faithful with Kylar you can't access the manor without being kidnap and also being faithful to Whitney while being bully as always.

Asking for the game to be better in a reasonable way and more consistent can't be a bad thing. But as people mention before, I will love to see the exiting content being expanded, there has been like a year without updates for the swimming teacher who has been one of the main winners in the survey.
I've no idea which surveys you refer to - Vrelnir has linked, exactly, 2, from what I can tell, both here and on their blogs. Are you referring to regular players posting a poll or whatever as a survey?

If that's the case, it's completely irrelevant - people who click certain tags like said tags.... The official surveys they've done - the ones on Vrel's blog, the reddit, this site and everywhere else, pregnancy was the most requested feature, 78% of the players were excited about pregnancy being added (and 8.7% completely unexcited), 70% of the players turned the feature on (some find i a chore, apparently) and 81% are happy with how the update turned out.

But now that that's out of the way, expanding the game content and improving it will probably be the focus. There's no other big requested features (besides letting the PC go dominant, which goes against the theme of the game so I doubt they will) and it was quite important to get this out of the way as it's been years since it was the most requested feature and as they complained about many times, the issue with it was that lots and lots of scenes have to be adjusted to remain fitting - they didn't want a janky implementation (like many games have...) where pregnant PC's drink and nobody comments, nor is it a collection of sex scenes the way fenoxo's games are where they can just kind of make a few pregnancy scenes and nobody else reacts.

They did a lot of work adjusting a *lot* of old content and now that the mechanics are all there, they can make new content keeping them in mind and continue to revise old content they come across. Had they done an incomplete implementation (e.g. excluding fertility, condoms, morning after pills, actual childbirth etc at first, as many games do), they would have had to revise everything *again* if it turned out people wanted those features...

I think the fact even leg-locking is in is kind of wild, I've never seen that option in a game before.
 

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I have the cheat but require local server to work since tampering with the main html is so much hassle or i can just make raw code for you to paste it in console if you want.

Download

note : the cheat isnt gonna active right away, most of the chase you must move the other area first for it to take effect.
Cheat update, now its not required to install local server, all you need is run the start.bat to run the game with cheat.

Download

my character :
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didnt know you can get 2 transformation, i just sucking cow milker and then i become cat demon.

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Fizel

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Cheat update, now its not required to install local server, all you need is run the start.bat to run the game with cheat.

Download

my character :
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didnt know you can get 2 transformation, i just sucking cow milker and then i become cat demon.
Yeah you can have one animal and one 'divine' transformation at a time.
 
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I've no idea which surveys you refer to - Vrelnir has linked, exactly, 2, from what I can tell, both here and on their blogs. Are you referring to regular players posting a poll or whatever as a survey?

If that's the case, it's completely irrelevant.
Made by the people who work on the game and have been forgotten and push over the bus.
DoL started as a community project and remains as such, but not by the same creators, just the same director.
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X Death

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Cheat update, now its not required to install local server, all you need is run the start.bat to run the game with cheat.

Download
Another cheat update also maybe last since i dont know what to add more, if you have any suggestion, you can reach out to me. as for the update is :
1. UI update
2. farm manager(not all)
3. parasite infection/removal

Download - cheat + server : 31MB, Cheat only : 48KB
 

ladguru

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Made by the people who work on the game and have been forgotten and push over the bus.
DoL started as a community project and remains as such, but not by the same creators, just the same director.
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And who exactly hindered those people from carrying on with their stuff? The sources are all in git. If I wanted to make a DoL fork, it would take me only a few keystrokes.

And why would anyone invest so much effort, to push someone over the bus? [sic!]
 
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And who exactly hindered those people from carrying on with their stuff? The sources are all in git. If I wanted to make a DoL fork, it would take me only a few keystrokes.

And why would anyone invest so much effort, to push someone over the bus? [sic!]
The thing is, the site where most of the original devs work on DoL is very lolicon and gray, so, I can't even share the link here. That also could give you an idea of why Vrelnir no longer post there and remove lolicon from the game.

And that is why I say "Push over the bus", because a lot of people took the removal of lolicon personal.
By knowing the game from F95Zone and the Blogspot, you have half the knowledge about the development of the game. There is even a cancelled PC port.
 

ladguru

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The thing is, the site where most of the original devs work on DoL is very lolicon and gray, so, I can't even share the link here. That also could give you an idea of why Vrelnir no longer post there and remove lolicon from the game.

And that is why I say "Push over the bus", because a lot of people took the removal of lolicon personal.
By knowing the game from F95Zone and the Blogspot, you have half the knowledge about the development of the game. There is even a cancelled PC port.
You can't really blame Vrel for not wanting serious trouble IRL for nothing, do you?
Before you said, all these people contributed to the game.
Why did they stop? The sources are there. They just could have continued working on their version. They could have done this at any time. You can do today or tomorrow.
If there is such a high demand as you say, it should be no problem to find enough people.
 
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You can't really blame Vrel for not wanting serious trouble IRL for nothing, do you?
That is why I say:
The thing is, the site where most of the original devs work on DoL is very lolicon and gray, so, I can't even share the link here.
That is totally understandable, but is also the reason why some people who made a ton of contribution to the game drop the development, just out of spite. Now, I'm not going to say that removing lolicon was wrong, I kinda don't care (Although now some dialogues and plot-points are really dumb) but there was people who really care about it.

I'm not justifying contributors who drop the game, I'm saying that we lost the PC port, the HD sprites, the Beees mod, the CGs, among other contributions that now are lost and live only in screenshots.
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Now, my complain through the thread is not the removal of sholicon but the lack of direction, which for me was due to the change on command, the game is definitely not dead, just all over the place.
 

Fizel

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We've gone past this doomer phase before, let's not f-ing repeat this again please.
WITH THE EXACT F-ING SAME PIC TOO AT THAT.


FFS man.
I have a question since I only found the same semi-recently, after the big switch. WTF? It was going to be a much bigger thing with art and CGs? Kind of sad the pixel art style shown there was never realized.
 

Raf-Raf

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I have a question since I only found the same semi-recently, after the big switch. WTF? It was going to be a much bigger thing with art and CGs? Kind of sad the pixel art style shown there was never realized.
It think it's the supposed BEEESSS mod author dropping said mod 'cause the lolisho are getting out. :KEK:
But I'm not really sure if it really is them.
Still the best graphics mod imo.

Yes, the game started that way and vrel has every right to change it to being safe for legal reasons...

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