rhoghadessa

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You need to kiss her while purging to progress her route.
I see, so that means you'd need to successfully pin her down during the purging then? I guess I should stop acting like a bird-dog for higher chances, maybe.

On an unrelated note, with a 'I don't know if this is due to DoLP or not' disclaimer, when you are in the Moor and you choose to Search Nearby via 'Fly' (from 'Strong Wings' trait via Bird TF and being taught to fly), although it says 'Fly (0:01)', it actually takes 4 minutes to do. Choosing to 'Fly (0:01)' deeper into the Moor or towards the Coast still takes 1 minute. Is this a vanilla bug, or a DoLP bug where normally you can't 'Fly' to search the same spot but it's being allowed in DoLP but instead of making it take 1 minute, they accidentally made it take '5-1 minutes', aka 4 minutes?
 

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I see, so that means you'd need to successfully pin her down during the purging then? I guess I should stop acting like a bird-dog for higher chances, maybe.

On an unrelated note, with a 'I don't know if this is due to DoLP or not' disclaimer, when you are in the Moor and you choose to Search Nearby via 'Fly' (from 'Strong Wings' trait via Bird TF and being taught to fly), although it says 'Fly (0:01)', it actually takes 4 minutes to do. Choosing to 'Fly (0:01)' deeper into the Moor or towards the Coast still takes 1 minute. Is this a vanilla bug, or a DoLP bug where normally you can't 'Fly' to search the same spot but it's being allowed in DoLP but instead of making it take 1 minute, they accidentally made it take '5-1 minutes', aka 4 minutes?
Yup, you only get one chance per purging tho, so save scum to brute force it. Also, even if you are able to pin her down you need high affection to actually be able to kiss her , so grind those outfits beforehand. The more you purge the lower the will check gets but str/physique check is still at "very hard".

I only play Vanilla and there Flying at moor takes (0:02) .
 

rhoghadessa

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Yup, you only get one chance per purging tho, so save scum to brute force it. Also, even if you are able to pin her down you need high affection to actually be able to kiss her , so grind those outfits beforehand. The more you purge the lower the will check gets but str/physique check is still at "very hard".
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Avery wants me to make hamburgers. Okay, easy. Check the ingredients. The only ingredient missing is onion. Go to obvious places that should sell onion: supermarket and market. They don't sell onion. They don't sell any vegetables whatsoever.
Check the wiki. The only way to find onions is in the fcking moor and I need tending at C.
All of this make total sense...
What is wrong with you, dev?
 
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Avery wants me to make hamburgers. Okay, easy. Check the ingredients. The only ingredient missing is onion. Go to obvious places that should sell onion: supermarket and market. They don't sell onion. They don't sell any vegetables whatsoever.
Check the wiki. The only way to find onions is in the fcking moor and I need tending at C.
All of this make total sense...
What is wrong with you, dev?
Avery's need are many, and some of them is really hard to fulfill.

If you don't have any ingredients required, just give them a random food. They will complain, but you can complain back and tell them that you don't have the ingredients. Point out the missing thing, and they will fill the fridge with that ingredients the very next day.
 
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Avery's need are many, and some of them is really hard to fulfill.

If you don't have any ingredients required, just give them a random food. They will complain, but you can complain back and tell them that you don't have the ingredients. Point out the missing thing, and they will fill the fridge with that ingredients the very next day.
Really? Is this what you should be saying about a situation where a town doesn't sell vegetables? Are you human?
 
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rhoghadessa

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The Supermarket is just weird as it currently is, missing a lot of things one would consider to be 'normal' to have, with stock quantities dangerously low that is only restocked once a week. Probably doesn't help that the only real farms near town is Alex's Farm, who was growing nothing but potatoes before the PC came along, with whatever eggs, milk and 'cream' being sold not reaching the Supermarket, and Remy's Estate/Farm, which only grows lots of strange purple plants and otherwise has a 'side farm' that produces a lot of 'milk' and 'cream' but who knows where they go to (maybe sold locally to the Manors in the outskirts?). Alex's parents/siblings' farm(s) are mentioned once in a while but they are presumably too far away to be considered 'locally sourced' or something.

A lot of vegetables are locked behind growing them yourself, some of the seeds from the RNG Markets (one of the stalls sells 6 different seeds, but you can only buy one seed at a time). You have to forage the Moor vegetables at least once to get the seeds to grow them, but you can forage them again if you don't want to grow them yourself. No one knows how to grow mushrooms and have to resort to foraging them in the Forest or the Woodlands.

Most fruits are also locked behind either foraging for it in the Forest (Apples, Pears, Lemons), having access to Alex's Farm and having upgraded the Woodlands (Plum, Strawberries, Peaches) or buying them from the RNG Markets (Bananas, up to 24 at a time per interaction).

Many ingredients like flour and butter are so rare that even the local school has cooking classes that teaches students how to make them themselves. Even honey requires a brave person to go out into the deep forests to snatch them directly off beehives maintained giant honey bees.

I do hope that eventually the Supermarket will have a sort of daily rotating stock of a sort of different stuff available for sale, kind of like how the Soup Kitchen has a few different ingredients changes daily, but charge more for it. But it'd only make sense if one could make cooking stuff a viable way of making money without taking so much time - even if it means the ability to buy 'cooking furniture' from the Furniture Shop to make cooking faster.
 

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A lot of the argument around the market is kind of silly from a pure gameplay setup though. Like ya in reality its weird to go to a grocery store and it not have onions but this is a video game where you fuck horses. Reality has nothing to do with anything. There is a conversation to be had about the scarcity of cooking ingredients but the argument that any normal store would have onions isnt an argument that holds any water in a universe like the one the game is set in.

How many ingredients are available in any area along with their cost and quantity are gameplay balance questions and not anything else. If cooking is to be considered something that you are supposed to be able to do without hassle then ya the scarcity is a problem but if the mechanic is supposed to be a somewhat difficult problem you have to work toward then onions being hard to get makes perfect sense.
 
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No one knows how to grow mushrooms and have to resort to foraging them in the Forest or the Woodlands.
Well, apart from a very few species, most of the edible mushrooms are foraged in RL. Ceps, chanterelles, truffles, suillus, milk caps, oyster mushrooms--all these need to be hunted in the woods. Or bought from dirty old mushroom hunters standing on the side of the road, somewhere in deep, deep Pomerania.
 

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A lot of the argument around the market is kind of silly from a pure gameplay setup though. Like ya in reality its weird to go to a grocery store and it not have onions but this is a video game where you fuck horses. Reality has nothing to do with anything.
I just wanted to come here and say that the above underlined event can indeed happen in reality therefore we it is still wrong for the supermarket to not have onions.
Now to be serious i say even in gameplay sceniarios it would make more sense if the ingredient we are searching for would be actually rare so it doesnt break immersion that its not in the supermarket.

For example if we stay at a hamburger recipe it doesnt make sense that the supermarket doesnt have onions, letucce, tomato or something of that kind BUT lets say that the recipe needs black sesame seeds which is instantly a much more rare find especially in a city the size this game portrays.

If its purely gameplay choice then the ingredients that are intented to be rare need to actually make sense to be rare.
 

MRN64

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It is also possible in reality that you could spontaneously combust and burn into ashes without warning so i guess we need a running tracker ingame to keep tabs on that? No because the simple act of something existing or not is not somehow justification for whatever to exist in a literal fantasy universe. If they decided today that onions dont exist in DoL then it doesnt fucking matter if you can find them at your local grocer because if you cant tell reality actually has no actual influence on fantasy or game mechanics besides what the people making it want it to have. You pointing at two things that exist in reality isnt some kind of gotcha is just delusion. My only point i was making is that the game is obviously fantasy so to try to shoe horn in the logic of actaul reality is really stupid.
 

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In the game there are feats to be earned, hence so item are meant to be tougher to acquire and has nothing to do with reality.
Getting tending to C and collecting onions from the moor isnt tough, but it does takes some time and this is bad for people who doesnt have the patient to go grind.

But since Avery will provide the onions when you tell him so, the problem get solved, so no big deal.
The game aims to punish your PC with lewd stuff, hence jobs takes hard work to be done, if you want to avoid punishment, either play hard or cheat.

All that said, I do wish for onions and other ordinary ingredients to be found in the supermarket, so I can cook whatever food, anytime anywhere for convenient sake.
 
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