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VN Ren'Py Completed Demon King Domination: Deluxe Edition [Belgerum]

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Daxter250

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unfade the fonts. simply right click on them and find the appropiate option for it.
faded means you have them installed but you dont use it.

you can permanently use japanese non unicode. no need to change it back. everything else will still work like a charm. in fact i didnt change it back since years ;D.


if its win rar, try using 7zip? i know, dumb question but who knows. maybe it works.
 
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Reapergod36

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I'm sorry to hear that you found the game lacking. =( If you have any feedback on how we can improve in the future, please let us know.
First of all, I would tell more of the story (if it is important to the context) through the combat dialogue. Instead of having a bunch of repeat dialog the player wishes to skip as it gets repetitive, have a purpose to the character's banter. I found myself starting out reading the beginning section, and then just skipping as I wanted to get onto something more interesting. As for the plot, try not to tell a porno story. Losing is a trap, losing later on is a trap, winning was conquest. A situation where the person playing cannot lose has no purpose. You're feeding into a certain crowd I know, the ones who want harems with every girl lusting after dick with no effort. Well, if you want people to take your story seriously; then one of the ways to do so is give failure meaning. Have the demon lose to her weakest state and have her dom him would be an easy one. If your crowd does not desire that outcome, they will work and develop a desire to beat this adversary. They will be stimulated simply by having perverse imagery in front of them more often than not. But they'll now be mentally stimulated by this drive for competition, for conquest, in a more driving manner than "I want to see the sex scene." It will be more of, "I want to see this bitch humiliated." "I want to see my enemies driven before me and hear the lamentations of their women." is a quote from Conan The Barbarian, that a lot of people love. Why? because everyone has had an adversary that they hated and anyone can envision all those who serve as obstacles to their rise to power crushed.

As for gameplay mechanics, first of all I would provide tool tips for what each action does specifically. If you want to not have to provide a walkthrough for the game, try giving the player the info he needs without spoon feeding it. Hell, you can even leave hints in the dialog and banter that goes on between the demon and the knight. The repetitive dialog really kills the immersion of the fight, but I talked about fixing that earlier so I'll just note that here.

As for sex scenes, variety is the spice of life and kinks are easy for variety. As stated earlier, femdom, could have taken place if the player lost to the earliest stage. If you truly want to have a scene where you trap the knight by letting her beat you, then have that be an option even labeled, "Let her beat you." As something only available in Stage 1 so that it's launched by selecting said option. Otherwise you leave the player not really striving for success, when failure is rewarded with success. The animations are fairly lacking, no so much in art style but in a lack of committing to a concept. If you have a demon and want to have a demon, show the demon. If you want the demon not to be too unattractive, give him more human features with minor features like horns and sharp teeth and large red body as you seemed to go for. The floating dick is almost insulting to the audience because it appeals unequivocally accepting to their tastes and shows no respect for them. As you are too afraid to show your story you wish to tell and show what the fight builds up to. The showing of the body would also allow for more in-depth scenes than, in-out-in-out cum-and-done. You can have gripping, slapping, spanking, groping; instead since you have only a floating dick, all we have is different positions to which the knight seems to be only slightly perturbed to be in (when not mind-controlled mind you.)

Anyways, I hope this info helps you. I gave it some effort and could go into further detail but I need to get to bed.
 
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ponyguy

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unfade the fonts. simply right click on them and find the appropiate option for it.
faded means you have them installed but you dont use it.

you can permanently use japanese non unicode. no need to change it back. everything else will still work like a charm. in fact i didnt change it back since years ;D.


if its win rar, try using 7zip? i know, dumb question but who knows. maybe it works.
We've been over this. I can't leave my system in Japanese. It DOES affect several programs, changing various letters into kanji. Programs my father uses a lot more often than I have to extract or play a Japanese game. Switching back and forth every damn time we need to use one of those programs would be annoying as hell.

I believe 7zip has the same issues. Not sure. I'd rather not have to install another extraction program though. If I have to do that I might as well just settle for Bandzip. I remember using it for a while and it had settings for extracting files in various languages. But otherwise it was an ugly and confusing program.
 

Belgerum

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Anyways, I hope this info helps you. I gave it some effort and could go into further detail but I need to get to bed.
Thanks so much for your feedback! We really appreciate it!

You make a lot of good points, and I can't make excuses for them. This was the first adult game we've made, and we had a somewhat small timeframe for a game jam, so I'm not surprised that there are flaws in it, and that some of the design choice weren't the best. I'm still proud of what we created, but you have every right to dislike it for the reasons you've stated.

I'll definitely try to learn from this experience and address your concerns in the next game we make. Hopefully we can meet your expectations better next time.
 

rangaru

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Very short, but fun game. Obviously it would be better if it was bigger, but at least it's complete. So congratulations for devs.
Personally I would criticise theme of the game, because it's obviously copy of Japanease trope of Maou. It feels just sad that people of european descent cannot use native culture more. MC could be the dragon which can assume human form or some shit. Western culture it's gold mine, only thing what is neccesary would be little bit of creativity.
 

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We've been over this. I can't leave my system in Japanese. It DOES affect several programs, changing various letters into kanji. Programs my father uses a lot more often than I have to extract or play a Japanese game. Switching back and forth every damn time we need to use one of those programs would be annoying as hell.

I believe 7zip has the same issues. Not sure. I'd rather not have to install another extraction program though. If I have to do that I might as well just settle for Bandzip. I remember using it for a while and it had settings for extracting files in various languages. But otherwise it was an ugly and confusing program.
you can alternatively update your winrar. i had to update 7zip too once. it is quite neccessary doing it sometimes ^^.
other than that there is no real help. you can try windows applocale. i think i posted a download somewhere on f95. it's a neat program where you can change the nonunicode for a specific program without having to change it on the pc. you can't however unpack stuff with it, so the unpacking shit will still occur.

weird that your father has so many issues when it's on japanese non unicode. my father also used the pc frequently with his programs and doesn't give a fuck about some kanjis xD. everything still works as it should. as i said, it doesn't affect the system at all. but it's the way it is. if your old man doesn't want that you just have to accept it unfortunately :/ and i can understand that.
maybe an upgrade to win 10 in the future might help you out, but remember... it's the kraken windows 10 ^^.
 
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ponyguy

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you can alternatively update your winrar. i had to update 7zip too once. it is quite neccessary doing it sometimes ^^.
other than that there is no real help. you can try windows applocale. i think i posted a download somewhere on f95. it's a neat program where you can change the nonunicode for a specific program without having to change it on the pc. you can't however unpack stuff with it, so the unpacking shit will still occur.

weird that your father has so many issues when it's on japanese non unicode. my father also used the pc frequently with his programs and doesn't give a fuck about some kanjis XD. everything still works as it should. as i said, it doesn't affect the system at all. but it's the way it is. if your old man doesn't want that you just have to accept it unfortunately :/ and i can understand that.
maybe an upgrade to win 10 in the future might help you out, but remember... it's the kraken windows 10 ^^.
I already have updated WinRAR.
And I already have a locale emulating program. It's a must have if I want to play Japanese H-games. And, as I've mentioned before, I'm well aware it doesn't work with unpacking.

Programs like CDLabelPrint, ConvertX, Subtitle Workshop and so on, are all affected when I change my locale to Japanese. Letters such as Č,Ć,Š,Đ and Ž all turn into kanji, no matter which font is used.
I dread the day we'll have to upgrade to 10. I hate the way 10 works and looks. Plus, last time we tried it, several programs we use frequently didn't work on it. Hopefully that won't be the case anymore by the time we have to upgrade. If we ever do.
 

Daxter250

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I already have updated WinRAR.
And I already have a locale emulating program. It's a must have if I want to play Japanese H-games. And, as I've mentioned before, I'm well aware it doesn't work with unpacking.

Programs like CDLabelPrint, ConvertX, Subtitle Workshop and so on, are all affected when I change my locale to Japanese. Letters such as Č,Ć,Š,Đ and Ž all turn into kanji, no matter which font is used.
I dread the day we'll have to upgrade to 10. I hate the way 10 works and looks. Plus, last time we tried it, several programs we use frequently didn't work on it. Hopefully that won't be the case anymore by the time we have to upgrade. If we ever do.
well fuck. it's really then just due to the japanese non unicode. nothing to do there then x.x. sry.
maybe there will come a day where you have ya own pc ;D.

jeah we also don't want to upgrade to win 10. our personal datas are the most precious for us and win 10 is just awful at protecting 'em. maybe i will wait for windows 11 or whatever it will be called and hope for the best...
 
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Eios

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So, I really liked the puzzle like aspect of the game (didn't use the walkthrough), though I wish the game had more of a corruption style, where she was turned into a monster or demon instead of the 3rd ending. It just felt kinda off. I loved the first 2 endings though.
 

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Thank you to everyone for your comments! We've made an update to the game on itch.io, adding a new CG and a small amount of story as a reward for beating hard mode. We hope you like it!
 
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drew

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so short no slave trainingg i think they wanted do a test, with the actress voice and all that i hope we get a game of 1 or 2 GB with so many interactions
 

drew

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if anyone want a story : the demon king once powerful lost his power cause a slave who was pretedning be it, she has the protection of the gods or something like that XD and was waiting the right moment to betray the demon king,and kill him, but she couldn't, the demon king weak manage to escape with some weak demons who were serving him, the demo king go to a villasge or city where he can use his last power for change his appearence and fool around, while his servants go to get info about the world, ( the betray of the slave take time 10 years ago, now the slave is a Milf so fucking hot ( i wish this XD ) ) ok, then you put some interacionts, choices, house dungeons, managament of slaves who you can get in the city and villages, make your servants fuck them something like that MAN i wish i could do a game....i 'm so lazy for learn XD




The demon king can't die due his powers, so he and his servants were 10 years in the limbo or hell or whatever xD
 

mrme

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As for the plot, try not to tell a porno story. Losing is a trap, losing later on is a trap, winning was conquest. A situation where the person playing cannot lose has no purpose. You're feeding into a certain crowd I know, the ones who want harems with every girl lusting after dick with no effort. Well, if you want people to take your story seriously; then one of the ways to do so is give failure meaning. Have the demon lose to her weakest state and have her dom him would be an easy one.
I disagree, it's a porno game and a porno plot fits absolutely fine. And this one worked in the context and was executed well enough. Like JSK's game's the plots aren't anything special but give enough context to enhance the mood of the scenes - and that's all a porn game needs.

It's ironic you mention harems and then the very next line you bring up fem dom, fem dom would be fucking stupid in the context of this game's plot.
I liked that she didn't want to fuck the demon king but was willing sacrifice everything to be a hero, and I also liked that it was a trick by the demon king all along - I do love plot twists. (it sounds to me that you're miffed you got blue balled on your fetish).

I also disagree with trying to cram every fetish under the sun in to a game, the western h game market is littered with the hallow husks of game [concepts] that tried to cram everything but ended up left abandoned because the dev burnt out from the burden of taking on too many things.

And I liked that the demon king's appearance was left to the imagination, or atleast I wasn't bothered by it. I mean, who wants a sweaty man arse getting in the way of a woman getting fucked?

Very short, but fun game. Obviously it would be better if it was bigger, but at least it's complete. So congratulations for devs.
Personally I would criticise theme of the game, because it's obviously copy of Japanease trope of Maou. It feels just sad that people of european descent cannot use native culture more. MC could be the dragon which can assume human form or some shit. Western culture it's gold mine, only thing what is neccesary would be little bit of creativity.
The concept of a demon king is hardly solely an eastern one, many cultures have a concept of the devil.
Dragons turning into humans is an eastern thing by the way. Specifically the Chinese myth that some of them are descendants of dragons.
 

rangaru

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The concept of a demon king is hardly solely an eastern one, many cultures have a concept of the devil.
Dragons turning into humans is an eastern thing by the way. Specifically the Chinese myth that some of them are descendants of dragons.
Isn't this a missing the purpose of my post? Demon King, as leader of the monster army is present in the hundreds of japanese novels and games and he isn't in western. Western dragons are different things than eastern dragons.
Point is the game is western take on japanese culture, without original elements. We cannot dispute that. So I think it would be great if with the next game developers tested some new waters.
BTW porn game based on chinese culture/popculture would be awesome as fuck, xuanhuan and wuxia are goldmine for sexy themes. And it would be fresh, because porn is illegal in PRC.
 

dragoon93041

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For a free, short game, this was pretty good. It wasn't great, it certainly could have done more and I'd like to see a bigger, better game next time but for a bite sized game, it was alright. Also, it was free.

And for those comparing it to JSK games, it kinda wasn't, because in most of the JSK games, the warrior was the male AND there are more happy ends. This didn't have a shocking swerve into that kind of stuff.
 

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The game got a small update to 1.2, it adds a pregnancy ending if you beat hard proud. I got an "Exception has Occurred" bug after the scene ended, however if you save you can still view the ending again in extras.
 

Belgerum

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The game got a small update to 1.2, it adds a pregnancy ending if you beat hard proud. I got an "Exception has Occurred" bug after the scene ended, however if you save you can still view the ending again in extras.
Unfortunately, I was not able to reproduce this bug. I'd highly appreciate it if you could post the traceback code of the error, or give further details about how you received it.
 
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