VN Ren'Py Abandoned Derealization [v0.0.5.0] [Greenish Purple]

[pablo.1297]

Because It's not? Unless she makes you watch, her past/present sexual experience isn't what qualify a ntr. She could be in a stable relation with a boyfriend or as it seems to be a porn actress, It's no different. Unless the protagonist start to watch her fuck another dude it's not ntr.

Let's see... the dev said they can all be love interests, so what? if I don't see it I don't pass? reminds me of little kids hiding by covering their face.... if it's a LI the shit is still there even if they don't show us, at least there should be the cheating or cuckolding tag, because I assure you that a porn actress working is not going to be faithful to you.
Okay it's not NTR as such, but shit happens and the developer says on patreon and in the thread that there is no.... clearly knowing that the amount of people supporting that is less, things are, call it ntr or whatever you want....
It's ok I'll go on my way, it's just annoying to waste time because the dev doesn't even dare to post what he plans.

 

[ShikkokunoSharnoth]

Let's see... the dev said they can all be love interests, so what? if I don't see it I don't pass? reminds me of little kids hiding by covering their face.... if it's a LI the shit is still there even if they don't show us, at least there should be the cheating or cuckolding tag, because I assure you that a porn actress working is not going to be faithful to you.
Okay it's not NTR as such, but shit happens and the developer says on patreon and in the thread that there is no.... clearly knowing that the amount of people supporting that is less, things are, call it ntr or whatever you want....
It's ok I'll go on my way, it's just annoying to waste time because the dev doesn't even dare to post what he plans.

Yes, it is. Same for other games and LI. If you don't see them sleep with other dude or bragging about it then it's not ntr. For it to be cheating, she would need to be in relation with MC (It's not).

This is the first time I play it. Dev reworked the game in the 0.4 version with the sis as a porn actress and I can see why it annoy some people. I am not sure it was worth the risk even if he wanted to add drama then camgirl would have gone smoother IMO. Still, I really like the game, the good far outweigh the bad. I hope it does well.

 

[constantine]

I am puzzled as to why the dev decided to have the sister do porn. If it's for drama, then why doesn't the MC confront her about it? Instead he gets mad and walks off, then they agree to not discuss it anymore. If MC is upset about it, why doesn't he try to convince her to stop, or at least ask why she did it in the first place: For money? Fame? Or because she's rebelling?

I just don't understand the reason for her character to have done porn; Camgirl, stripper, nude model, any could have been used instead to similar effect without being as controversial, but instead the writer chose porn without explanation or follow-up. It just creates unnecessary negativity about her character, which I don't think is the intention, because she is otherwise written to be likeable.

I do think the story is compelling, but this update doesn't do anything that really adds or enhances the story. It mostly just adds a bit of flavor to some of the characters, which ended up being more of a negative than positive I'd say. I think this was a misstep in an otherwise promising story.

 

[Before I Forget]

I am puzzled as to why the dev decided to have the sister do porn. If it's for drama, then why doesn't the MC confront her about it? Instead he gets mad and walks off, then they agree to not discuss it anymore. If MC is upset about it, why doesn't he try to convince her to stop, or at least ask why she did it in the first place: For money? Fame? Or because she's rebelling?

I just don't understand the reason for her character to have done porn; Camgirl, stripper, nude model, any could have been used instead to similar effect without being as controversial, but instead the writer chose porn without explanation or follow-up. It just creates unnecessary negativity about her character, which I don't think is the intention, because she is otherwise written to be likeable.

I do think the story is compelling, but this update doesn't do anything that really adds or enhances the story. It mostly just adds a bit of flavor to some of the characters, which ended up being more of a negative than positive I'd say. I think this was a misstep in an otherwise promising story.

He responded as if he was in an relationship with her and she came clean, that's what it looked like to me. Now could he maybe have talked it out more? Probably but then again how would you react to your sister doing porn? Is there a perfect reaction?

 

[vogelbeest]

I am puzzled as to why the dev decided to have the sister do porn. If it's for drama, then why doesn't the MC confront her about it? Instead he gets mad and walks off, then they agree to not discuss it anymore. If MC is upset about it, why doesn't he try to convince her to stop, or at least ask why she did it in the first place: For money? Fame? Or because she's rebelling?

Her 2 truths and 1 lie : I got a college degree, i did porn, i bought a farm.... We know she did not have contact with her parents/brother for 6 years, so paying for her education with porn or buying that farm seems a valid possibility.

 

[Justfindmyway]

Yes sir, but maybe in a day or two. I have my internship to look far and its freezing cold here.

Pls!

 

[Deleted member 2030943]

Yes, it is. Same for other games and LI. If you don't see them sleep with other dude or bragging about it then it's not ntr. For it to be cheating, she would need to be in relation with MC (It's not).

This is the first time I play it. Dev reworked the game in the 0.4 version with the sis as a porn actress and I can see why it annoy some people. I am not sure it was worth the risk even if he wanted to add drama then camgirl would have gone smoother IMO. Still, I really like the game, the good far outweigh the bad. I hope it does well.

Well, it doesn't seem like making sis a porn star was worth the risk after all. The game has been on this site since 2021 and only has 16 subs on Patreon.

I think the story is pretty good so far, but definitely not something I'd support due to the sister situation.

 

[ShikkokunoSharnoth]

Well, it doesn't seem like making sis a porn star was worth the risk after all. The game has been on this site since 2021 and only has 16 subs on Patreon.

I think the story is pretty good so far, but definitely not something I'd support due to the sister situation.

To be fair, I think the game already didn't have many patreons before the whole sister thing. Why? Due to lack of exposure and activity, maybe more promotion would do good not only here? I feel like the start was kind of slow until we met Jilla then it gets far better with MC doing a scene everywhere he goes so maybe push that first so people get a better first impression. Maybe more choices for the player about keeping the MC sane/kind or insane/asshole? For me, it deserves more for the work and potential put into it.

But yeah, the sister doing porn put it into a niche that I don't think was needed. While it's still time, he could just change it for camgirl or even stripper as someone suggested then it would go better with less backlash.

 

[Deleted member 2030943]

To be fair, I think the game already didn't have many patreons before the whole sister thing. Why? Due to lack of exposure and activity, maybe more promotion would do good not only here? I feel like the start was kind of slow until we met Jilla then it gets far better with MC doing a scene everywhere he goes so maybe push that first so people get a better first impression. Maybe more choices for the player about keeping the MC sane/kind or insane/asshole? For me, it deserves more for the work and potential put into it.

But yeah, the sister doing porn put it into a niche that I don't think was needed. While it's still time, he could just change it for camgirl or even stripper as someone suggested then it would go better with less backlash.

Yeah, not sure why the game even ended up on the front page again. It ended at the exact same place the last time I played. Which could be another reason there's so few subs.

 

[Kalsan]

Yes, it is. Same for other games and LI. If you don't see them sleep with other dude or bragging about it then it's not ntr. For it to be cheating, she would need to be in relation with MC (It's not).

This is the first time I play it. Dev reworked the game in the 0.4 version with the sis as a porn actress and I can see why it annoy some people. I am not sure it was worth the risk even if he wanted to add drama then camgirl would have gone smoother IMO. Still, I really like the game, the good far outweigh the bad. I hope it does well.

You are mistaken, even if the MC doesn't see it directly, isn't shown in the story or happen offscreen it still NTR and been in a relationship isn't necessary at all, some very common kind of NTR manga is about the "stealing (actually stealing the LI isn't a necessity neither)" of family members or childhood friends. The sisters stuff isn't NTR but it induce a similar emotional response. So please don't spread more misconceptions about what is or isn't NTR.

 

[Simulacrum29]

And people really thought 2023 would get better, but that will probably not happen.

 

[ShikkokunoSharnoth]

You are mistaken, even if the MC doesn't see it directly, isn't shown in the story or happen offscreen it still NTR and been in a relationship isn't necessary at all, some very common kind of NTR manga is about the "stealing (actually stealing the LI isn't a necessity neither)" of family members or childhood friends. The sisters stuff isn't NTR but it induce a similar emotional response. So please don't spread more misconceptions about what is or isn't NTR.

Stealing? Stealing from who and by what? There is no relation between the MC and his sister and no mention of her having relation in the present. If we follow your flawed logic then there is ntr in Being a Dik since Riona, Camilla, Melanie and Sarah are litteraly whoring themselves out. And surely in MANY more games since it isn't rare to have at least one character into a relation outside the MC so "stealing a girl'.

If YOU feel emotionally hurt or in a state of utter panic because a character that you can romance in a video game mention she dated/had sex then this is YOUR (serious) problem but this isn't ntr.

 

[goulet1995]

Stealing? Stealing from who and by what? There is no relation between the MC and his sister and no mention of her having relation in the present. If we follow your flawed logic then there is ntr in Being a Dik since Riona, Camilla, Melanie and Sarah are litteraly whoring themselves out. And surely in MANY more games since it isn't rare to have at least one character into a relation outside the MC so "stealing a girl'.

If YOU feel emotionally hurt or in a state of utter panic because a character that you can romance in a video game mention she dated/had sex then this is YOUR (serious) problem but this isn't ntr.

iv never played that game but assuming they are a part of the main female cast id say it sounds like it would deserve the tag

 

[VNON]

Boring

 

[Zexawy]

there is nothing new in this update same end on the roof ..!

 

[Randeza]

NO Ntr..........dev 5 seconds later........."well it technically is not ntr that your sister is a pornstar"..... oh sweet naive dev you have opened the flood gates.

Joke aside, i can understand why someone would choose to stay away from this game simply because of that, no matter how good it is, because i think they are worried that the dev will alot more stuff that walks that line.

 

[jasad]

Here's my WT & Gallery Mod for Derealization v0.03a
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[Prj3tC]

Sister porning herself out was definitely a kick in the gut. But NTR? No. She isn't currently in a sensual/sexual relationship with MC. No hints, nothing. It may evolve into one, or not.
If we follow that logic above, every single non-virgin LI in every story should be treated as NTR.

 

[botc76]

Sister porning herself out was definitely a kick in the gut. But NTR? No. She isn't currently in a sensual/sexual relationship with MC. No hints, nothing. It may evolve into one, or not.
If we follow that logic above, every single non-virgin LI in every story should be treated as NTR.

And there you have what a particular little group of players think. If it is in a game and has a vagina, it better not have a sexual relation of any sort, with anyone or anything, otherwise it is NTR.
There's this one game which is like a flagship title for this crowd, where the MC and a female lead go into long diatribes about how when you are in a relationship, even using a dildo is practically cheating on your man.

 

[Greenish]

I loved the rework on this game ; it shows much better the madness and the troubles of our MC.
Don't understand why everyone is so upset about the stepsis... Sure I'm not that thrilled to have her be a pornstar but it gives her more depth than just being the MC's emotional support.
Did she got in the business of her own free will ? Is she really happy or liying to herself ? So much more drama to get from this.

Only a few things (some of them trivial, i'm sorry) got me wondering ; here they are :

1) Is the sis an official LI ? Or are we just having her as a sister and helping her for whatever problem she have ?
2 ) What about Glory ? Hate to leave without telling her ; plus the way the old guy said "we'll discuss it and maybe you'll love it"... that sound as dreadful as possible... Don't want to find the poor girl in a prostitute business....
3) Is it a good thing to call Sidney about the neighbour ? It makes her smile and have a date with her but it comes with so much warning that I actually fear for the girl...

Anyway, can't wait for 0.05 and great job Greenish

These are good questions, but the answer to any of them contains a bunch of spoilers.