VN Ren'Py Abandoned Derealization [v0.0.5.0] [Greenish Purple]

[SaltySugar]

Why is it that more often than not, the only way to give female characters in these games more depth is making them whores? It's legit so weird.

And then you get bunch of these people acting like making character a pornstar is a creative masterpiece in character development and people that don't like it are incels. How do people come up with this stuff?

Anyways, it's obviously not ntr BUT I'd actually like there to be an option to how the Main Character reacts to the sister, the way it's handled now is kind of strange I think.

Also if the sister is an LI, then this thread will become 10x the shitshow it's now already.

 

[Punto]

Please Ripson update your mod for v.0.04!!

 

[botc76]

Why is it that more often than not, the only way to give female characters in these games more depth is making them whores? It's legit so weird.

And then you get bunch of these people acting like making character a pornstar is a creative masterpiece in character development and people that don't like it are incels. How do people come up with this stuff?

Anyways, it's obviously not ntr BUT I'd actually like there to be an option to how the Main Character reacts to the sister, the way it's handled now is kind of strange I think.

Also if the sister is an LI, then this thread will become 10x the shitshow it's now already.

Dude, it's not about not wanting a character to be a pornstar, that makes me or others compare anyone to an incel, it's HOW they go about giving that opinion.
Am I keen on having "my" sister in a game be a pornstar? Certainly not. While I don't want to look down on sex workers of any form, I'd rather not have a close family member be a hooker or a porn actor. Same like I wouldn't want them in any other line of work which is dangerous, unsafe, looked down upon by the majority of our current society or generally stressful and unappreciated.

But for one, this isn't my sister, it's the sister of a character in a porn game. It's also completely hypocritical to go into moral outrage mode as those guys do, when their player character usually is the most promiscuous slut you can think of. Basically wanting to bang EVERY female he sees.
So, if it is because you are a horn-dog who wants a harem of a dozen women, constantly fucking is fine, but if you get paid for it, it's horrible? Not even that, in some games the MC even gets money or gifts for it, but that's not whoring?

It's the hypocrisy, the need to control the life of every woman around you, the unbelievable insecurity that makes those guys have a problem with even feeling the possibility of not being the only man for ANY woman IN A FUCKING PORNGAME!
That they get angry, think they have some form of moral high ground, that they have a RIGHT TO DEMAND the sister of the MC not be a pornstar, that they think their own definition of what constitutes cheating, sharing or NTR is more important than the generally accepted definitions, let alone those used by the site here for tags.

That is why comparisons with incels come to mind. All of that, not that they don't LIKE that the MC's sister is a porn actress.
Lots of people commented here saying they didn't either, WITHOUT acting like those guys.

 

[kokos94]

Dude, it's not about not wanting a character to be a pornstar, that makes me or others compare anyone to an incel, it's HOW they go about giving that opinion.
Am I keen on having "my" sister in a game be a pornstar? Certainly not. While I don't want to look down on sex workers of any form, I'd rather not have a close family member be a hooker or a porn actor. Same like I wouldn't want them in any other line of work which is dangerous, unsafe, looked down upon by the majority of our current society or generally stressful and unappreciated.

But for one, this isn't my sister, it's the sister of a character in a porn game. It's also completely hypocritical to go into moral outrage mode as those guys do, when their player character usually is the most promiscuous slut you can think of. Basically wanting to bang EVERY female he sees.
So, if it is because you are a horn-dog who wants a harem of a dozen women, constantly fucking is fine, but if you get paid for it, it's horrible? Not even that, in some games the MC even gets money or gifts for it, but that's not whoring?

It's the hypocrisy, the need to control the life of every woman around you, the unbelievable insecurity that makes those guys have a problem with even feeling the possibility of not being the only man for ANY woman IN A FUCKING PORNGAME!
That they get angry, think they have some form of moral high ground, that they have a RIGHT TO DEMAND the sister of the MC not be a pornstar, that they think their own definition of what constitutes cheating, sharing or NTR is more important than the generally accepted definitions, let alone those used by the site here for tags.

That is why comparisons with incels come to mind. All of that, not that they don't LIKE that the MC's sister is a porn actress.
Lots of people commented here saying they didn't either, WITHOUT acting like those guys.

idk i did not saw anyone to demand sister not fuck on cam for money....i just saw ppl asked why and that now her character is ruined (of course cause who would like date someone who fuck for money?)

and if someone liked it before i understand that they complain now and stop play....why they would continue playing what they dont like? (it is not like they played something and than bitching about how they dont like play it....it was literaly added after they played 3 updates as "upgrade" to previouse story), why they would not complain? should be here be written only nice things about games and devs?

of course some will not mind, some will like that stuff, after the end mayority just doesnt like that stuff even more if she is sister (family) or LIs.

 

[Before I Forget]

And don't answer, It's better to spark a lot of bs. But it's fine, you are just what I was thinking, one of those emotional mess who cry at the mere mention of past relation in a video game by a fictional character. And I advise you to go back hiding under your bed and not play any game on this website that would result in inflicting you an emotional trauma.
PS: Go in the ignore list, I don't have time to educate your kind.

Just curious, but why do people like you look down on others for feeling emotionally bonded characters? Whether video games, TV shows or even adult visual novels, the serious ones of course, why is it poked fun at by your type?

Should people just go through life not feeling anything or being able to connected emotionally to characters that they can relate to? I mean, I've read a lot of books that were non-fiction and felt some sort of way. But should I have neglected those emotions because it wasn't real, because it was fictional? Some Devs get into this business to tell a story not just provide smut and lewd content and those of us that seek out a greater "high" or better quality other then the status quo are going to be attracted to stories like this. That's just the reality. The good Devs tend to breathe life into characters making them loved by fans, so the "They're fictional characters" or "They're just pixels" arguments has always came off as pure nonsense to me.

People are allowed to feel how they feel. Whether it be good or bad and of course you don't have to agree with them but it's their right.

 

[ShikkokunoSharnoth]

Just curious, but why do people like you look down on others for feeling emotionally bonded characters? Whether video games, TV shows or even adult visual novels, the serious ones of course, why is it poked fun at by your type?

Should people just go through life not feeling anything or being able to connected emotionally to characters that they can relate to? I mean, I've read a lot of books that were non-fiction and felt some sort of way. But should I have neglected those emotions because it wasn't real, because it was fictional? Some Devs get into this business to tell a story not just provide smut and lewd content and those of us that seek out a greater "high" or better quality other then the status quo are going to be attracted to stories like this. That's just the reality. The good Devs tend to breathe life into characters making them loved by fans, so the "They're fictional characters" or "They're just pixels" arguments has always came off as pure nonsense to me.

People are allowed to feel how they feel. Whether it be good or bad and of course you don't have to agree with them but it's their right.

This is my last/collective response to all this "ntr" drama because it feels to me like this is just a tiring never ending loop with people speaking about something and others answering about something else entirely.

Example right here, I NEVER criticize someone for having any emotions or feeling toward fiction. I criticize a VERY VERY vocal and obnoxious mob of people who react with a deep level of hatred and rage that I have rarely seen on the net when there is mention of past/present relation outside of the MC.
You don't like it, It's fine. You can comment/dislike, of course. But when I see how some of the people here behave with such virtual (of course, far easier) aggressivity because the dev of HIS game didn't meet their very limited criteria. Then, indeed I will criticize you and even bash you if you try to spin it around.

So to end our circus that I hope at least, brought some exposure to this game. There is NO NTR whatsoever here, the sister doing porn isn't ntr just as Riona, Camilla, Melanie, Sarah in Being a Dik whoring themselves is not, and this is clearly from what I have seen not the intention of the author to have ntr.

As someone then tried to sway me by mixing the ntr term with stealing. I proved him that there is NO stealing whatsoever in this game and that his definition of stealing is pure cap based on his OWN feelings and emotional state. Again, perfect counter example. Rena in my signature from Acting Lessons will end with the BFF of the MC if you don't end with her. I don't like it since she is my fave but it is meant as stealing or ntr like previously suggested since one of the main girl is "stolen"? Definitely not, It is never meant as such. Just her moving on from the MC.

Then to have him react with incoherent nonsence of course I will put him into his place/the ignore list and tell him what I think of his toxic bunch as a whole.

I don't think I could be clearer or add anything here.

 

[goulet1995]

This is my last/collective response to all this "ntr" drama because it feels to me like this is just a tiring never ending loop with people speaking about something and others answering about something else entirely.

Example right here, I NEVER criticize someone for having any emotions or feeling toward fiction. I criticize a VERY VERY vocal and obnoxious mob of people who react with a deep level of hatred and rage that I have rarely seen on the net when there is mention of past/present relation outside of the MC.
You don't like it, It's fine. You can comment/dislike, of course. But when I see how some of the people here behave with such virtual (of course, far easier) aggressivity because the dev of HIS game didn't meet their very limited criteria. Then, indeed I will criticize you and even bash you if you try to spin it around.

So to end our circus that I hope at least, brought some exposure to this game. There is NO NTR whatsoever here, the sister doing porn isn't ntr just as Riona, Camilla, Melanie, Sarah in Being a Dik whoring themselves is not, and this is clearly from what I have seen not the intention of the author to have ntr.

As someone then tried to sway me by mixing the ntr term with stealing. I proved him that there is NO stealing whatsoever in this game and that his definition of stealing is pure cap based on his OWN feelings and emotional state. Again, perfect counter example. Rena in my signature from Acting Lessons will end with the BFF of the MC if you don't end with her. I don't like it since she is my fave but it is meant as stealing or ntr like previously suggested since one of the main girl is "stolen"? Definitely not, It is never meant as such. Just her moving on from the MC.

Then to have him react with incoherent nonsence of course I will put him into his place/the ignore list and tell him what I think of his toxic bunch as a whole.

I don't think I could be clearer or add anything here.

your example with rena is one of the many reasons i dont touch that devs games anymore

 

[pablo.1297]

This is my last/collective response to all this "ntr" drama because it feels to me like this is just a tiring never ending loop with people speaking about something and others answering about something else entirely.

Example right here, I NEVER criticize someone for having any emotions or feeling toward fiction. I criticize a VERY VERY vocal and obnoxious mob of people who react with a deep level of hatred and rage that I have rarely seen on the net when there is mention of past/present relation outside of the MC.
You don't like it, It's fine. You can comment/dislike, of course. But when I see how some of the people here behave with such virtual (of course, far easier) aggressivity because the dev of HIS game didn't meet their very limited criteria. Then, indeed I will criticize you and even bash you if you try to spin it around.

So to end our circus that I hope at least, brought some exposure to this game. There is NO NTR whatsoever here, the sister doing porn isn't ntr just as Riona, Camilla, Melanie, Sarah in Being a Dik whoring themselves is not, and this is clearly from what I have seen not the intention of the author to have ntr.

As someone then tried to sway me by mixing the ntr term with stealing. I proved him that there is NO stealing whatsoever in this game and that his definition of stealing is pure cap based on his OWN feelings and emotional state. Again, perfect counter example. Rena in my signature from Acting Lessons will end with the BFF of the MC if you don't end with her. I don't like it since she is my fave but it is meant as stealing or ntr like previously suggested since one of the main girl is "stolen"? Definitely not, It is never meant as such. Just her moving on from the MC.

Then to have him react with incoherent nonsence of course I will put him into his place/the ignore list and tell him what I think of his toxic bunch as a whole.

I don't think I could be clearer or add anything here.

Wow man, what's your problem? you seem like you feel like a hero putting people in "place", the guy before didn't tell you anything about ntr, he just told you that he doesn't like that the sister of a mc that you represent by the way and of which you make decisions about, did porn. It seems to me that you make the circus, if you like that kind of fetish of going out with prostitutes and so on, which is certainly not ntr, if it is not in a relationship with the mc, then welcome, do not try to attack others because they do not like it. I admit that when I played it and posted it I was angry, now looking at things more calmly I really don't give a shit what they think, I just won't play it anymore and that's it.
And I really don't understand the need to constantly mention other games, I don't know if it's allowed in the f95 rules either, but we talk about this one, not the others.

 

[vogelbeest]

Wow man, what's your problem? you seem like you feel like a hero putting people in "place", the guy before didn't tell you anything about ntr, he just told you that he doesn't like that the sister of a mc that you represent by the way and of which you make decisions about, did porn. It seems to me that you make the circus, if you like that kind of fetish of going out with prostitutes and so on, which is certainly not ntr, if it is not in a relationship with the mc, then welcome, do not try to attack others because they do not like it. I admit that when I played it and posted it I was angry, now looking at things more calmly I really don't give a shit what they think, I just won't play it anymore and that's it.
And I really don't understand the need to constantly mention other games, I don't know if it's allowed in the f95 rules either, but we talk about this one, not the others.

The original post (YOURS for crying out loud!) in that discussion was exactly what he said :

So... why this game has no ntr tag? I respect people who like that shit, but it's not for me and when I start playing I find out that one of the possible LI is an active porn actress... wtf.
The worst thing is that the game has an interesting story, but after reading that I honestly did not want to pla, Iy do not like to be fooled, not because I do not see it is not.

And like he told clearly in his post, after that people bringing in the other stuff and completely derailing the conversation.

The problem with such a discussion is like you yourself, reading many posts by people that did not even play the game, that very much like you did make the conclusion : "after reading that I honestly did not want to play, I do not like to be fooled, not because I do not see it is not."

Play the game or not, that is up to us, but adding to a discussion here if not played the game is only resulting in endless discussions that do not do the game any justice. My stance on NTR is pretty much like yours but i prefer to play a game myself if there's a no NTR promise from the dev. So far there simply is no NTR, perhaps a less desired background of 1 character.

Certainly not enough to stay away from a story with this quality. Well, not for me anyway.
Does this game have NTR? Answer : No.... Does this game have an active porn actress LI? We do not know! We only know she has a past starring in porn. We simply have no information if she still does it or not.

 

[Knight of the Dawn]

Here's my WT & Gallery Mod for Derealization v0.03a
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Ripson Can you please update the gallery mod for this game?

 

[risky0]

These are not simple porn games, these are adult visual novels, they are two very different things, first learn the difference between the two.
Some of us bond with these characters in games and who are you to dare to make fun of our feelings and emotions.
What I say is not intended for anyone in general, anyone can perceive it as they wish.

@Greenish

There are some reasons why people don't want to play games with ntr content.
It's like choosing prostitution as a career for a potential love interest.
Even if this isn't exactly a content ntr that I expect from an ntr game.
I'm sure you understand how disappointed people are in this situation.
So this is not a simple "no-virgin" thing, it's a serious problem.
Not showing things visually doesn't change the fact that in the background the potential love interest continues to be fucked by others.
The people who want to avoid these types of complaints being written are selfish people who just want you to have the wrong statistics.
I wish you to be careful and prudent in this matter.

I'm really curious, why did you have to make her a whore if your game won't have ntr?
It's clear that she has a potential love interest.
The time allotted to her in the game and the fact that she is one of the cover girls confirms this.
As you can see, many people complain about this situation.
Of course, you can't make everyone happy, but there are a lot of negative comments here, how healthy it is to ignore this situation, the decision is yours.

 

[Justfindmyway]

Here's my WT & Gallery Mod for Derealization v0.03a
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pls update!

 

[Ripson]

Here's my WT & Gallery Mod for Derealization v0.04
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(untested)

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Updated, but untested. Report if ya find any bugs.

 

[jasad]

Updated, but untested. Report if ya find any bugs.

oh! thank you~

 

[Justfindmyway]

Updated, but untested. Report if ya find any bugs.

is working but there only one scene?
thanks any way!

 

[Antera]

Oh great I am playing Schizo that's new one

Edit 1 : Oh Great One of LI is whore

I am gonna wait year before game gets enough content. As it is right now, its hard to get where game is going..

 

[JETracktor]

Very promising start

 

[underoath27]

So, the redhead girl is MC's niece? Or they are not related? Cause that old man wants to bang her, hahaha

 

[Tex_Zion]

I honestly didn't think it ruined the game as most of them spoke here to their porn sister but what really got me out of the game was having no choice, even when the choice is offered and you make yours the game does not give freedom, for example when the sister asks him to promise, or the other girl to tell the truth or I who made all the choices to get away from the drunk girl and even so the MC chatting on the roof with her ( only thing what changed was the fact of not making the call to the girl who rents the house ) and holyshit that boring hallucination. And for those who were offended by their porn sister, they have a good chance that Gray ( the only girl I thought was cool ) to have something related to prostitution be she or someone close who marked her for her reaction during the conversation with her friend.

 

[Fastbuck]

So there is nothing new between 0.3 and 0.4? It ends at the same time like 0.3