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sluthrop

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I have to agree with the criticism of Eve being shoehorned in. She's not only obviously a shitty person, but an annoying character to boot. When you have to replay choices to avoid absolutely preposterous "Game over"-scenarios or when choosing to refuse her still makes the MC her bitch, something is very off. Thankfully - so far - the game allows you to sidestep the other evil masterminds with fetishes for complete idiots who somehow managed to get a law degree.

I may be in the minority though. Quite a few corruption-focused games with a female MC go the route of having her be the oblivious, unwilling, borderline mentally handicapped victim and that seems to float some boats. I had hoped this would fall more in the category of something like Good Girl Gone Bad, which allows for a bit more player agency in navigating the choices.

A world where every NPC is a diabolical sadist looking to exploit a terminally stupid, but attractive young woman. I dunno. If you allow the player to be both a willing and unwilling participant and doesn't remove the choice of refusing altogether it enriches the experience for me. And allows you to give the characters more traits than "asshole", "horny" and "stupid".

This turned into more of a critique than I was planning. The dev gets props for bringing the updates hard and fast, and the writing isn't nearly as bad as 99% of what gets put up on Patreon.
 

Ivan1000

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Hmm...I don't see a lesbian tag but the cover show 2 girls kissing. So is there a lesbian path or something?
 

Ryder77

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Hmm...I don't see a lesbian tag but the cover show 2 girls kissing. So is there a lesbian path or something?
Yes, there probably should be a lesbian tag. I don't know if you'd call it a path, but there are lesbian elements to the game.
 

Ryder77

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This turned into more of a critique than I was planning. The dev gets props for bringing the updates hard and fast, and the writing isn't nearly as bad as 99% of what gets put up on Patreon.
High praise indeed! :) Thanks.
 

Ryder77

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I as another point of view really quite enjoy the Eve Storyline and made my Chris do nothing with any guy to get ahead, which will probably mean I cannot get the perfect ending of getting somewhere in the firm, but screw them(just not literally).
You might be surprised.

It probably shouldn't be forced upon people, but in many of these corruption games there never is that lesbian route that is truly free of any male action inbetween. And it is not like that I don't enjoy that, but I rather like playing the game with the Idea that Eve is right about Chris and she discovers herself here. This is something different and written to my liking.
Eve is NOT a nice person, but there are somewhat different versions of her in the story and, with one version, the ending your are thinking about may well be possible. Can't promise that there won't be "any male action inbetween" though.

So I enjoy this very much. I also like how Ashley right now really seems just like a nice person who does want to best for you, which in her eyes is of course guiding you down a certain path, but it doesn't feel evil like in many of those games where every person you met is just horrible.
She is nice,though you don't want to be on her bad side. IMO, Dianne is a nice person too. Maybe.

So keep it up, I am really looking forward to further episodes.
Thanks. Glad you're enjoying it.
 

Ryder77

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I didn't mean to be so critical really. I like what you've done quite a lot. Other games are way more guilty of playing into what I started railing against!
No need to apologize. I appreciate the honest feedback, even though I might not agree with all of it. I just thought the last couple of lines of your post were humorous, given the balance. :)
 

Cloudchaser

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I know you said it shouldn't be forced but this scene right here destroys Eve as being anything but a bad person to be avoided at any cost.
Personally never had that scene, or I don't remember it(I went along with the whiskey and just getting badly drunk), but I never said that I see her as a nice person. I never defended her character in that regard, I just personally said that I enjoy her. I mean there are in so many games so many worse characters(often the player, lets be honest) and it is just accepted. This is still a corruption game, in which most people are at it's core horrible.

That is why, even if they are not good for them, I do like that atleast some people appear to be better and I hope they stay it. Sure, if you get on their bad side that is a different thing, as even a truly nice person could get angry at someone and screw them over.

Also I don't need a truly pure lesbian route or anything, it was not a tag I didn't expect it and so all is wonderful. Just enjoying the fact how Eve is going about her corruption of Chris right now, how she assert her dominance in that regard. Not seeing that one that much.
 
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freca

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This game definitely needs to have a rape tag. The scene hasn't officially been show yet, but it is obvious, and heavily implied that Eve date-rapes the MC. Domination is one thing, especially if the parties are willing. But rape is a whole other matter. Personally, I am not okay with surprise rape, let alone rape, period. This will reflect in my review score of this game - it won't be positive.
 
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Ryder77

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This game definitely needs to have a rape tag. The scene hasn't officially been show yet, but it is obvious, and heavily implied that Eve date-rapes the MC. Domination is one thing, especially if the parties are willing. But rape is a whole other matter. Personally, I am not okay with surprise rape, let alone rape, period. This will reflect in my review score of this game - it won't be positive.
Of course, you are entitled to your opinion and to your review, but FWIW...

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Ryder77

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Hm, E still has the stuff to blackmail her. You could brush her off at the other party but I don't know if you can do this here too or something along these lines. I don't know the whole story. ^^
After looking at this, I don't think I'm going to add another path, though I will perhaps tweak the dialogue a bit so Christine's motivation makes a little more sense.
 
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HorizonD

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I'm sorry, that some of us make your life harder. ^^
Don't worry, you are doing a great job even when you get such criticism.
Your game is just not entirely my genre, so I make not always nice comments but the story is interesting.

Do, what feels ok for you, even when some are ranting over this or that. :)
 

Ryder77

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I'm sorry, that some of us make your life harder. ^^
Don't worry, you are doing a great job even when you get such criticism.
Your game is just not entirely my genre, so I make not always nice comments but the story is interesting.

Do, what feels ok for you, even when some are ranting over this or that. :)
No need to apologize. You made a good point. If I was in the process of creating that scene for the first time, I would definitely take your suggestion and provide for that possibility. However, at this point, it's easier just to emphasize the existing motivation. It was already there, so it was just a matter of making some minor dialogue changes to bring it out a bit more.
 
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freca

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Of course, you are entitled to your opinion and to your review, but FWIW...

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In regards to your spoiler. There is no clarification on this in the game. Therefore, anyone is left to assume that she is date-raped. Especially when you see her drop roofies in her wine. With no clarity, we're left to believe the worst.
 

Ryder77

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In regards to your spoiler. There is no clarification on this in the game. Therefore, anyone is left to assume that she is date-raped. Especially when you see her drop roofies in her wine. With no clarity, we're left to believe the worst.
Within a couple of chapters, pretty much everything that happened that night is revealed through conversations and pictures. While I can understand why you might believe the worst, I think it's pretty clear from the game that the "worst" did not happen. I mean, lots of bad stuff does happen in the game, and I can understand why some people, even most people, might find some elements of the plot objectionable, but the event which you mention in your comment did not occur.
 

freca

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Within a couple of chapters, pretty much everything that happened that night is revealed through conversations and pictures. While I can understand why you might believe the worst, I think it's pretty clear from the game that the "worst" did not happen. I mean, lots of bad stuff does happen in the game, and I can understand why some people, even most people, might find some elements of the plot objectionable, but the event which you mention in your comment did not occur.
While that is good to hear. I still have a sour taste in my mouth and will not continue to play. But I do wish you the best in your development.
 

Kahamiloa

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All my thanks to the dev, it has been a long time since I didn't have so much fun with a corruption game.
Is there going to have more Tattoos, piercings and other body mod? Nevertheless keep on your excelent work :)
Looking forward for the next update.
 
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