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My one critique of the game is I feel it's lacking a firm main narrative drive. There's plenty of different story routes but I feel there needs to be one firm narrative push in one direction with a bunch of interesting threads leading off it where each of the side things come together to impact the ending. Right now there is the stuff with the raiders, the stuff concerning Zeta, the stuff with Abrax and the entirely optional stuff with the mutants, and right now I have no idea if there's any sort of direction to any of it, any sort of point to it at all.

I mean the mutant stuff being completely optional based off one random decision right at the start makes me think that there isn't any sort of clear vision tbh, they seem like a massive part of anything that would happen yet how could they be when you can entirely bypass their content for the whole game, despite it feeling sort of important? With it being such an easily bypassed thing it immediately makes them stop feeling integral to anything at all.

I mean don't get me wrong, it's all fine and dandy gallivanting about, but without any hint at an overarching goal or some big bad or some crisis being alluded to it feels directionless. All it would take is Abrax saying something like "There's a war coming Zaton" or "This world is ending Zaton" and it would immediately feel like "Ok, shit, got to figure out which decisions are best now, maybe I'd want the Hive on side now, or Shani to be more independent rather than gaining points in helpful".

Just my two cents.
The raiders are optional too, you ignore them if you don't save Asha's sister. The hive too if you keep Mantis with you (if you're on the mutants path)

The overarching story is probably conflict between the queen of Zeta and Abrax.
 
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The overarching story is probably conflict between the queen of Zeta and Abrax
Abrax is certainly a very cryptic individual. There is more than likely a lot of cards that he is holding to himself without revealing the entire deck to Zaton just yet i.e....

That scene where Zaton meets him and some members of his flock in his HQ base, and then the rooftop scene overlooking some of the ruined structures in the surrounding urban landscape, and his ominous, almost cryptic inferences, seem to hint at a larger/overarching conflict brewing shortly and then, Zaton and his family/allies would serve as the immediate disruptor and/or element of surprise within this overarching conflict.

On that note, wonder if there are options to pursue a neutral route so to speak in future updates where you are not outrightly forced to choose between sides? :unsure: Sort of akin to the Fallout games like Fallout NV where one can choose whether to side with factions like NCR/House/Legion or simply just screw over all factions and rule over NV yourself or just be a neutral 3rd party
 
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In the book on the left where we can see the missions, I'm a little lost.:unsure:
Whenever there are main missions or secondary missions, an icon with this symbol (!) appears, correct guys.
I'm on day 15, I played some parts of it and saved it... then the next day I went to play and opened the book, a lot of things are telling me to continue.
I only have 3 things to do but that symbol no longer looks like this (!).
One is to visit the eldest daughter, another is to visit Yuna and the other is to find allies for the Mutants.

Look at the photos and notice that there are no more (!) symbols saying that there is a mission there.... I've already opened all the windows and the map too and I can't go anywhere.... Has anyone experienced this? I think DV forgot to activate the symbol (!) in these missions, because if it had already been completed, it would have written below (to continue).
 

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Sure but why even include that detail tho. "Omar" is a pornified online gender discourse stereotype but also has toddlers with his wife who's gonna fuck the other pornified online gender discourse stereotype. An unnecessary layer of complexity/depth, wouldn't you agree (assuming you're not going to supplement an already padded out story with its implications).
my reply was purely in the context of there not being any children around. I pointed out that we explicitly have mentioned existing children in the game. There are plenty of children in Zeta.. they're just not going to appear on screen.
That said, as for Nadia's siblings, there was, in early stages, a notion of Nadia having a sister and/or a brother, that would play a part in her plotline. Eventually that idea was shelved on account of the game and the family ties already having a bunch of moving parts. Now I don't remember off the top of my head if we shelved it after we had mentioned the siblings and therefore reduced them to unseen babies after the fact, or if we made the concerted decision to have the babies/toddlers in the game even before they were first mentioned.
However, plot-wise, the fact that they exist and are a tie between Omar and Rabiah will most likely not be handwaved. IF and HOW and WHEN it may or may not come into play however, and in what way, is entirely undefined at this stage (as in, we have other fish to fry at the moment.. we have ideas, but we'll really tackle the subject if and when it becomes relevant in the broader setting)
 
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Looks awfully similar
 
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I know married guys who "accidentally" fucked ladyboys om holidays in Thailand and got hooked on them. It would always become a weird obsession. Don't personally see the appeal but I don't judge.
I wonder if this game will ever have gay and trans people. Every good show had all diversities including incest like game of thrones. If that would be the case, then it will at least give Zaton some thought and concern before he sticks his dick into every living female. He lives so safe and comfortable :LOL:
 

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It is true that the calamity in this game is beyond calamity, and humanity does not seem to be recovering very well. Does that mean humans would turn to incest in that situation? Well, the dev can say it does as well as not, since this is a brand new situation.
Do you mean "recovery" in terms of population numbers? Or in terms of civilization?

The first, has been answered already.

The second, I kind of disagree. Zeta is doing pretty well, all things considered. To build a functioning iron age society is not as easy as it might seem. And the Decayed seem to have re-invented / restarted several things from our age, including oil production? We don't know the details but that, also, seems to be working ok, if not as civilized as Zeta.

And it is true that humans have tried the incest route some, in royal families for instance, that refuse to bring commoners into the blood line. And, in that case, there have been consequences. Incest tends to breed idiots and monsters. That is the reason for the taboo. But, as I say, not a lot of kids in this game. And in cases where incest does not breed children, and there is no social taboo, why not?
The way I see it, the incest in this case is purely recreational. There have been some talks between Zaton and Ain about marrying her to someone else. It seems that the player will have influence over what will happen there.

Genetically, it seems that incest is not necessarily disasterous as long as it is not too systematic. The most problematic cases in European royal families were not about one father-daughter pairing but about several generations of cousins, second-cousins and other "legal" ways of incest.

On that note, wonder if there are options to pursue a neutral route so to speak in future updates where you are not outrightly forced to choose between sides? :unsure: Sort of akin to the Fallout games like Fallout NV where one can choose whether to side with factions like NCR/House/Legion or simply just screw over all factions and rule over NV yourself or just be a neutral 3rd party
The only faction where Zaton is strong enough is with the Raiders, but that would not be a very appealing faction to lead in the long run.

I think it would be better to get Shani on the throne of Zeta one way or another. My preference would be as Queen-consort next to Queen Merneith. With false beard, of course.
 

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The only faction where Zaton is strong enough is with the Raiders, but that would not be a very appealing faction to lead in the long run.

I think it would be better to get Shani on the throne of Zeta one way or another. My preference would be as Queen-consort next to Queen Merneith. With false beard, of course.
With the Raiders, I would concur and agree. They are quite nomadic and volatile in nature. They will not hesitate to lash out and act on their own whims and fancies. So, instilling a firm governance structure in a faction such as the Raiders where there does not seem to be as much discipline instilled amongst their core ranks would make them a bit problematic to lead consistently over the long term.

Too much unpredictability which makes them more appealing to use as a wild card option, but not so much one to lean on from a bureaucratic standpoint.

Shani is a possibility. Queen Merneith seems to have taken a liking to her. Shani could also possibly be moulded by the Queen's mannerisms and/or take on a personality of her own. In addition, the player acting by and through Zaton in-game, also are presented with options to guide Shani's personality and her viewpoint on how to take charge in certain scenarios/events when presented to her in-game. Shani has proven to be quite exceptional as it pertains to her leadership capabilities, quick wit, reasoning and deduction skills, as shown by her successfully completing the trials in the Zone so, naturally she does possess viable leadership qualities that would be expected of her during her role of Queen of Zeta.

Perhaps Shani could be seen in an advisory capacity next to Queen Merneith as you mentioned. Assuming that Shani is not cut out for being on the throne (i.e., on account of all the bureaucracy/politics) there are other ways that she might be more useful acting from the shadows instead.
 

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I know married guys who "accidentally" fucked ladyboys om holidays in Thailand and got hooked on them. It would always become a weird obsession. Don't personally see the appeal but I don't judge.
The foreign stuff can have a couple of advantages.
1) much less likely to want to wear the pants
2) not incllined to lay down, spreadem, and say, there you go pal, knock yourself out.
 
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Shani on a throne?
That bitch didnt train all those years to sit on a throne. She was made to kill and get her holes filled occasionally at times, depending on the mission. I could maybe see Ain on a throne if thats possible somehow but Shani is more useful elsewhere. Would be such a poor writing
 

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Short update: Hey everyone, I am back from my break, although it was more stressful than I would prefer because of the Patreon review that we had to take care of, but everything worked out in the end.
One of the things that we were required to change is remove is the link between Patreon and Discord, so ranks on the server will not be updated for the time being. I will prepare a more detailed message about this and other small changes soon, nothing big though, don't worry.
Finally this whole thing is behind us and I can go back to working on update beginning next week! Producing the upcoming content without worrying about a second occupation is only because of you, thank you for your continuous support!!
And thank you for all the messages and comments ;)
Looks very much like my dad's garage workbench when I was a kid - well, except for the cartridge press. :ROFLMAO:
 
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