Ren'Py Desert Stalker [v0.18.0 Beta] [Zetan]

[Bullyoukos]

Glad everyone calmed down. A few very general thoughts that apply to most similar situations.

1. Don't be afraid to call it what it is. Removing content because you think it will ruffle "someone with power over you" 's feathers is self-censorship. The reason why it happened is more important than trying to avoid the word for PR reasons.
2. "Why is it important? It's just <low number> of scenes". It didn't matter before. It started mattering when the scenes were removed/altered.
3. "No plans for further changes" doesn't mean anything. Devs weren't planning to make any changes when the scenes were introduced originally. But something intervened. And as it happen once, it could happen a second time. No one knows.
4. "It happened once involving X character, that means they want to fade out X character from the story" is an incredible overreach. I know it comes from ignorance (that is, because the cause behind the action wasn't timely explained) but still. It's so incredibly easy for the dev to come and say "No, we don't." and end the discussion right then and there.

Congratz for the Steam release. I'll be waiting for the finished product.

 

[wedabest1]

Love the game and hope they are successful on Steam, but I am not replaying it just because the dev decided to make the new update incompatible with old saves. Maybe when the game is fully finished I will return and play all of it.

 

[Meabe37]

Hello! Need a little help, I'm replaying the game rn and for the life of me i can't seem to trigger most of Ain events for some reasons. Is it a bug or i'm missing something? thx

 

[srfsmrf_]

Hello! Need a little help, I'm replaying the game rn and for the life of me i can't seem to trigger most of Ain events for some reasons. Is it a bug or i'm missing something? thx

Are you sure you're running v0.17.1.1 Steam and not 0.17 beta?

(And, if you're on the release version and have played the beta before, I'd clear the persistent file(s) + saves first & start over.)

 

[Meabe37]

Are you sure you're running v0.17.1.1 Steam and not 0.17 beta?

Oh gee, how tf do i have the wrong version somehow lmao. Tvm friend !

 

[fabulous007]

3. "No plans for further changes" doesn't mean anything. Devs weren't planning to make any changes when the scenes were introduced originally. But something intervened. And as it happen once, it could happen a second time. No one knows.

But at least you know that's not their intent. And if the game is that good, I think you'll agree that most of us are willing to get over things that are outside of their control (to a degree). The most widespread payment processors in the west are currently in a crusade against some types of porn they dislike (or that's what they just want to show to their investors), I think Patreon itself is just bending to their will. I don't know why payment processors think we care about their "brand", or think they have the right to tell people how to spend their money legally, but they have a lot of power. Visa even managed to bully several Japanese websites (about manga but I assume they had questionable hentai) to shut down. In that regard, I think even subscribestar isn't totally safe if one day things really got a lot worse, but what can we do. We're not there yet though.

 

[elbro]

Can you now play with this latest version without losing scenes or does it still have bugs?

 

[hsaIV]

the only one that is listed under the download option

It's not updated, plus the game was reworked so I don't think it will work.

 

[MisterDan]

Some quests are bugged and prevent progress, the raider quest just went poof and now I'm stuck with the queen "waiting" a few days.

edit: Make sure to do raiders quest before you finish Fairy. This seems to lock you out at some point.

 

[Xythurr]

But they're not his biological daughters, only step-daughters, which was made clear at the beginning of the game. Or did that change?

The dialogue actually changes to reflect what you put in so they are his daughters if you make them so. Also the models are clearly intended to be Zahra's blood daughters.

 

[elbro]

Some quests are bugged and prevent progress, the raider quest just went poof and now I'm stuck with the queen "waiting" a few days.

edit: Make sure to do raiders quest before you finish Fairy. This seems to lock you out at some point.

I want to play the game but it's better to wait until a fix comes out, your comment helped me clear my doubt.

 

[frozztie]

i've seen some dev who removed content because they are scare losing money and getting banned from patreon, seems like this one is one of them.
i actually planning to buying on steam but i'm against censorship and content removed so i just gonna watch how the game progress for now.

still sad to hear.

 

[BusyCroissant]

I really like the scene where you are supposed to meet the elf at midnight. Saving the girl makes it seem like you just fell for pretty looks.

For a story that's pornographic by nature, it has a good amount of nuance. It makes the world feel alive.

 

[Cynicaladm]

i've seen some dev who removed content because they are scare losing money and getting banned from patreon, seems like this one is one of them.
i actually planning to buying on steam but i'm against censorship and content removed so i just gonna watch how the game progress for now.

still sad to hear.

It's been what, 2 pages, 3?
https://f95zone.to/threads/desert-stalker-v0-17-1-1-steam-zetan.68105/post-15625373

 

[frozztie]

It's been what, 2 pages, 3?
https://f95zone.to/threads/desert-stalker-v0-17-1-1-steam-zetan.68105/post-15625373

i've read it and i'm just gonna say, of course there's no cut content in future because you guys already cut it before even release. still love the game tho, good luck to dev.

 

[Drakan47]

It's been what, 2 pages, 3?
https://f95zone.to/threads/desert-stalker-v0-17-1-1-steam-zetan.68105/post-15625373

why would you still be surprised about people not bothering to read back? weren't you here when the beta version was up and every page was a cycle of the same 2 or 3 questions?

 

[johnsmith15379]

I've been quickly skipping through 0.16 and 0.17 side by side and am impressed with a lot of the earlier scenes being re-rendered. Improves the game quality making it more consistent.

I haven't gone through the whole game comparison yet, but it seems that "Ain's Massage" may have been removed (as well as the earlier Zahra & Ain scene in the game, and previously discussed in this thread) or have I not reached that bit yet?

 

[Lord Bradley]

Interesting that the night visit at Zeta was re-worked in a way that the mutant is now not a slave abused by bad owner, but instead a thief caught in the act by a citizen. Previously even when having Zeta supremacy in mind I had to dispose of that asshole for mistreating his slave, but now I actually let him keep the thief as a slave because I won't tolerate thieves in my kingdom. I thought that was it for my chance with the mutants, but surprisingly despite this "elf" gave me a chance and brought me to the bunker. I do want their technology in the bunker to become either mine or benefitting Zeta, but I also have a feeling Queen have couple of secrets in her inventory considering her "dragon" weapon.

So far my vision for factions with Zeta supremacy in mind:
- raiders (co-operation, protecting Zeta trade routes and outposts in exchange for shelter/service)
- mutants (low class citizens with more dangerous/obscene mutations staying wild outside of Zeta territory)
- decayed (manual labor slaves in distant/contaminated territories, all non-domesticated decayed should be destroyed on sight)
- stalkers (become official members of Zeta intelligence/special military agency, open up training school with swearing loyalty as new part of the process)
- wild tribes (receive basic protection from Zeta in exchange for fulfilling annual quotas of food/materials/soldiers/priestesses)
- merchants (either pay a big tax for trading in Zeta territory or establish base of operations in Zeta and giving citizens discount for their goods)

...or something along those lines, I'm not much of a politician.

 

[Machete]

Interesting that the night visit at Zeta was re-worked in a way that the mutant is now not a slave abused by bad owner, but instead a thief caught in the act by a citizen. Previously even when having Zeta supremacy in mind I had to dispose of that asshole for mistreating his slave, but now I actually let him keep the thief as a slave because I won't tolerate thieves in my kingdom.

I'm actually surprise slavery is still mentioned. Now that the game is on steam slavery is a 'NO-NO' potty mouth bad word in the so politically correct world. Also, did you notice that the guy is no longer fat? I wonder if it is for the body positivity or just because they couldn't do a convincing fat body type.

But i think the actual reason for the change is because the so called thief is actually another Elf and the whole point of the scene is Ivy testing the moral stature of Zaton.

 

[KayalDraknys]

NONE of the Ain content is activating. No punishment for her carelessness in the market. No "Day alone with Dad" story content. Can't even get the option of her being there with her mom, or sleep with her options.

Also, the questline for "Keeping the Guard as a Guard" isn't activating. I have to try another playthrough to see if "Turning the guard into a Desert Wanderer" still works.