Ren'Py Desert Stalker [v0.19.4] [Zetan]

[JJJ84]

I'm cool with a slow burn for Ivy. She is a particular character that doesn't need a full content dump in one shot. The approach to this game's LIs has been excellent. I love it when a game provides lewd scenes with the main cast right away, but then also does a slow burn with other characters that are just as desirable. It's true that Shani is the one household main LI with limited action, but we'll get there. I'm just stunned and impressed that DS went off script by not having the matriarch's lewd scenes drip fed. Zahra is both sexy and supportive...what a catch she is! Meanwhile, Ain provides a welcome relief for those, like me, who are pining for Shani.

I swear with every scene Zahra is getting in, the devs are making her look younger and younger
And yeah, the whole inner conflict MC has with the "I shouldn't be doing this" regarding Shani (not the traditional taboo in a sense, since in world of DS, incest seems to be okay [that is if players sets those parameters in options], but still screams taboo, heh") just makes the whole relationship between him and Shani even more alluring/intoxicating.

Don't remember the name of the girl (i.e. MC's friend's niece, whom MC accompanies to the market and meets with the priestess-like pregnant woman), but I have a feeling she's gonna be a relative slow burn too (though to lesser extent than Ivy I think).

Which I find is great.
The game does not push all LIs into single category into one extreme or the other, so there's something for everyone to enjoy (that is, if you're into one extreme but not the other. Luckily, I'm into both).

 

[JJJ84]

Just a quick question.

All quests in the quest log all say "to be continued", so is that it for now or do I need to trigger something new by waiting a few days in game?

It means that's it for now (and those quests will continue in a future update).

 

[mrttao]

I usually steer clear of female protagonist games as it just doesnt click with me being a guy but if its brief I dont want to pass up what looks a pretty badass game.

I think calling it a female protagonist is a misnomer. You are very clearly a man. just that sometimes you may optionally play some scenes from the point of view of your waifu-daughter

 

[ohmz]

by hard mathematic from two and half months of developing.....january...or dev is joking about this numbers....

That means I can now start catching up on the time I missed so we get ready for the December release.

The numbers in my post are somewhat old. And the dev is saying December still. So I will still have hope for December. Certainly not February like the post I was responding to said.

 

[Cynicaladm]

We indeed plan to release in December. Save for unforeseeable circumstances, that should still be the case. If it were my decision it would be a case of it's ready when it's ready, but Z likes a schedule and to set himself targets, so i know he shall disappoint me by putting In an unhealthy nr of hours.

 

[Echoesinthedarkness]

Well we are already in the middle of third month since last update, and all that time could have been used to avoid unnecessary crunch to rush update in the last couple of weeks.

 

[Cynicaladm]

Well we are already in the middle of third month since last update, and all that time could have been used to avoid unnecessary crunch to rush update in the last couple of weeks.

This may come as a surprise to you, but we all have lives, day jobs and other commitments, beyond providing you with wanking material.

 

[Cynicaladm]

Lol stitch your ass together, and try not to implode that fast in the future. I think first 6-8 weeks progress was going for like 10-20% on a single scene, so if in the next couple of weeks this guy will need to go for 50 or more percent its reasonable to point out that he is doomed it upon himself.

yah.. well.. life happens and circumstances and priorities change.
That said, I could have been a little less abrupt. you caught me during a break in a very long work day and I was probably harsher than I usually am. That was probably unwarranted.

However, the point stands... all that time was spent on a multitude of things, some related to the game, some not related.
Very little of it was wasted, and I don't think Z deserves to be called out on time management, because I actually know how he manages it and how much of it goes into the game... and he delivers quality updates at a pace matched, on average, only by games with much bigger budgets and a team of actual professionals who work on it full time, so I guess you will understand at least the reason for my reaction, if not the tone.

 

[oracle255]

is this game still being developed?

 

[wiseold6996]

is this game still being developed?

yes

 

[oracle255]

yes

Praise the sun. my left nutsack is very happy

 

[disC0rdia]

While I am interested to see the Stalker trials, I'm not as excited as you to switch protags for most of the episode. I just prefer following my main MC throughout the course of a game. I would feel the same if the protag switch were between male characters as well. Just my personal preference to stick with one person since I self insert when playing games like this. Full role play.

I see it the same way.
VNs live from immersion. Switching characters breaks (well not really breaks, but decreases) immersion or lets you skip to the ones you like to see. I personally would prefer a stronger focus on one protag (so here: just telling from the perspective of the MC).
Nevertheless I could live with it, if they build Shani up to a full second protag, as it doesn't seem to me, that they will lose themselves in xy hundreds side protags (and as long, as it is for the sake of the story). I can undestand, that they may want to deliver an objective for female readers - although I would qustion here, if a full second story with a female MC wouldn't deliver a much more satisfying result for each party.

But be it as it may, desert stalker will always be a pioneer project for me, as it is the first title ever, where I could enjoy the sandboxing/'free roaming' (or see any sense in it).
(And the first title, where I got the feeling that the author really gave thoughts about the way how sandboxing/'free roaming' should be built in, so that it actually has a use/profit for the reader)

 

[dolfe67]

Nevertheless I could live with it, if they build Shani up to a full second protag, as it doesn't seem to me, that they will lose themselves in xy hundreds side protags (and as long, as it is for the sake of the story). I can undestand, that they may want to deliver an objective for female readers - although I would qustion here, if a full second story with a female MC wouldn't deliver a much more satisfying result for each party.

Female Protagonists are not reserved to female readers (on the contrary when you see the average FP game). If you don't self insert you can make her do what you want her to do.

It's like saying Tomb Raider was made for female players...

 

[Kellermann]

I see it the same way.
VNs live from immersion. Switching characters breaks (well not really breaks, but decreases) immersion or lets you skip to the ones you like to see. I personally would prefer a stronger focus on one protag (so here: just telling from the perspective of the MC).
Nevertheless I could live with it, if they build Shani up to a full second protag, as it doesn't seem to me, that they will lose themselves in xy hundreds side protags (and as long, as it is for the sake of the story). I can undestand, that they may want to deliver an objective for female readers - although I would qustion here, if a full second story with a female MC wouldn't deliver a much more satisfying result for each party.

Exactly. Immersion breaking is the best way to put it for me. Epic novels can easily switch perspectives, but AVNs, not so much. I'll give the devs the benefit of the doubt and say the main reason they switch to Shani is because they want the players to get more engrossed in her story and the beginnings of a desert stalker. I have no desire to see my LI Shani fucking her way through the desert without my MC, though.

But be it as it may, desert stalker will always be a pioneer project for me, as it is the first title ever, where I could enjoy the sandboxing/'free roaming' (or see any sense in it).
(And the first title, where I got the feeling that the author really gave thoughts about the way how sandboxing/'free roaming' should be built in, so that it actually has a use/profit for the reader)

Sometimes I like sandox box games and sometimes I don't. It all depends on how it is implemented. This game does sandbox flawlessly imho. I never feel like I'm grinding in any way. Everything I do in the game is either fun or intriguing or adventurous.

Female Protagonists are not reserved to female readers (on the contrary when you see the average FP game). If you don't self insert you can make her do what you want her to do.

It's like saying Tomb Raider was made for female players...

I actually play and like Tomb Raider fem protag games, but those aren't AVNs where a big part of the game is the character getting railed. The immersion breaking is a big part of why I don't like mid-game switches especially M to F, but another part is Shani is an LI. She's my preferred LI too. I have no desire to "become" my LI when I started the game as someone else. That's just weird. It's one thing to become a fly on the wall and watch another character do a few things, but here you are actually taking complete control and making choices from the perspective of said character. Again, it's bizarre for players like me who role play as the starting MC.
It's just not my kink to "control" a female protag for the sole purpose of inserting her into situations where she gets molested. And that's a main component of a lot (not all but a lot) of heterosexual female protag games on F95. Thankfully, I don't foresee the devs doing that with Shani, so I'll remain hopeful.

 

[Paz]

I have no desire to see my LI Shani fucking her way through the desert without my MC, though.

Shame

On a more serious note though, most of the time the POV switch is also warranted by narrative reasons. One notable upcoming example is the Zone, where Shani will be on her own.
Z will be nowhere close, so the only way to experience it is through Shani's eyes, if you choose to do so.
If you don't, there's a strong possibility that you'll get a synopsis of what happened there upon her return but not a step-by-step rundown.
This unfortunately means that certain updates will feel shorter for players that chose to not follow Shani around.

Another potential side-effect of it is, it's possible that Shani will be called to make some decisions in certain occasions so if you choose to not follow her, she will make those decisions on her own.
Of course this would be impacted by how Z tutored Shani up to that point so it will not be out of complete control of the player, but still something unable to control at that specific moment.

All in all, Shani will not become the centerpiece of DS in terms of "being the MC", it's still and will be Z's adventures by and large.
I fully understand the immersion breaking, but it's something that we feel adds to the game and Shani's journey was always planned to be sort of -if not integral- closely linked to the overall story.

 

[Bruno3]

So is the game releasing next week or wha
should be close by now

 

[Bruno3]

Like will she getting strange D wether by force or choice. I see the Harem tag and just hope the dev gets that Harem fans dont want to see one of the main LI being defiled by others, again by force or otherwise.

If you dont like seeing your favorite daddys little princess Shani getting violated and defiled in all possible holes by stranger bandits and non strangers, then its probably not a game for you

 

[Chagatai Khan]

If you dont like seeing your favorite daddys little princess Shani getting violated and defiled in all possible holes by stranger bandits and non strangers, then its probably not a game for you

Although I'm thinking you're being sarcastic, it's always difficult to tell in an online discussion. In case you're not however, I'm pretty sure that's not going to happen, or at least that it will be entirely avoidable.

 

[Bruno3]

Although I'm thinking you're being sarcastic, it's always difficult to tell in an online discussion. In case you're not however, I'm pretty sure that's not going to happen, or at least that it will be entirely avoidable.

I was being kinda sarcastic in a funny way. Seeing only Shani being MC exclusive is pretty boring tbh, wheres the thrill.
And you're right about being avoidable. Rape is against Patreons terms im pretty sure, not surprising.
Everything has to come down to "consent" or a loophole in order for it to pass, so yeah, i guess its a win win situation if it actually does happen. But yet you will still find people whining even if its entirely avoidable, it is just how it is.

 

[jdantas93]

Shani getting violated and shit would perfectly be in line with this game, i don't know if yall noticed but this an extremely violent world, of course it being optional or maybe a game over scene in case you fail her mission would be better.

I hate when people want to force their views on others.