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Morrigan: I know that we don't have a bad relationship with them. But they are not the most trustable (sic) people.
Justin, immediately after: But I know for sure that they are trustable (sic). We have a good business relationship with them.

Felt a bit confusing, but I'm rolling with it
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Tokenugget

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I get the feeling that Jessica is actually the mole.... ? I'm not saying she has done it for malicious intent but she comes off as playing 4d chess and even her appearance comes off as conniving. We have 2 situations where the MC is put in precarious situations due to a "spy" in the organization and i wonder if it was actually her. Again, i'm not saying she it conspiring against the family...

But maybe she is trying to strengthen the MC and knows how it plays out with safeguards she set up?
 

Maulis47

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I get the feeling that Jessica is actually the mole.... ? I'm not saying she has done it for malicious intent but she comes off as playing 4d chess and even her appearance comes off as conniving. We have 2 situations where the MC is put in precarious situations due to a "spy" in the organization and i wonder if it was actually her. Again, i'm not saying she it conspiring against the family...

But maybe she is trying to strengthen the MC and knows how it plays out with safeguards she set up?
I don't think so. Too much risk especially if it gets out that she did it. The trust people had in their family would fall.
 

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I get the feeling that Jessica is actually the mole.... ? I'm not saying she has done it for malicious intent but she comes off as playing 4d chess and even her appearance comes off as conniving. We have 2 situations where the MC is put in precarious situations due to a "spy" in the organization and i wonder if it was actually her. Again, i'm not saying she it conspiring against the family...

But maybe she is trying to strengthen the MC and knows how it plays out with safeguards she set up?
That would be an interesting theory to explore, unfortunately it has a notable problem: she wouldn't do anything that could be detrimental for her family.
Can't see Jessica, even with safeguards in place, doing something that would endanger her family, especially with all she does to protect them.
She's willing to dedicate every aspect of her life to making sure that her family is taken care of, and that changes are made to the world around them in a way that is beneficial to their continued happiness and future success. Before her time running the bank, and helping Maria with political matters, she fought alongside her in the previous wars. That doesn't seem like the kind of person who would play games with her family's safety.

All that said, it would indeed be a huge twist if my supposition about her character is wrong. Guess we'll have to wait and see, once the mole is caught.
 
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This may be asking a bit too much of the dev, but while I loved the new update, due the increase of new characters it would be nice for them to be on the porfolio, I would recommend to use it more if possible.

It would help a lot to dive even more deep into the story, and feels weird that basicly Samir is alone in the middle of the girls lmao. Even if there aren't variables (like friendship points), a small resume of who x or y person is would be nice.

I don't know if it is because the episode isn't full, as I said above it's the first time I've played the game, and don't know about the normal update cycle of the dev, but yeah, just giving my 2 cents about what I believe it could improve the experience pretty well. Don't get me wrong, I still loved the game so far, just giving an opinion.
 
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I just finished playing the whole game over again because my previous saves wouldn't load...man oh man this is one of my favorite games...I don't think there is one ugly women in the whole game...and Lilith with her green eyes...OMG....anyway I wish the updates were quicker and I can't wait for the next one
 
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Tokenugget

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That would be an interesting theory to explore, unfortunately it has a notable problem: she wouldn't do anything that could be detrimental for her family.
Can't see Jessica, even with safeguards in place, doing something that would endanger her family, especially with all she does to protect them.
She's willing to dedicate every aspect of her life to making sure that her family is taken care of, and that changes are made to the world around them in a way that is beneficial to their continued happiness and future success. Before her time running the bank, and helping Maria with political matters, she fought alongside her in the previous wars. That doesn't seem like the kind of person who would play games with her family's safety.

All that said, it would indeed be a huge twist if my supposition about her character is wrong. Guess we'll have to wait and see, once the mole is caught.
It's just a suspicion, but the way she slapped Lilith after... i'm not clear on why but i guess it's for choking the MC when they first met..? Made me question her morality.

She probably has the best intentions for the family but as they say "the ends justify the means" ... plus as you said it would be a huge twist and an interesting one.
 

Maulis47

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It's just a suspicion, but the way she slapped Lilith after... i'm not clear on why but i guess it's for choking the MC when they first met..? Made me question her morality.

She probably has the best intentions for the family but as they say "the ends justify the means" ... plus as you said it would be a huge twist and an interesting one.
Was that the first time you saw a parent with far too big expectations slap their child as a means of discipline?
 

Tokenugget

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Was that the first time you saw a parent with far too big expectations slap their child as a means of discipline?
I was spanked as a kid but never slapped in the face.... besides that, i was more surprised by how her emotional state changed so quickly. Even the MC noticed. It's not normal for someone to go from raging abusive anger to loving embrace at the drop of a dime.

Hopefully you never have a narcissist gf :ROFLMAO: That shit is crazy.
 
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Hopefully you never have a narcissist gf :ROFLMAO: That shit is crazy.
well that's highly unlikely.
narcissist is broadly used term by people to describe someone who they dislike,disagree with or who comes across as stubborn/assertive.
The professional psychiatrists can't even agree on the diagnosis because there is major overlap with tons off other diagnoses.
one might say hes said person is, the other might say no the person isn't because this other descriptor fits better.

same thing happend to the psychopath term. commonly used by the masses but rarely by the actual professionals in diagnosis.
 
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well that's highly unlikely.
narcissist is broadly used term by people to describe someone who they dislike,disagree with or who comes across as stubborn/assertive.
The professional psychiatrists can't even agree on the diagnosis because there is major overlap with tons off other diagnoses.
one might say hes said person is, the other might say no the person isn't because this other descriptor fits better.

same thing happend to the psychopath term. commonly used by the masses but rarely by the actual professionals in diagnosis.
Oh so going from a raging abuser to kind and loving within seconds is normal. I guess my claim is just "narcissist is broadly used term by people to describe someone who they dislike"

Got it, thanks.

Note to self: i really need to learn to never criticize (even though it wasn't criticism of this great game, but more theorizing) anything about any game unless it's universally accepted on this forum.
 
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Oh so going from a raging abuser to kind and loving within seconds is normal. I guess my claim is just "narcissist is broadly used term by people to describe someone who they dislike"

Got it, thanks.

Note to self: i really need to learn to never criticize (even though it wasn't criticism of this great game, but more theorizing) anything about any game unless it's universally accepted on this forum.
I think you are going a little too far. HiHaHo most likely meant that you took quite a leap by talking about an abusive parent and then talking about a narcissist gf.
Also back to the abusive parents part, it's not normal for that kind of shift in personality but it depends on their way of thinking. To some that's just how it is done so they don't really care that they show that side of themselves when they are discipling their child and there is the other kind that doesn't do it publicly unless they are pushed but they still do it within the confines of their extended family because that's just the way it is for them. It's not easy to break that kind of cycle, my father for example never really physically disciplined me(1 slap and even at that time I agreed that I deserved it) because from his experiences growing up it didn't achive it's intended effect. When we talked about it years later he said he regreted it and thought that he should have handled it differently but I told him that I disagreed.
Might I add that I'm just thinking about this through empathy not talking from experience as thankfully there weren't any abusive parents in my extended family.
 

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Oh so going from a raging abuser to kind and loving within seconds is normal. I guess my claim is just "narcissist is broadly used term by people to describe someone who they dislike"

Got it, thanks.

Note to self: i really need to learn to never criticize (even though it wasn't criticism of this great game, but more theorizing) anything about any game unless it's universally accepted on this forum.
frist off, i never said anything that you ought to or not to do anything, this is a completely self made notion.

but i'd say criticise all you want, i personally have no problem with you stating your opinion.
maybe just try to think about "how" to do so, that it makes sense and isn't just feelings, especially when judging a person character.

also be ready to get criticised yourself, judging from your misconception about my reply : where i only stated that narcissist and psychopath are terms abused by the masses to label others without the proper knowledge on what those terms actually mean and how rare it is for such people to actually exists.
and then your reaction to it, it might be something you can work on ,especially for a online platform like this.
making misconceptions then instantly playing the "victim card" might get you a like or two but it also makes you look weak and easily to manipulate for "entertainment'' purposes

Maulis47 got the right idea i was making.
you going from abusive parent to " Hopefully you never have a narcissist gf " is a statement that doesn't make sense
to which i simply replied "its unlikely because common people don't have the knowledge and skillset to actually diagnose those character type's but they still use them, usually with intend to slander someone who they believe wronged them."

i'd say corporal punishment isn't the way to go with parenting,but it can work if done right.
it isn't normal (mainly revers to socially acceptable when talking about what people should/shouldn't do) to do/use anymore but it was quite common.
 
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