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I messed up the part. I will fix it. Thank you.
Don't worry, my friend, you're doing great work!
Update was massive and very rewarding, so it's fine that something would pop up here and there. And with players here, we can work together to find these things ^^
 
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Tokenugget

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I get the feeling that Jessica is actually the mole.... ? I'm not saying she has done it for malicious intent but she comes off as playing 4d chess and even her appearance comes off as conniving. We have 2 situations where the MC is put in precarious situations due to a "spy" in the organization and i wonder if it was actually her. Again, i'm not saying she it conspiring against the family...

But maybe she is trying to strengthen the MC and knows how it plays out with safeguards she set up?
 

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I get the feeling that Jessica is actually the mole.... ? I'm not saying she has done it for malicious intent but she comes off as playing 4d chess and even her appearance comes off as conniving. We have 2 situations where the MC is put in precarious situations due to a "spy" in the organization and i wonder if it was actually her. Again, i'm not saying she it conspiring against the family...

But maybe she is trying to strengthen the MC and knows how it plays out with safeguards she set up?
I don't think so. Too much risk especially if it gets out that she did it. The trust people had in their family would fall.
 

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I get the feeling that Jessica is actually the mole.... ? I'm not saying she has done it for malicious intent but she comes off as playing 4d chess and even her appearance comes off as conniving. We have 2 situations where the MC is put in precarious situations due to a "spy" in the organization and i wonder if it was actually her. Again, i'm not saying she it conspiring against the family...

But maybe she is trying to strengthen the MC and knows how it plays out with safeguards she set up?
That would be an interesting theory to explore, unfortunately it has a notable problem: she wouldn't do anything that could be detrimental for her family.
Can't see Jessica, even with safeguards in place, doing something that would endanger her family, especially with all she does to protect them.
She's willing to dedicate every aspect of her life to making sure that her family is taken care of, and that changes are made to the world around them in a way that is beneficial to their continued happiness and future success. Before her time running the bank, and helping Maria with political matters, she fought alongside her in the previous wars. That doesn't seem like the kind of person who would play games with her family's safety.

All that said, it would indeed be a huge twist if my supposition about her character is wrong. Guess we'll have to wait and see, once the mole is caught.
 
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This may be asking a bit too much of the dev, but while I loved the new update, due the increase of new characters it would be nice for them to be on the porfolio, I would recommend to use it more if possible.

It would help a lot to dive even more deep into the story, and feels weird that basicly Samir is alone in the middle of the girls lmao. Even if there aren't variables (like friendship points), a small resume of who x or y person is would be nice.

I don't know if it is because the episode isn't full, as I said above it's the first time I've played the game, and don't know about the normal update cycle of the dev, but yeah, just giving my 2 cents about what I believe it could improve the experience pretty well. Don't get me wrong, I still loved the game so far, just giving an opinion.
 
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I just finished playing the whole game over again because my previous saves wouldn't load...man oh man this is one of my favorite games...I don't think there is one ugly women in the whole game...and Lilith with her green eyes...OMG....anyway I wish the updates were quicker and I can't wait for the next one
 
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That would be an interesting theory to explore, unfortunately it has a notable problem: she wouldn't do anything that could be detrimental for her family.
Can't see Jessica, even with safeguards in place, doing something that would endanger her family, especially with all she does to protect them.
She's willing to dedicate every aspect of her life to making sure that her family is taken care of, and that changes are made to the world around them in a way that is beneficial to their continued happiness and future success. Before her time running the bank, and helping Maria with political matters, she fought alongside her in the previous wars. That doesn't seem like the kind of person who would play games with her family's safety.

All that said, it would indeed be a huge twist if my supposition about her character is wrong. Guess we'll have to wait and see, once the mole is caught.
It's just a suspicion, but the way she slapped Lilith after... i'm not clear on why but i guess it's for choking the MC when they first met..? Made me question her morality.

She probably has the best intentions for the family but as they say "the ends justify the means" ... plus as you said it would be a huge twist and an interesting one.
 

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It's just a suspicion, but the way she slapped Lilith after... i'm not clear on why but i guess it's for choking the MC when they first met..? Made me question her morality.

She probably has the best intentions for the family but as they say "the ends justify the means" ... plus as you said it would be a huge twist and an interesting one.
Was that the first time you saw a parent with far too big expectations slap their child as a means of discipline?
 

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Was that the first time you saw a parent with far too big expectations slap their child as a means of discipline?
I was spanked as a kid but never slapped in the face.... besides that, i was more surprised by how her emotional state changed so quickly. Even the MC noticed. It's not normal for someone to go from raging abusive anger to loving embrace at the drop of a dime.

Hopefully you never have a narcissist gf :ROFLMAO: That shit is crazy.
 
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Hopefully you never have a narcissist gf :ROFLMAO: That shit is crazy.
well that's highly unlikely.
narcissist is broadly used term by people to describe someone who they dislike,disagree with or who comes across as stubborn/assertive.
The professional psychiatrists can't even agree on the diagnosis because there is major overlap with tons off other diagnoses.
one might say hes said person is, the other might say no the person isn't because this other descriptor fits better.

same thing happend to the psychopath term. commonly used by the masses but rarely by the actual professionals in diagnosis.
 
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well that's highly unlikely.
narcissist is broadly used term by people to describe someone who they dislike,disagree with or who comes across as stubborn/assertive.
The professional psychiatrists can't even agree on the diagnosis because there is major overlap with tons off other diagnoses.
one might say hes said person is, the other might say no the person isn't because this other descriptor fits better.

same thing happend to the psychopath term. commonly used by the masses but rarely by the actual professionals in diagnosis.
Oh so going from a raging abuser to kind and loving within seconds is normal. I guess my claim is just "narcissist is broadly used term by people to describe someone who they dislike"

Got it, thanks.

Note to self: i really need to learn to never criticize (even though it wasn't criticism of this great game, but more theorizing) anything about any game unless it's universally accepted on this forum.
 
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Oh so going from a raging abuser to kind and loving within seconds is normal. I guess my claim is just "narcissist is broadly used term by people to describe someone who they dislike"

Got it, thanks.

Note to self: i really need to learn to never criticize (even though it wasn't criticism of this great game, but more theorizing) anything about any game unless it's universally accepted on this forum.
I think you are going a little too far. HiHaHo most likely meant that you took quite a leap by talking about an abusive parent and then talking about a narcissist gf.
Also back to the abusive parents part, it's not normal for that kind of shift in personality but it depends on their way of thinking. To some that's just how it is done so they don't really care that they show that side of themselves when they are discipling their child and there is the other kind that doesn't do it publicly unless they are pushed but they still do it within the confines of their extended family because that's just the way it is for them. It's not easy to break that kind of cycle, my father for example never really physically disciplined me(1 slap and even at that time I agreed that I deserved it) because from his experiences growing up it didn't achive it's intended effect. When we talked about it years later he said he regreted it and thought that he should have handled it differently but I told him that I disagreed.
Might I add that I'm just thinking about this through empathy not talking from experience as thankfully there weren't any abusive parents in my extended family.
 

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Oh so going from a raging abuser to kind and loving within seconds is normal. I guess my claim is just "narcissist is broadly used term by people to describe someone who they dislike"

Got it, thanks.

Note to self: i really need to learn to never criticize (even though it wasn't criticism of this great game, but more theorizing) anything about any game unless it's universally accepted on this forum.
frist off, i never said anything that you ought to or not to do anything, this is a completely self made notion.

but i'd say criticise all you want, i personally have no problem with you stating your opinion.
maybe just try to think about "how" to do so, that it makes sense and isn't just feelings, especially when judging a person character.

also be ready to get criticised yourself, judging from your misconception about my reply : where i only stated that narcissist and psychopath are terms abused by the masses to label others without the proper knowledge on what those terms actually mean and how rare it is for such people to actually exists.
and then your reaction to it, it might be something you can work on ,especially for a online platform like this.
making misconceptions then instantly playing the "victim card" might get you a like or two but it also makes you look weak and easily to manipulate for "entertainment'' purposes

Maulis47 got the right idea i was making.
you going from abusive parent to " Hopefully you never have a narcissist gf " is a statement that doesn't make sense
to which i simply replied "its unlikely because common people don't have the knowledge and skillset to actually diagnose those character type's but they still use them, usually with intend to slander someone who they believe wronged them."

i'd say corporal punishment isn't the way to go with parenting,but it can work if done right.
it isn't normal (mainly revers to socially acceptable when talking about what people should/shouldn't do) to do/use anymore but it was quite common.
 
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I had a good time with this. I think I'd played it before but I started over from the beginning and tried to pay a bit more attention to what's going on - sometimes I have trouble keeping track of who is who if there's tons of characters and you can't name them. All the daughter's names beginning with 'L' definitely tripped me up a fair bit at the start. It's a little goofy in some places, but there's a good amount of story to enjoy, can be mildly pervy/rough - I liked some of the scenes and animations, and I got into it.

While I get that it's key to the story my main gripe is that you've got no say in who you marry.
The rules apparently limit it to 4 so as stated by Maria it'll be: Lilith, Kagura, Samira and Darla. I don't mind slutting it up with a bunch of girls I'm not crazy about (though I did reject the gross doctor), but if I've got a limited number of wives then I'd want to pick them.
- First up, you promise to marry Mina. Putting aside that I'm not that fussed by her, she's not one of the 4 and has no political value. So I'm a bit confused there. Is it just that you're gonna add her to the pile after becoming Emperor? While she is handy and you guys have some rough sex, she gets way too bossy once you agree to marry her.
- Lilith, I just find boring and doesn't interest me at all, only plus side is abs.
- Samira, bit too thicc for my tastes but I like the tan+white hair combo. Problem with her is she's all innocent and naïve just like Lilith, blushing like a child when Vella makes even the slightest comment to the MC.
- Darla, I don't remember meeting but her portrait isn't blacked out so I guess we did at some point?... looks alright... but her and Kagura (token Asian I presume) I can't say much about yet.

Funnily enough, some of the sidegirls or unnamed ones you see at bars, etc. are actually the hottest as they avoid the curse of the overboobedness that most of the main ones seem to be afflicted by.

Sooo... girls actually worthy of getting a wife slot:

Lily - The muscles alone gets her to the top, nice tan too. I would kinda have liked either her, Maria, or both to have tanlines though. Weirdly thin nose on her, but she's hot enough to look past that. I'm hoping there'll be a route to keep or enhance her sex addiction rather than lessen it, I'd like to see her being a full on beast later.
Sidenote. I chose the speak to Jessica option when talking to the doctor about a permanent solution (which I don't even want, let him be a horny manbeast) rather than asking for a favour (def wasn't going to waste money). I thought it might lead to at least an interesting convo with her, but then nothing happened, did it just occur offscreen?

Rinka - absolute top tier. Skinny little thing, big nipple rings, clearly an absolute whore, fantastic - no notes. Gutted there was no action with her in the club and the love potions though.

Maria - got that mother incest goodness, but her main draw is being a bad bitch. I'd like to see even more of her just being a straight up villainess and outplaying the opposition. Downside, she's beyond overboobed, a full on blimp smuggler. Extra points for having a pregnancy route, I was hoping breeding would come up just in general but didn't expect it with her given her age.

Debby - would have been higher up the list if Samir wasn't a dirty liar and she was packing a meaty treat, how cruel of him to get your hopes up like that. Despite losing serious points for getting more busty she makes the cut just because I like how filthy she is - the bit of making her eat cum off of the dirty floor was nice. I do think she'd look best blonde, it'd compliment her skintone nicely, and she needs much heavier makeup - she's supposed to be a model. Though whatever happened to gangbanging her and Monica, I feel like that got teased ages ago in the game?
Sidenote. but it's weird the game wants to force you to get with Lisa just because you chose Debby. I don't care if she was a childhood love, people change and Debby is hotter... I didn't mind it as there's no forced marriage, but still found it an odd restriction.

Beatrix - every harem needs a goth slut. There's multiple contenders here though, see below, and we've not gotten any action with her yet... but so far I feel like she's ahead.

Honourable mentions:
- Noir/Vella/Joxxi, other goth slut contenders. Noir gets extra points for the DP and Vella for the pierced tits (even if they're too big) and abs - I was happy she could be added as a gf.
- Kalisha, got a good look, seems like a slut, hasn't appeared much yet.
- Robin, early on I just liked for being veiny, as odd as that is. Now we've finally seen her face and gotten a little story then her stocks have gone up, but I kinda wish they hadn't fixed so much of her and she was more mutanty though.
- Arni, only real good point is her inclination towards leopard print... but she also reminds me a little of Nicole from zzz, which I find fun.

Giving a warning that low karma results in a game over when someone's already deep into the game is kinda ehh. I was deliberately being scummy as that's the sorta MC I like, if it's just something that gives you a gameover there needs to be a warning at the start. But it's better than no heads up at all and at least I could start over skipping through making some slightly different choices, like asking that one lady to drink less.

Oh the episode 3 scenes (Vella onwards) are missing from the gallery but I presume that's known. I also have a weird thing where the gallery scenes on pages 3 and 4 all seem to be locked unless you exit to the menu and then they're displayed just fine.

I don't like this new medicine that makes the women less veiny, that's the reverse of what I want, haha. I'm hoping at least it'll not work on Robin because her injuries/mutations, and hers will be more pronounced. Lily has such great muscles should get them more too, but I can't come up with a good enough lore reason for it.

Incorrectly named variables. I told Debbie to eat ass, and I that's what gave the ftmannilings variable... but later with Mina you miss out on that content because it's looking for a ftmrimming one. There may have been other instances of it missing content, that's just the one I noticed.
 
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