Jhon1885

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really enjoyed, hope this gets updated
francesca is my fave so far
When is next update?
Hope dev consider for update
The same criticism to the sandbox part that seems that simplifying too much and putting a lot of intro story was not the best.

While I'm finishing Irreverent Heresy, I'm looking for a successor for this, I already commented on Patreon, I'll be migrating the characters to the remake or reimagining of TESS.

I'm still in Alpha, but at the moment there are 11 characters out of 13, 2 of them may be exclusive for Patreon.

But it's still missing; this project didn't get rid of the harassment like the other games I've done, but unlike IH (which I even had to remove the grades, being the most hostile with people calling me a faggot, shame on my parents or cockroach), the execution of the story I didn't think it was on the right track, it needs a little more polishing.

Think that I don't earn real money with this or real profit, the “self” motivation is very important as well as the return, but the negative return at the moment is equal or more than the positive one.

Anyway, thanks for your interest!
 

maremaremare

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i've played like 300 games here and this is the game with my favorite models by far,
top 2 with demon deals, idk why dev stopped making updates , such a tragedy
 

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The same criticism to the sandbox part that seems that simplifying too much and putting a lot of intro story was not the best.

While I'm finishing Irreverent Heresy, I'm looking for a successor for this, I already commented on Patreon, I'll be migrating the characters to the remake or reimagining of TESS.

I'm still in Alpha, but at the moment there are 11 characters out of 13, 2 of them may be exclusive for Patreon.

But it's still missing; this project didn't get rid of the harassment like the other games I've done, but unlike IH (which I even had to remove the grades, being the most hostile with people calling me a faggot, shame on my parents or cockroach), the execution of the story I didn't think it was on the right track, it needs a little more polishing.

Think that I don't earn real money with this or real profit, the “self” motivation is very important as well as the return, but the negative return at the moment is equal or more than the positive one.

Anyway, thanks for your interest!
i dont know why but i like this game more than your other ones, it has a nice flavor .
 

Jhon1885

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i dont know why but i like this game more than your other ones, it has a nice flavor .
It's true that I couldn't replicate this one in others, even if I recycle ideas from it; it costs a lot the point and click part to be worth it, but I'm working on it, although it's still in alpha, I'm giving more priority to the Irreverent Heresy saga.
 

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It's true that I couldn't replicate this one in others, even if I recycle ideas from it; it costs a lot the point and click part to be worth it, but I'm working on it, although it's still in alpha, I'm giving more priority to the Irreverent Heresy saga.
drive where your passion is, hopefully i can see this one complete.
and again thank you for your hard work, i know its a bitch and you making 3 ATM. great work
 
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I hope MC will stop referring to trans woman as "he" because at this point is in my opinion gay...when that trans character will be referred as "she" then in my opinion it will be much better
 

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It's true that I couldn't replicate this one in others, even if I recycle ideas from it; it costs a lot the point and click part to be worth it, but I'm working on it, although it's still in alpha, I'm giving more priority to the Irreverent Heresy saga.
will the update ever see the light of the sun?
i literally played hundreds of games, and this 20 min gameplay has stuck with me and still top 2 games ever,
any chance for update?
 
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Jhon1885

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will the update ever see the light of the sun?
i literally played hundreds of games, and this 20 min gameplay has stuck with me and still top 2 games ever,
any chance for update?
Thank you very much!
DFB, I thought of it as a sort of spinoff sequel to Irreverent Heresy and to make it more of a sandbox.
Although it's gotten some good reviews, it didn't live up to expectations.
Narratively I just released the sequel to IH (IHII, it's not here yet but it's in Itch); as for DBF, I'm reforming it to TESS (a remake of my first VN), to give it more identity, and reinforcing the sandbox system, but it's a long way off.
 

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Thank you very much!
DFB, I thought of it as a sort of spinoff sequel to Irreverent Heresy and to make it more of a sandbox.
Although it's gotten some good reviews, it didn't live up to expectations.
Narratively I just released the sequel to IH (IHII, it's not here yet but it's in Itch); as for DBF, I'm reforming it to TESS (a remake of my first VN), to give it more identity, and reinforcing the sandbox system, but it's a long way off.
I'll try this one out as we await your development on TESS rework/remake. Enjoying the stories and your artistic approach.
 
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When i saw the trans characters i immediately got excited, especially with the WAM models, but the MC being transphobic and refusing to see them as a woman is a huge mood kill. Could've easily let us choose to call them she, it feels like the dev didn't want to let us go in that direction, like they never thought people would want to. It's so strange to see someone not knowing what a transwoman is nowadays, and thinking they're a man dressed up.
 

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When i saw the trans characters i immediately got excited, especially with the WAM models, but the MC being transphobic and refusing to see them as a woman is a huge mood kill. Could've easily let us choose to call them she, it feels like the dev didn't want to let us go in that direction, like they never thought people would want to. It's so strange to see someone not knowing what a transwoman is nowadays, and thinking they're a man dressed up.
I hope MC will stop referring to trans woman as "he" because at this point is in my opinion gay...when that trans character will be referred as "she" then in my opinion it will be much better
Dev is defensive, as is the MC. The whole premise is people need him for something he does not understand.
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Cuando vi a los personajes trans me emocioné al instante, sobre todo con las modelos WAM, pero que la protagonista sea transfóbica y se niegue a verlas como mujeres me desanima muchísimo. Podríamos habernos dejado llamarlas "ellas", pero parece que el desarrollador no quiso que fuéramos por ese camino, como si nunca hubieran pensado que la gente querría. Es muy extraño ver a alguien hoy en día sin saber qué es una mujer trans y pensando que es un hombre disfrazado.
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When i saw the trans characters i immediately got excited, especially with the WAM models, but the MC being transphobic and refusing to see them as a woman is a huge mood kill. Could've easily let us choose to call them she, it feels like the dev didn't want to let us go in that direction, like they never thought people would want to. It's so strange to see someone not knowing what a transwoman is nowadays, and thinking they're a man dressed up.
Unfortunately, there are errors in the translation. Spanish has many verbs and genders for each thing, so when translating into English, these confusions often arise.
Then there is the Aristotelian definition (substance) and the principle of non-contradiction, among other postulates of metaphysical (philosophical) realities and biological realities, to define a person or a transgender person; that is, it goes far beyond what can be discussed here.
Now, I don't know if you know, but there are trans people, call them “old school”; that is, not the new generation, I'm talking about the 90s; who are transsexuals, not “transsexual women”; I don't know if you understand the difference.
Now, specifically DFB/TESS, I remember not using this definition (which exists, I repeat, not all trans people support LGBT+, not all see themselves as women, and that doesn't mean being “a man in disguise,” it's just that, transsexual...) because narratively it didn't fit with these stories, maybe Franchesca, but since La Leo (La is a feminine article) goes a lot with black magic, and the lore of my games, psychological logic already established in IH/IHII.

Anyway, what does it matter? You know how many years I've been reading “what a shame”; but they never support it? And I'm not talking about money, I'm talking in general.
I mean, if you don't like what I do, why complain?
Take it or leave it, but don't complain.

Best regards
 
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Unfortunately, there are errors in the translation. Spanish has many verbs and genders for each thing, so when translating into English, these confusions often arise.
Then there is the Aristotelian definition (substance) and the principle of non-contradiction, among other postulates of metaphysical (philosophical) realities and biological realities, to define a person or a transgender person; that is, it goes far beyond what can be discussed here.
Now, I don't know if you know, but there are trans people, call them “old school”; that is, not the new generation, I'm talking about the 90s; who are transsexuals, not “transsexual women”; I don't know if you understand the difference.
Now, specifically DFB/TESS, I remember not using this definition (which exists, I repeat, not all trans people support LGBT+, not all see themselves as women, and that doesn't mean being “a man in disguise,” it's just that, transsexual...) because narratively it didn't fit with these stories, maybe Franchesca, but since La Leo (La is a feminine article) goes a lot with black magic, and the lore of my games, psychological logic already established in IH/IHII.

Anyway, what does it matter? You know how many years I've been reading “what a shame”; but they never support it? And I'm not talking about money, I'm talking in general.
I mean, if you don't like what I do, why complain?
Take it or leave it, but don't complain.

Best regards
I enjoy your distinctive voice as a creator. Keep experimenting and sharing your work. It is appreciated.
 

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Unfortunately, there are errors in the translation. Spanish has many verbs and genders for each thing, so when translating into English, these confusions often arise.
Then there is the Aristotelian definition (substance) and the principle of non-contradiction, among other postulates of metaphysical (philosophical) realities and biological realities, to define a person or a transgender person; that is, it goes far beyond what can be discussed here.
Now, I don't know if you know, but there are trans people, call them “old school”; that is, not the new generation, I'm talking about the 90s; who are transsexuals, not “transsexual women”; I don't know if you understand the difference.
Now, specifically DFB/TESS, I remember not using this definition (which exists, I repeat, not all trans people support LGBT+, not all see themselves as women, and that doesn't mean being “a man in disguise,” it's just that, transsexual...) because narratively it didn't fit with these stories, maybe Franchesca, but since La Leo (La is a feminine article) goes a lot with black magic, and the lore of my games, psychological logic already established in IH/IHII.

Anyway, what does it matter? You know how many years I've been reading “what a shame”; but they never support it? And I'm not talking about money, I'm talking in general.
I mean, if you don't like what I do, why complain?
Take it or leave it, but don't complain.

Best regards
You know, that hurts right? I implore you to do better because it seems the misgendering is intentional.
 

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You know, that hurts right? I implore you to do better because it seems the misgendering is intentional.
Oh, really? First of all, who are you to decide what is correct and incorrect usage?
Second, why do you think you have special protection? Are you aware of the tags for religion and race? Because you can make porn about those topics without worrying about whether you're offending anyone, but the other topics require special care?

Of course, a nun can be used, you can blaspheme Christianity for porn, but it is understood that this is within the realm of fantasy.
I can be insulted, even in reviews, but I must be careful about one thing, which is that, like fascism, you must only refrain from your truth.


You shouldn't just look at your own navel; I doubt you've even paid attention to the psychology of the characters.
It's one of the worst forms of disrespect to storytelling in general.
 
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Oh, really? First of all, who are you to decide what is correct and incorrect usage?
Second, why do you think you have special protection? Are you aware of the tags for religion and race? Because you can make porn about those topics without worrying about whether you're offending anyone, but the other topics require special care?

Of course, a nun can be used, you can blaspheme Christianity for porn, but it is understood that this is within the realm of fantasy.
I can be insulted, even in reviews, but I must be careful about one thing, which is that, like fascism, you must only refrain from your truth.


You shouldn't just look at your own navel; I doubt you've even paid attention to the psychology of the characters.
It's one of the worst forms of disrespect to storytelling in general.
You say that, yet AMAB nonbinary women would be highly offending trying to enjoy a erotic game and be denied their experiences, their identity, their TRUTH. So, respectfully, it IS problematic. You're aligning with transphobes on this website even though you seem like a decent person. Simply telling it like I'm seeing it as a nonbinary person.
 

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You say that, yet AMAB nonbinary women would be highly offending trying to enjoy a erotic game and be denied their experiences, their identity, their TRUTH. So, respectfully, it IS problematic. You're aligning with transphobes on this website even though you seem like a decent person. Simply telling it like I'm seeing it as a nonbinary person.
You realize that you are appealing to several fallacies, one of them being “appeal to emotion,” another being “straw man,” and another being “hasty generalization.”

I can assure you that I must be one of the few who, four years ago or more, was already creating trans characters—not futa, not a fetish, but characters whose sexual orientation or self-perception was not a distinctive personality trait, when the vast majority were just excuses for fetishism.
But this isn't because I'm aligned with the LGBT+ community, it's just my way of writing.

My problem with what you write is that you're not realizing that if you stop to think about it, everyone should change something, and porn is not exactly the best place to start.

Do you think you're the only one who finds it offensive? There are rape tags here... What's more, he sent me a private message saying he would stop doing NTR because it reminded him of infidelity (this is real, and in fact he was one of the few who didn't insult me for the content).


And I'll say it again, there's a lot of fetishism around Latinos, Summertime among many others, such as the submissive Latina maid. I'll say it again, all Christians are abusers or Christian girls are hypocritical nymphomaniacs; so what do we do? Is that okay?
Or what about “hypocritical closeted gay Christians”? That's for sure.


If the game isn't for you, let it go, without disrespect; I receive no support except for a few exceptions on my Patreon, which is a small group of people who like how I handle the lore of dark magic and are my patrons.
As for making arbitrary political corrections because someone might feel offended, no thanks.
 
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