Rince556

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I like the game, nice story and visuals - so a definite "thumbs up" here!
Just one really not very important thing: I like using a gamepad for klicking through the dialogues in renpy games. Funnily this game crashes everytime I am using/ clicking the gamepad. Doesn´t happen with other renpy-games here...
Anybody knows the reason for this?
But it is really not important if it stays like this, it´s fine for me me and won´t stop me from playing future updates.
 

Avaron1974

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What's going to happen with Vali is going to be a really late game choice, and by then the stakes will be laid out. The choices you can make regarding his fate will run the gamut, as you might imagine. If you do choose some of the worst decisions, then yeah it can be very negative for some of the harem members. They might lose the man they love, and yeah they won't be happy about that. For some of them, like Kimmy, it'll be much worse than that.

You can stop it from happening though. This game is absolutely not going to railroad you toward a bad ending, and every bad thing that can happen in game is preventable.
If (and that's a big if) Vali gets his way, then yes, the MC's harem won't matter. Given the way Vali's been talking, though, having a harem is more about which girls are useful to him, than sexual interest. It just doesn't seem to actually matter much to him outside of usefulness, and he pretty clearly has no interest whatsoever in some of the girls, like Glasha and Kimmy. He likely considers the current harem pursuit to be a useful distraction to keep the MC from thinking about the ramifications of their mysterious 'deal'. As for Vali's old harem, almost all of them are pretty clearly long-dead (Natasha is the only one of his lovers we know is still 'alive', and while he was a bit annoyed at the MC flirting with her, he didn't seem to care that much about it even with her reciprocating a little), so he'd be starting a new one based on who was useful to him, perhaps with the intent of stealing some of the MC's girls by pretending to be him, if they don't know about Vali.

Besides that, what else can the MC really do? Vali's inside him already, so he can't really go back on the deal without knowing what the deal actually was in the first place. So his choices are to resist and have Vali fuck him up constantly and screw up his life, or he pretends to go along with Vali unti lhe understands enough about magic and/or their deal to extract Vali safely, perhaps with Liliah's help (which seems to be the route he's taking). It's possible that decision will be reflected later in the reluctantpath vs eagerpath variable choice.

That said, I am firmly confident that Vali is not intended to 'win' on the harem path. IMO, Vali is being set up as an antagonist temporarily allied with the MC for his own purposes, not as an ally. Blackhand has also made comments about allying with various factions in the future, so it's always possible a poor decision in of those faction choices could lead to a Vali-controlled MC and a Bad End.
I just want it known that wasn't me complaining.

One thing I love about in depth stories are actual consequences.

I just had a slight niggle in the back of my head that thought it was an auto lose situation. I know some stories like to hit that bittersweet ending, some even go the bad end if it fits.

Having choices actually matter and consequences be huge is awesome.
 

sk1122

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Very nice update, even when it is not too long.
Linking two of the most demanded things to do aka Kimmy and starting to come clean to important LIs while also having a choice on making it solo or threesome worked out very neat imo.
The only way I could even imagine that going any hotter would been if the "solo" version had a flabbergasted Yui come home early and pull the same thing as Qadira did when we were with Faiza. Which would been unfeasible at a hotel, and too repetitive anyway.
Also glad that we are getting noteably more srs about retrieving Anya.
 

consumptionist

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i know i shouldn't cuck my mate but c'mon.....dangling samantha's sexual frustration in my face and then blocking the choice to plunge her depths is just wrong.....on soooo many levels :D

and i totally did NOT just download the walkthrough mod in hopes of opening that choice at all.......totally not going to hell
but then lili is there.......dammit booking my ticket ;)
 

gregers

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"No music this release. The artist who produced the free music I loved said he didn't want his music in a game with adult content."
Why would that matter? Easier to get forgiveness than permission. Use it anyway if you like it. As long as it stays off Steam it's not a big deal as other platforms don't care unless a court orders them to take it down (which seldom happens, that costs $). And ironically AVNs are not that famous or mainstream so if you never asked permission or told him what it was for odds are he would have never found it in an AVN. He sounds like the type that never plays porno stuff so he'd never find it himself anyway.
Why be an arsehole about other people's creative work.
 

JJDrakken

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First off. Glasha & Kimmy, more that please. I wanted that to last good 5 more mins, lol. But I'd like to get Faiza involved and dominate her into feasting on them green gal's snatches as I pound her silly, lol.

But on a serious note, I am still very much intrigued about our magical abilities and any other powers we may have. Shit we are eating souls now? Dang...but that also makes me be like shit, Vali knows this and that gives him edge over us atm. (I still don't trust him). I hope we can get update where we seriously focus on our abilities & work on mastering what we known and to see if we can learn more. I'd also wanna see more on our triple mystery we got. The Cult, the murders(did dude return or do we have a copy cat?), & Vampire/Vali agenda.

I would love see some action with Vamp Lasses, Demon Lasses, can we throw a Troll Woman in there? lol.

Finally, I need more "Mommy" time with our Demoness, but I need to let Mommy L, know who's in charge in the bedroom :p
 

Hungover00

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Other than the Samantha at the club thing, the only greyed out option I remember was the option to talk to the two random girls at Jose and Samantha's BBQ.

How many people do you have to turn down to get that option unlocked, and is there anything good back there?
 

sk1122

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How many people do you have to turn down to get that option unlocked, and is there anything good back there?
Think for now you can only get to know them if you breaking up with Glasha.
Leads to some scene where Adam drags you out of your funk by pulling you into Lily's club and you hook up with one of those two, Yrsa
 

Nizzquizz

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Smh
How the whole Samantha path is basically screaming for you to make every decision to get your best friend killed.
An act of almost willful betrayal for nothing but canal lust.
How despicable.
Especially since this means I have to replay it all.

"So, Jo - about that thing you mentioned some months back? Yeah, I thought about that ... let me tell you EVERYTHING in EXCRUCIATING and possibly LETHAL detail!" :whistle::sneaky:
 

Raziel_8

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Smh
How the whole Samantha path is basically screaming for you to make every decision to get your best friend killed.
An act of almost willful betrayal for nothing but canal lust.
How despicable.
Especially since this means I have to replay it all.

"So, Jo - about that thing you mentioned some months back? Yeah, I thought about that ... let me tell you EVERYTHING in EXCRUCIATING and possibly LETHAL detail!" :whistle::sneaky:
Hey i'm sure Jose knows what he is doing, yeah he surely won't do anything stupid, he can handle himself, he will be fine....:KEK:
And as a true friend i will take good care of his wife and daughter :whistle:
 
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Nizzquizz

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Hey i'm sure Jose knows what he is doing, yeah he surely won't do anything stupid, he can handle himself, he will be fine....:KEK:
And as a true friend i will take good care of his wife and daughter :whistle:
And you're a true friend and saint for it. It's what he would have wanted too.
Well, he'd probably not want the whole untimely and extremely painful death part, but it's for the Greater Good!
Which might or might not be the name of the MC's penis, but that's totally besides the point.
 
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zeraligator

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Why is the protag such a goody two shoes even with (near) max 'bad boy' points? I went with that path expecting more self interest and less empathy, but he still refuses to have fun with the lesbian bartender and still wants Adam(or Eve) to be like he was, even though he hates the fucker.
Also couldn't start the Samantha path on my 'evil' route even though the only different (relevant) choice was not telling Jose and not being a good friend. I feel like not being a good friend would normally lead to cucking the guy not the other way around.

The screen gets a big black bar on top after leaving the 'occasional storage'.
 

HentaiKami

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Why is the protag such a goody two shoes even with (near) max 'bad boy' points? I went with that path expecting more self interest and less empathy, but he still refuses to have fun with the lesbian bartender and still wants Adam(or Eve) to be like he was, even though he hates the fucker.
Also couldn't start the Samantha path on my 'evil' route even though the only different (relevant) choice was not telling Jose and not being a good friend. I feel like not being a good friend would normally lead to cucking the guy not the other way around.

The screen gets a big black bar on top after leaving the 'occasional storage'.
Perhaps because he was written as person with some principles before he got his powers. In games with heavy story and character focus like these, protag is not going to be doing completely what you want, because they had existing personality written for them, instead of just being blank page. It would take way longer for the powers and other influences to corrupt MC to that point, considering that he has not pursued his feelings towards Samantha during all these years, because of his friendship with Jose is that valuable to him.
 

HentaiKami

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I have to say, i really liked Glasha and Kimmy before this update, now i really love those characters and their interactions with each other. :love:
 
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