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BTLD

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There isn't one, it wouldn't serve any purpose, but also wouldn't change anything right?
so you're saying
how could things not change when you've added to her backstory ?
and also why are you trying to shame people that are not comfortable with that kind of backstory for a character?
Some people accept , some people enjoy it others don't.
 

BTLD

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It would be if it explained some current behavior. However that doesn't seem to be the case here. This isn't Haley's Story.

However, something happened in the past that has affected Suzy and the MC. Probably something to do with the father and perhaps the aunt. At some point, that will probably be explained.
so.. a gangbang mom possibly had in your theory would explain the atraction between brother and sister...
right....
sure..why not
and .. I like green cars.
 
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JonTommy

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Serious question, what if she had been? What does that change? She has two kids so you know she had sex already.....what does it matter?
It changes the way I as a player look at her for one. I wouldn't want anything to do with anyone who has been gang banged. There's a difference between sex with a partner and being passed around by multiple guys and it's gross.

Edit: To expand on this I play these games to feel some sort of fantasy right? I don't want to know about all the guys an LI is fucking or has fucked, I don't want to know about how she went to a college party and got passed around, or anything else like that unless it serves an actual purpose in the story and even then it's going to make me consider whether she is LI material or not (except rape while it's gross and overused as a way to bring drama into a game I don't hold that against the character, it just bums me out). Do the girls need to be virginal and pure? No absolutely not but at the same time I don't want a whore something in my brain tells me its gross and well, I lose interest. CeCe for example absolutely no interest in her on my part mostly because she actually sucks but also because she complains about how all the guys she's ever used (I'm not going to say dated) can't fuck her properly, that's cool I bet at some point the MC will help her discover what it's like to be properly fucked I mean my MC won't but others will. I'm just not into sharing/swinging or anything like that and I go limp when another dick is involved I can't help it so knowing an LIs past isn't something I care about I want to focus on the interactions between them and the MC and to some extent myself since I'm the one making choices based on what I like and don't like.

Pale Carnations is supposed to be an awesome game but I can't bring myself to play it because from what I understand all the girls work in a sex club it just isn't my thing. I have no interest in an LI that's a pornstar, prostitute, escort, camgirl, or whatever form of sex work you can think of. I guess what I'm getting at is there's a difference between being experienced and being a whore it's a fine line but getting gangbanged definitely crosses it and ain't for me and if you are experienced keep that shit to yourself.
 
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Walter Victor

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so.. a gangbang mom possibly had in your theory would explain the atraction between brother and sister...
right....
sure..why not
and .. I like green cars.
I either didn't explain clearly, or you didn't comprehend what I wrote. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

I think something happened that affected both Suzy and the MC, that involved the mother, the father and the aunt. I DO NOT think it involved a gangbang. More likely some kind of abuse by the father, who perhaps was killed during the event. That would explain Suzy's issues and the MC's nightmares. But I don't believe that it involved sexual abuse of Suzy, since she is a virgin at the beginning of the game. At some point, the MC needs to delve into that more than has been done.
 

Walter Victor

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It changes the way I as a player look at her for one. I wouldn't want anything to do with anyone who has been gang banged. There's a difference between sex with a partner and being passed around by multiple guys and it's gross.
I can understand your stance if the gangbang was consensual. I can understand not wanting to see it regardless. But if it was forced, why would it matter? We can assume she has had sex before the game started. She does have two kids after all.
 
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BTLD

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I either didn't explain clearly, or you didn't comprehend what I wrote. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

I think something happened that affected both Suzy and the MC, that involved the mother, the father and the aunt. I DO NOT think it involved a gangbang. More likely some kind of abuse by the father, who perhaps was killed during the event. That would explain Suzy's issues and the MC's nightmares. But I don't believe that it involved sexual abuse of Suzy, since she is a virgin at the beginning of the game. At some point, the MC needs to delve into that more than has been done.
the quote .. my quote ..that you quoted was from a discussion of gangbang...which involved the mom..a gangbang in college .. so next time maybe just tag me?
doing that I would say negates the chances of anyone misundersting ...but again that's my opinion

About your theory .. sounds plausibale , there is a chance of something like that might have happened in the past and it doesn't seem that far fetched.
Though the aunt seems ... like she doesn't take shit .. so in your scenario... I think she would have a more of a abuser role than abusee .
or who the hell knows...
 
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JonTommy

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I can understand your stance if the gangbang was consensual. I can understand not wanting to see it regardless. But if it was forced, why would it matter? We can assume she has had sex before the game started. She does have two kids after all.
I edited my post to expand my thoughts on what I wrote. Consensual gangbangs are gross and absolutely would make me shut that line down because I just don't want to pursue someone who is into that sort of shit even if it was just once in the past they went for it and dude I just ain't about it. Rape just bums me out more than anything I think it's over used in games to bring in drama and tug at heart strings when there are hundreds of other ways to endear an LI to the readers.
 

Walter Victor

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the quote .. my quote ..that you quoted was from a discussion of gangbang...which involved the mom..a gangbang in college .. so next time maybe just tag me?
doing that I would say negates the chances of anyone misundersting ...but again that's my opinion

About your theory .. sounds plausibale , there is a chance of something like that might have happened in the past and it doesn't seem that far fetched.
Though the aunt seems ... like she doesn't take shit .. so in your scenario... I think she would have a more of a abuser role than abusee .
or who the hell knows...
Don't wish to argue too much about this. But I did address the gangbang theory in my first paragraph, then changed the focus of my post (away from gangbang) in the second, in order to expound on what I felt was a more plausible scenario.

But, at least we do agree on something. :)
 
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I edited my post to expand my thoughts on what I wrote. Consensual gangbangs are gross and absolutely would make me shut that line down because I just don't want to pursue someone who is into that sort of shit even if it was just once in the past they went for it and dude I just ain't about it. Rape just bums me out more than anything I think it's over used in games to bring in drama and tug at heart strings when there are hundreds of other ways to endear an LI to the readers.
This and your previous post are totally fair and valid points. I guess the overall point I should have tried to make is, there is a lot of speculating going on about the game and what might possible happen in the future and now things that may or may not have even happened in the past. I'm of the mindset to just wait and see what actually happens in the game.
 

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This and your previous post are totally fair and valid points. I guess the overall point I should have tried to make is, there is a lot of speculating going on about the game and what might possible happen in the future and now things that may or may not have even happened in the past. I'm of the mindset to just wait and see what actually happens in the game.
Yea, to be clear that I mentioned the mom being gangbanged as a joke just because of the weird turn the game took in regard to the whole studio thing, the porn logic involved (according to the dev), and my disappointment at having to scratch some names off the list of girls my MC will pursue especially Tessa. I don't actually think the mom did anything like that I was just being an ass if I'm being honest.

Again I'm not out here looking for the purest of pure virgins but I really don't desire to be made aware of the sexual adventures of the LIs, especially if its watching a current lover suck on her neck and then them talking about hooking up later this is tagged as a harem game why would anyone desire to see that? If it wasn't a harem then yo go for it I'll just skip that chick and continue the story with someone I enjoy. Like if this wasn't a harem game and I had to choose one LI to finish the game with right now, it would be Liz and it's not even a hard choice to make and this is supposed to be a harem game. The game is still early in development so depending on what we learn about the rest of the girls that list might get larger. Like if Suzy goes after this model career, spends more time with the aunt at that fucking studio, and starts posting nudes online, sorry I just don't like that lifestyle so she'd be off my list and I'd probably drop the game at that point. I don't just play these games for the porn I enjoy watching relationships develop between the characters involved and it's hard for me to ignore a characters past and current actions. I probably self insert too so I make decisions like I would IRL, I'd never date a chick that told me she'd been gangbanged or worked somewhere that felt so casually about sex that they kept condoms on hand, why would my MC?
 

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Yea, to be clear that I mentioned the mom being gangbanged as a joke just because of the weird turn the game took in regard to the whole studio thing, the porn logic involved (according to the dev), and my disappointment at having to scratch some names off the list of girls my MC will pursue especially Tessa. I don't actually think the mom did anything like that I was just being an ass if I'm being honest.

Again I'm not out here looking for the purest of pure virgins but I really don't desire to be made aware of the sexual adventures of the LIs, especially if its watching a current lover suck on her neck and then them talking about hooking up later this is tagged as a harem game why would anyone desire to see that? If it wasn't a harem then yo go for it I'll just skip that chick and continue the story with someone I enjoy. Like if this wasn't a harem game and I had to choose one LI to finish the game with right now, it would be Liz and it's not even a hard choice to make and this is supposed to be a harem game. The game is still early in development so depending on what we learn about the rest of the girls that list might get larger. Like if Suzy goes after this model career, spends more time with the aunt at that fucking studio, and starts posting nudes online, sorry I just don't like that lifestyle so she'd be off my list and I'd probably drop the game at that point. I don't just play these games for the porn I enjoy watching relationships develop between the characters involved and it's hard for me to ignore a characters past and current actions. I probably self insert too so I make decisions like I would IRL, I'd never date a chick that told me she'd been gangbanged or worked somewhere that felt so casually about sex that they kept condoms on hand, why would my MC?
I think most everyone tends to insert their "self" into these games. It's part of the fun.

Totally agree about Liz right now. The date was awesome and meeting granny was just icing on the cake.
 

JonTommy

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I think most everyone tends to insert their "self" into these games. It's part of the fun.

Totally agree about Liz right now. The date was awesome and meeting granny was just icing on the cake.
Yea the granny was great, Liz is amazing... I really hope that the rest of the girls when we eventually learn about them are as great as Liz is. At this moment the only ones that are hard passes for me are the aunt, CeCe, Raven, Tessa, and the model whose name I forgot. I think Natasha is mostly putting on a front as the "slut" to deal with whatever she's got going on in her life I could be wrong but she seems like she tries to hard to give off the whole "don't give a fuck" attitude she has.
 

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You know that when a guy is asking the girl to take it slowly that guy is not intersted in the girl.

Or the other case is that the guy is actually an MC making excuses to stall progress with the Li for at least 10 updates, or 3 Patreon support milestones.
 

BL4Z3ST0RM

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Played through the first 2 days in this game or so, decided to start preparing to go to bed though as I was getting too tired to enjoy this game, Got sidetracked looking through the thread proper and am now... dissuaded from continuing the story, thanks to the shitstorm that seems to have been getting on in the thread...

People are talking about the sister getting "Corrupted" by the aunt, who herself is talked about possibly being some kind of pimp or whatever?

I have absolutely 0 interest in prostitution in any kind of story, be it "Getting it on" with a prostitute, or prostituting any of "My girls" out... (Or being the prostitute I suppose as well)... The whole topic of Prostitution seems to become quite prevalent later on in the game, which I would simply love to know wether or not it's going to be a larger part of the story?

(Please excuse me if my post made little to no sense, Trying to construct a proper sentence let alone a paragraph is quite hard on this low amount of energy)
 

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Played through the first 2 days in this game or so, decided to start preparing to go to bed though as I was getting too tired to enjoy this game, Got sidetracked looking through the thread proper and am now... dissuaded from continuing the story, thanks to the shitstorm that seems to have been getting on in the thread...

People are talking about the sister getting "Corrupted" by the aunt, who herself is talked about possibly being some kind of pimp or whatever?

I have absolutely 0 interest in prostitution in any kind of story, be it "Getting it on" with a prostitute, or prostituting any of "My girls" out... (Or being the prostitute I suppose as well)... The whole topic of Prostitution seems to become quite prevalent later on in the game, which I would simply love to know wether or not it's going to be a larger part of the story?

(Please excuse me if my post made little to no sense, Trying to construct a proper sentence let alone a paragraph is quite hard on this low amount of energy)
Depends who you want to believe.

I'm pretty sure none of the girls, will be pimped out. The aunt does some dodgy af and the girls working for her a little slutty. According to the dev it was done to give a porn logic, easy scene in the bathroom etc, but kind of backfired with a lot of fans hating it.

I'm sure the next update will clear up a lot, or at least I really hope it will, about the aunt and her dodgyness. Apart from the shit that went down with the whole aunts studio and her shady actions at the end, I don't think you have anything to worry about. At least I hope the dev learns from the failed studio and doesn't make the sister go all instathot because that will suck.

For now stick around and it should be good.
 

Dipper Pines

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Played through the first 2 days in this game or so, decided to start preparing to go to bed though as I was getting too tired to enjoy this game, Got sidetracked looking through the thread proper and am now... dissuaded from continuing the story, thanks to the shitstorm that seems to have been getting on in the thread...

People are talking about the sister getting "Corrupted" by the aunt, who herself is talked about possibly being some kind of pimp or whatever?

I have absolutely 0 interest in prostitution in any kind of story, be it "Getting it on" with a prostitute, or prostituting any of "My girls" out... (Or being the prostitute I suppose as well)... The whole topic of Prostitution seems to become quite prevalent later on in the game, which I would simply love to know wether or not it's going to be a larger part of the story?

(Please excuse me if my post made little to no sense, Trying to construct a proper sentence let alone a paragraph is quite hard on this low amount of energy)
Honestly, I would just play till the end of current content if I were you and see what you think for yourself.
 

BL4Z3ST0RM

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Depends who you want to believe.

I'm pretty sure none of the girls, will be pimped out. The aunt does some dodgy af and the girls working for her a little slutty. According to the dev it was done to give a porn logic, easy scene in the bathroom etc, but kind of backfired with a lot of fans hating it.

I'm sure the next update will clear up a lot, or at least I really hope it will, about the aunt and her dodgyness. Apart from the shit that went down with the whole aunts studio and her shady actions at the end, I don't think you have anything to worry about. At least I hope the dev learns from the failed studio and doesn't make the sister go all instathot because that will suck.

For now stick around and it should be good.
Thank you for the quick reply! And yeah, I hope the dev more or less leaves the sister alone in that regard, the slow-burn so far has been a bit jarring, but also made sense, and all the cockblocking for the sister to go further with the MC has been pretty well timed IMO...

I'm just hoping the Dev doesn't ruin this, so far GREAT story, that they've created...

Honestly, I would just play till the end of current content if I were you and see what you think for yourself.
Was planning on doing so anyways, Was just a bit scared with how everyone was almost writing their posts in a way that made it sound like my "Fears" had already come true :v

Again, Thanks to the both of you for such quick replies!
 
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