Ren'Py Dilemma of Devotion [Ch.2 Ep.2] [PulseHavenStudios]

[Shikharisfree]

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I am going to keep coming from time to time to bask in the satisfaction of people echoing what I've said even before it got published. Again and again and again, the simple things in life.

The reviewer is lying , Already have reported it and mods are looking into it as well much like an earlier fake review claiming it had ntr when it didn't.

Please check a reviewer's profile before accepting it as genuine , just a small note from a dev.

The game has added several time skip options other than bedroom.
Game has a go home button now
Game also has quest descriptions expanded as well.



If you still choose to be ignorant then I can't do much about that , have a good day and keep basking I guess.

 

[Shikharisfree]

I'll join you sir this game still suck with no real content

Thank you for playing.

 

[Shikharisfree]

Sorry... but couldn't keep silent about ..."BITUKA" Russian name!? (I haven't laughed so much in a long time). Its even not close to any of slavic names.. Maybe it's some kind of Indian name!? Or at least a common name among Africans!? But this is definitely a strange alien name for the Russian/or any other Slavs.
We even doesnt have female names start from B, besides: Bogdana and Bagryana(even this an old fashioned). Please.. rename poor character Choose from these, bro (if you read it Dev): "Anna/Anya, Angelika, Valeriya/Lera, Victoriya/Vica, Daria/Dasha, Tatiana/Tanya, Marina, Mila, Masha, Miroslava, Nika, Asya, Anastasiya/Nastya, Elena/Lena, Ekaterina/Katya, Irina/Ira.

And.. Muskaan - looks like a true native Indian........... yep.... (def NOT, absurd!).

Lol I knew this asset maker called Bituka and she was from russia , but alright I'll accept your judgement and perhaps give a girl rename patch if possible without ruining saves.


As for muskaan , don't you worry she becomes more and more indian the more time you spend.

 

[micojive]

How do you apply the phone fix? I started for the first time and cannot read olivia's messages because it glitches out. Brings up a different scene in the background and tries to advance past it messing everything up.

...Does the sandbox get better? Only having arrows to navigate is a giant pain in the ass, there isnt a map to tell you where to go, theres no obvious way to advance the time, there is no indicator telling you where characters are to find them...its like all the bad shit about sandboxes rolled into one game.

 

[Shikharisfree]

How do you apply the phone fix? I started for the first time and cannot read olivia's messages because it glitches out. Brings up a different scene in the background and tries to advance past it messing everything up.

...Does the sandbox get better? Only having arrows to navigate is a giant pain in the ass, there isnt a map to tell you where to go, theres no obvious way to advance the time, there is no indicator telling you where characters are to find them...its like all the bad shit about sandboxes rolled into one game.

Uhh replace the given file in this location for patch.

Dilemma-of-Devotion\game\events
Delete old rpyc file if exists there as well.


And yes we're improving sandbox don't worry , we'll add a map button instead whenever you're inside a structure so you don't have to manually go out of the location each time.

I believe a go home button is already there.

Also most characters remain in their places as they are , until or unless they are specifically given in quest to be someplace else

Example being most girls are at university class but if jane's quest says " go meet her at library" then that'll be where she is.

 

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The reviewer is lying , Already have reported it and mods are looking into it as well much like an earlier fake review claiming it had ntr when it didn't.

And where is lie exactly? I played previous version to the end and it was exactly as he described. If anyone is lying here, its person who puts false tags, if f95 game version doesnt have tagged content then those tags should be removed, here doesnt matter what content present in your patreon version and should be listed only present tags in your public version.

Lol I knew this asset maker called Bituka and she was from russia , but alright I'll accept your judgement and perhaps give a girl rename patch if possible without ruining saves.

Im from eastern Europe and can assure you that I never heard anything even close here as name Bituka. She could get this name from other culture, but its definetely not canon slavic or russian name.

 

[Shikharisfree]

And where is lie exactly? I played previous version to the end and it was exactly as he described. If anyone is lying here, its person who puts false tags, if f95 game version doesnt have tagged content then they should be removed, here doesnt matter what content present in your patreon version and should be listed only present tags in your public version.

Im from eastern Europe and can assure you that I never heard anything even close here as name Bituka. She could get this name from other culture, but its definetely not canon slavic or russian name.

His lie is the game not havintg time skip other than bedroom.

It exists in about 5 places of the game.

His lie is about quest descriptions not giving time

Which they do , we even tell where and when to intearct with that girl.

Thirdly , the game 's tags are checked and approved by admins and moderators , so pretty sure we're clear on that.

With that said I understand what you mean , dude you played the vn part right?

Apparently i thin even you liked it.

Do you know why you liked it? Buildup , that's why.

We want to do justice be it corruption , loyalty , romance.

We want all of it to make some sense at least .

The sex patreon scenes are merely there for those that already support the project and just wanna see some babes shagged.

I can explain further but if you just want to hate on me because we choose to give the paying customers an scene that's not even part of the story then I can't do much.

That's all.

 

[Bella Von Halen]

sex scenes paywall?

 

[micojive]

Also...whats with the things that are just hard missable? You have quests that require perfect loyalty, which I havent stumbled into a way to work on raising yet, and scenes that are gated behind random corruption. Like if you choose to do the Megan stuff before you have 15 corruption...thats it? You just miss it?

So far the start of the game was good, characters are attractive, but everything about the sandbox portion has been miserable to play.

 

[Shikharisfree]

Also...whats with the things that are just hard missable? You have quests that require perfect loyalty, which I havent stumbled into a way to work on raising yet, and scenes that are gated behind random corruption. Like if you choose to do the Megan stuff before you have 15 corruption...thats it? You just miss it?

So far the start of the game was good, characters are attractive, but everything about the sandbox portion has been miserable to play.

Uh okay so perfect loyalty is like 100 basically , that is purely for

Pure therapy aka if you have 100 loyalty you'll get a different therapy but if less than shorter therapy but if corrupted and less loyalty then corrupted therapy where he talks about sex instead.

Pure loyalty also has the canon story , aka the story mode like the vn prologue was.

Also there are utlimatums actually , no you don't miss out on megan as long as you've visited her , but if you refuse to massage her then yes she is mostly locked.

Please do consider giving what you'd like in sandbox , if it's not hard to add / ruins old saves we can consider it.

So map button is already in works for example , but remember we can't clog the screen with too many icons because then the neatness of the UI goes away.

 

[Shikharisfree]

sex scenes paywall?

Not in game ones , No.

 

[micojive]

Uh okay so perfect loyalty is like 100 basically , that is purely for

Pure therapy aka if you have 100 loyalty you'll get a different therapy but if less than shorter therapy but if corrupted and less loyalty then corrupted therapy where he talks about sex instead.

Pure loyalty also has the canon story , aka the story mode like the vn prologue was.

Also there are utlimatums actually , no you don't miss out on megan as long as you've visited her , but if you refuse to massage her then yes she is mostly locked.

Please do consider giving what you'd like in sandbox , if it's not hard to add / ruins old saves we can consider it.

So map button is already in works for example , but remember we can't clog the screen with too many icons because then the neatness of the UI goes away.

Well for loyalty, is there any way to raise it? For example I'm at 92 right now and on the balcony you fail a 95 check. Can you just never hit that scene then? Or is the expected game loop to get the "true" cannon story the player just ignores everything? Because that doesnt sound like a fun game to play.

And for Megan, if you choose to message her, and try to go further without 15 corruption it will not let you select that option and when the events done it just says thats everything for this character, so you just miss that scene too. Can you not go back and try again with more corruption?

Shit like that makes me think the best way to play the game is just with a mod so you can adjust your levels as needed if the game wont let you do it in world.

As for the sandbox, some things you have already mentioned. There needs to be quick travel, period. If the expectation is a player has to go to the bedroom to sleep every night and wake up there, there has to be a way to get back to where you were. It should be, click on door, click on arrow to living room, click on arrow to entrance, click on arrow for correct street, hover random buildings until you find the school, click on arrow to classroom area, click on classroom...just to get back to working on scenes with characters.

There should be a side option that just lets you go to x persons house, goes to school, go to therapy, etc etc without clicking through 10 arrows every single time.

And advance time. Just add an advance time button, or let a player click on "afternnoon, or morning" to advance to the next stage. Its silly to have to go to bed and rest to advance the time.

As for UI concerns...straight up good sandbox games get around this problem. For fast traveling things like Timestamps have collapsible menus so a player can either use the arrows or fast travel.

 

[MixQQ]

sex scenes paywall?

sorry Bella but #team Nami!!

 

[Shikharisfree]

sorry Bella but #team Nami!!

replied to the wrong thread I think

 

[Shikharisfree]

Well for loyalty, is there any way to raise it? For example I'm at 92 right now and on the balcony you fail a 95 check. Can you just never hit that scene then? Or is the expected game loop to get the "true" cannon story the player just ignores everything? Because that doesnt sound like a fun game to play.

And for Megan, if you choose to message her, and try to go further without 15 corruption it will not let you select that option and when the events done it just says thats everything for this character, so you just miss that scene too. Can you not go back and try again with more corruption?

Shit like that makes me think the best way to play the game is just with a mod so you can adjust your levels as needed if the game wont let you do it in world.

As for the sandbox, some things you have already mentioned. There needs to be quick travel, period. If the expectation is a player has to go to the bedroom to sleep every night and wake up there, there has to be a way to get back to where you were. It should be, click on door, click on arrow to living room, click on arrow to entrance, click on arrow for correct street, hover random buildings until you find the school, click on arrow to classroom area, click on classroom...just to get back to working on scenes with characters.

There should be a side option that just lets you go to x persons house, goes to school, go to therapy, etc etc without clicking through 10 arrows every single time.

And advance time. Just add an advance time button, or let a player click on "afternnoon, or morning" to advance to the next stage. Its silly to have to go to bed and rest to advance the time.

As for UI concerns...straight up good sandbox games get around this problem. For fast traveling things like Timestamps have collapsible menus so a player can either use the arrows or fast travel.

Loyalty can be increased once you clear episode 2 , church gets unlocked after that.

However due note that once lost it cannot be put back to 100 again , it's the core message of you not being loyal to her memories

It's also a way to let people know story mode exclusive girls are story mode and sandbox are sandbox.


and no even if you didn't massage her at all there is still one more event , but that will be the ultimatum event where you have to decide with corruption.


As for the adjust time setting , the problem with that is it has the chance to ruin saves.

We had it enabled initially but timing based quests are very easy to be fucked , ps though no you don't have to just go home and sleep to pass time.

You can visit gas station

You can talk to any girl in any timing to pass time

you can do any other event at home as well to pass time not just bed.

you can also teach in class to pass time

we'll add even more options such as the next update adding photoshoots to spend time too.

 

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His lie is the game not havintg time skip other than bedroom.

It exists in about 5 places of the game.

His lie is about quest descriptions not giving time

Its like -+10% of his review and I didnt have timeskips in previous version nowhere else than in my bedroom and as I remember, few quests didnt had detailed descriptions or had wrong descriptions.

Thirdly , the game 's tags are checked and approved by admins and moderators , so pretty sure we're clear on that.

Well its weird then. Vast majority of games here lists tags for curently present ingame content and a lot of people (including me) build their expectations from curent version based on them. I just think that you made disserive for your game image, by getting approved to add curently nonexistent tags.

Apparently i thin even you liked it.

Do you know why you liked it? Buildup , that's why.

We want to do justice be it corruption , loyalty , romance.

We want all of it to make some sense at least .

I didnt even thought to hide the fact that I liked vn prologue, but when i got to sandbox everything turned to mess, from technical aspect and writing, to general logic.

The sex patreon scenes are merely there for those that already support the project and just wanna see some babes shagged.

The problem here not that your public version doesnt have adult content to this moment, the problem here that I as user saw your game with corourful tags and already built my expectations based on that. And when I spent my time and by finishing game, I didnt saw anything from promised tags, it just felt like scumming.

I can explain further but if you just want to hate on me because we choose to give the paying customers an scene that's not even part of the story then I can't do much.

No hate, no trolling etc. so relax man) Just speaking my mind about game and that all.

 

[Shikharisfree]

Its like -+10% of his review and I didnt have timeskips in previous version nowhere else than in my bedroom and as I remember, few quests didnt had detailed descriptions or had wrong descriptions.

Well its weird then. Vast majority of games here lists tags for curently present ingame content and a lot of people (including me) build their expectations from curent version based on them. I just think that you made disserive for your game image, by getting approved to add curently nonexistent tags.

I didnt even thought to hide the fact that I liked vn prologue, but when i got to sandbox everything turned to mess, from technical aspect and writing, to general logic.

The problem here not that your public version doesnt have adult content to this moment, the problem here that I as user saw your game with corourful tags and already built my expectations based on that. And when I spent my time and by finishing game, I didnt saw anything from promised tags, it just felt like scumming.

No hate, no trolling etc. so relax man) Just speaking my mind about game and that all.

Okay great thank you for clearing it , anyway uhh yeah don't worry.. we're gonna give top tier content most liekly even better than the patreon scenes in the game but it takes time to do on the quality scale we have.

As for again his "review" , just check his profile and you'll see exactly what I mean.


Lastly , we do have a planned tags section in dev note.


Anyway , I don't get your "writing" being ruined though since it's the same writer , the same events.

Only difference is that the characters are now given to you instead of us shovcing them on you.

An example of this is the poll results , now as you can see kimiko and zoey and claire and etc had won, what that means is people don't give a fuck about eugene and stuff hence w stopped developing for her for now.

If we did a full fledged vn mode then I need that to have content first in both aspects not just porn , episode 2 is in rendering rn but it takes time.

 

[micojive]

Loyalty can be increased once you clear episode 2 , church gets unlocked after that.

However due note that once lost it cannot be put back to 100 again , it's the core message of you not being loyal to her memories

It's also a way to let people know story mode exclusive girls are story mode and sandbox are sandbox.


and no even if you didn't massage her at all there is still one more event , but that will be the ultimatum event where you have to decide with corruption.


As for the adjust time setting , the problem with that is it has the chance to ruin saves.

We had it enabled initially but timing based quests are very easy to be fucked , ps though no you don't have to just go home and sleep to pass time.

You can visit gas station

You can talk to any girl in any timing to pass time

you can do any other event at home as well to pass time not just bed.

you can also teach in class to pass time

we'll add even more options such as the next update adding photoshoots to spend time too.

Well its your game, but imo the Loyalty thing is just...not fun gameplay. You are talking like the sandbox and VN modes are like two different options but they are not. Like the player is forced into the sandbox mode, you can lose Loyalty almost immediately just by looking at some chicks boobs and you are just fucked from a story standpoint after that? Kind of seems insane to me.

This is my first playthrough of the game, and for me there was zero indication that loyalty would be the driving force of the game. If anything for me it felt like the opposite, that the player is supposed to be moving on with their life and getting over the past.

From how you are posting it seems like the sandbox is all non cannon stuff...which is just baffling to me. If its non cannon, dont force the player to do it.

Is your intended way to play the game to just have players ignore everyone? Never see any content in the game? Because thats how it feels. That there is your "correct" way, which is pure loyalty to a girl not in your life anymore, never even looking at another girl. Or the "wrong" way which is getting over the past, having new relationships but never being able to move on in the main story.

And again, locking events behind corruption levels or loyalty levels without the ability to go back and get the scenes again is just a mistake. If the best way to play the game is to use a mod, then something was done wrong. You shouldnt be able to accidentally trigger a scene that you dont have the requirements for and just lose it forever.

I'll be totally honest. After getting about half the girls to a "content complete" point, having no sex scenes at all, missing two scenes because I didnt have enough loyalty for one and didnt have enough corruption for the other, I just quit and deleted the game. Its not fun doing all these go here, go there quests only to either have nothing but a dead end or not enough stats to see something.

 

[Shikharisfree]

Well its your game, but imo the Loyalty thing is just...not fun gameplay. You are talking like the sandbox and VN modes are like two different options but they are not. Like the player is forced into the sandbox mode, you can lose Loyalty almost immediately just by looking at some chicks boobs and you are just fucked from a story standpoint after that? Kind of seems insane to me.

This is my first playthrough of the game, and for me there was zero indication that loyalty would be the driving force of the game. If anything for me it felt like the opposite, that the player is supposed to be moving on with their life and getting over the past.

From how you are posting it seems like the sandbox is all non cannon stuff...which is just baffling to me. If its non cannon, dont force the player to do it.

Is your intended way to play the game to just have players ignore everyone? Never see any content in the game? Because thats how it feels. That there is your "correct" way, which is pure loyalty to a girl not in your life anymore, never even looking at another girl. Or the "wrong" way which is getting over the past, having new relationships but never being able to move on in the main story.

And again, locking events behind corruption levels or loyalty levels without the ability to go back and get the scenes again is just a mistake. If the best way to play the game is to use a mod, then something was done wrong. You shouldnt be able to accidentally trigger a scene that you dont have the requirements for and just lose it forever.

No no no no and no.

You're missing it ,the sandbox itself has story too.. you can ignore the "canon story" that requires loyalty and still have straight up endings with the sandbox girls.

The canon story revolves around it being a full vn mode like the prologue , so girls like lana , and the rest in the game's cover and more if you see are story exclusives to that mode.

Sandbox you can keep your loyalty too , girls like jane , kimiko , rachel are also there.

Loyalty is a factor of kiara as well , I don't wanna spoil too much but for example during quests even if your loyalty is high then kiara appears within events telling you the girl you're hanging out with is good for you for you or not as well.


You wanna go corrupt route , you can , no stopping there and it'll keep going until she's on your dick.


So just to tldr it

The sandbox itself has various endings depending on which girls you keep going for and with them ,

There are then girls you can covnert into romance as well

then there are girls who will corrupt you


All of this is sandbox , you do not need loyalty for this but you do need corruption to be less in case of girls like zoey jane kimiko and rachel.

Also I said it already I'm not sure why you're not noticing but we give ultimatum options , once you visit megan it is evidently clear that she is a corruption girl, now in next updates we'll give that ultimatum for you to decide whether you stop this or go ahead with it.


Mod will only ruin your story flow , nothing stops you from it otherwise.


An example of this can be..

Grabbing claire's ass in a photoshoot and then being sad in a therapy doesn't make sense.

It's done in order to make the game to have consequences based on your choices.

 

[micojive]

No no no no and no.

You're missing it ,the sandbox itself has story too.. you can ignore the "canon story" that requires loyalty and still have straight up endings with the sandbox girls.

The canon story revolves around it being a full vn mode like the prologue , so girls like lana , and the rest in the game's cover and more if you see are story exclusives to that mode.

Sandbox you can keep your loyalty too , girls like jane , kimiko , rachel are also there.

Loyalty is a factor of kiara as well , I don't wanna spoil too much but for example during quests even if your loyalty is high then kiara appears within events telling you the girl you're hanging out with is good for you for you or not as well.


You wanna go corrupt route , you can , no stopping there and it'll keep going until she's on your dick.


So just to tldr it

The sandbox itself has various endings depending on which girls you keep going for and with them ,

There are then girls you can covnert into romance as well

then there are girls who will corrupt you


All of this is sandbox , you do not need loyalty for this but you do need corruption to be less in case of girls like zoey jane kimiko and rachel.

Also I said it already I'm not sure why you're not noticing but we give ultimatum options , once you visit megan it is evidently clear that she is a corruption girl, now in next updates we'll give that ultimatum for you to decide whether you stop this or go ahead with it.


Mod will only ruin your story flow , nothing stops you from it otherwise.


An example of this can be..

Grabbing claire's ass in a photoshoot and then being sad in a therapy doesn't make sense.

It's done in order to make the game to have consequences based on your choices.

Alright, I guess the game just isnt for me then. As at the end of the day limiting the girls to some arbitrary corruption/loyalty thing just does not make sense in game and after an hour or so still not having fun it was enough for me. Gl going forward.