RPGM Downfall: A Story of Corruption [v0.14.0] [Aperture Studio]

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magaclaawe

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I refused one option with the tea at the start of the game and now i dont have points to do anything.
 

Moltn

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I refused one option with the tea at the start of the game and now i dont have points to do anything.
Here are some saves that you can use if you want. (Nothing in 0.09 has been done because I'm skipping that update.) There are 5 saves and I honestly don't remember what was saved on each one, but you got options, I guess?
 

Joe Steel

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I refused one option with the tea at the start of the game and now i dont have points to do anything.
Yeah, one of the really poor design decisions by the developer was making the quests depend on one another. If you end the old man quest earlier than the developer wants the player to (turning him over to the madam, for instance), you are locked out of much of the remaining content in the game, even that unrelated to the old man.

If you don't follow the max corruption route, the game becomes unplayable. Many of the decisions are thus not what they appear to be; they are, instead, decisions on whether to ruin your play-through or not.
 
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MWolf55

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Uh the title literally says, a "story of corruption" and your surprised when it has less material on the straght and narrow path? The story by design is made to play the corruption route. Most others I have played in the past, if you choose the more straight path, that's exactly what you get, less content. More reliable, rightous people don't do lewd things, lol. I am not trying to be a smart alleck here, but common sense says the more corrupted you are, the more you'll do. Thus, more content.

I get the part of it being tied together. But again, all the "corrupt" type games I played, you have to gain corruption points to get certain material and unlock certain parts. That may mean you have to play it through a couple of times to see everything. It's pretty common with this type of game. Like the del.mar said, create a separate save near the part you need to unlock, use the editor to up your corruption, then load it to continue playing.
 

Joe Steel

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Uh the title literally says, a "story of corruption" and your surprised when it has less material on the straght and narrow path? The story by design is made to play the corruption route. Most others I have played in the past, if you choose the more straight path, that's exactly what you get, less content. More reliable, rightous people don't do lewd things, lol. I am not trying to be a smart alleck here, but common sense says the more corrupted you are, the more you'll do. Thus, more content.
My issue is not that there is less material on, say, the old man route if you end the relationship with the old man, but that ending the relationship also prevents you from progressing on other routes that have nothing to do with the old man. It makes the decision to end a quest you are not interested into, secretly, a decision to end your game, and that's not good game design. Good game design allows the player to choose to pursue what interests them, and sideline what doesn't.
 
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Pr0nmanreview

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Uh the title literally says, a "story of corruption" and your surprised when it has less material on the straght and narrow path? The story by design is made to play the corruption route. Most others I have played in the past, if you choose the more straight path, that's exactly what you get, less content. More reliable, rightous people don't do lewd things, lol. I am not trying to be a smart alleck here, but common sense says the more corrupted you are, the more you'll do. Thus, more content.

I get the part of it being tied together. But again, all the "corrupt" type games I played, you have to gain corruption points to get certain material and unlock certain parts. That may mean you have to play it through a couple of times to see everything. It's pretty common with this type of game. Like the del.mar said, create a separate save near the part you need to unlock, use the editor to up your corruption, then load it to continue playing.
There are many ways a story of corruption can play out that can allow for multiple routes. Just because you may choose to not completely go off the deep slut end doesn’t mean you can’t become more sexual/broken/street smart based on given choices. What you’re defending is lazy games that on the surface appear to be giving you choice but in reality are linear and barely games. Also being more straight and narrow doesn’t mean you can’t corrupt her in different ways. She could be forced to steal if money becomes debt in the game and you fall behind on payments. She could end up hurting others in the gang path, not all corruption is sexual. The possibilities are endless and you’re limiting them based on past experiences with other games for no reason. I have higher hopes for this one personally.
 

Alea iacta est

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There are many ways a story of corruption can play out that can allow for multiple routes. Just because you may choose to not completely go off the deep slut end doesn’t mean you can’t become more sexual/broken/street smart based on given choices. What you’re defending is lazy games that on the surface appear to be giving you choice but in reality are linear and barely games. Also being more straight and narrow doesn’t mean you can’t corrupt her in different ways. She could be forced to steal if money becomes debt in the game and you fall behind on payments. She could end up hurting others in the gang path, not all corruption is sexual. The possibilities are endless and you’re limiting them based on past experiences with other games for no reason. I have higher hopes for this one personally.
Dude, it is porn, not a bloody PhD project.

Take easy, if you like wank otherwise move over
 

Pr0nmanreview

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Dude, it is porn, not a bloody PhD project.

Take easy, if you like wank otherwise move over
This is a forum to discuss porn games… what’s wrong with critiquing and wanting good games along with a wank? Am I only supposed to say "mmm good game me cum hard" and not discuss things…I guess you would know better cause I’m new around here…
 

Joe Steel

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Dude, it is porn, not a bloody PhD project.

Take easy, if you like wank otherwise move over
Chill, man. This is just a discussion board discussing things. No sense cursing over someone's comments. I'm guessing "Take easy, if you like wank otherwise move over" meant something in your mind, but the words don't add up to any meaning in your post.
 
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Alea iacta est

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This is a forum to discuss porn games… what’s wrong with critiquing and wanting good games along with a wank? Am I only supposed to say "mmm good game me cum hard" and not discuss things…I guess you would know better cause I’m new around here…
You should manage your expectations better.

Some of these Devs are not fully professional and often very young even to understand about real sex and women.

So be happy that this game is kind of wankable and yes, the path is always the same if you want to see as much as sex scenes/situations you need the MC behave like a slut, there is no sophistication.

I learnt this years ago... That is why I tell you... Manage your expectations in order to don't get disappointed.
 

Pr0nmanreview

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You should manage your expectations better.

Some of these Devs are not fully professional and often very young even to understand about real sex and women.

So be happy that this game is kind of wankable and yes, the path is always the same if you want to see as much as sex scenes/situations you need the MC behave like a slut, there is no sophistication.

I learnt this years ago... That is why I tell you... Manage your expectations in order to don't get disappointed.
Who says I’m not? I know the general quality of games, I’m just giving a simple critique and suggestions when I feel like it. To me it sounds like defeatism. Pretty much sounds like you’re saying "Since some games are generic and never usually try hard then it’s not worth saying anything but praise when you like a sex scene".

Also no, you misinterpreted what I said if that’s your takeaway. It doesn’t take a PHD to write two or three paths with some variety and different outcomes. Maybe the less corrupt path leads you to a more consensual or free spirited character. Maybe it mainly keeps you off storylines (like the old man) that you may not be fond* of, but in the end gives you a happier ending or at least one that is the best of both worlds. Who knows the possibilities are endless since it’s fiction. The path doesn’t have to be the same is my point. Maybe it will be but it certainly can do more with corruption and the game is still very much in development so we’ll see.
 
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Moltn

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Ngl, think I could done without the office job. imo just don't like that 'route'. *shrugs*
 

Pr0nmanreview

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I like the VN as it is with some exceptions but there are no real choices to speak of, afaik there is no morality path to speak of and no branching. The choices are limited to what one wants to see or avoid. So yeah, it's porn, not some PhD essay about choices.
It’s a porn game and the creator themselves describe "This is an adult visual novel about a girl who just lost her job and is unsure about her life. Now it's up to you how you want to shape her destiny. Based on your choice, she can become one of the upstanding citizens of the society or she can sink at the bottom. "

Y’all are wild, I simply quoted a guy and explained why both paths can be valid with corruption being the focus and got multiple "iTs JuSt pOrN BRo" responses lol. No one’s asking for this to become a tripple-A titled game like Heavy Rain or something.
 

Moltn

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It’s a porn game and the creator themselves describe "This is an adult visual novel about a girl who just lost her job and is unsure about her life. Now it's up to you how you want to shape her destiny. Based on your choice, she can become one of the upstanding citizens of the society or she can sink at the bottom. "

Y’all are wild, I simply quoted a guy and explained why both paths can be valid with corruption being the focus and got multiple "iTs JuSt pOrN BRo" responses lol. No one’s asking for this to become a tripple-A titled game like Heavy Rain or something.
BuT iT's PoRn, BrUh..

Okay, being honest now. I believe the game would've been better if all the routes weren't connected to each other. It's honestly stupid. "You need to complete 'X' amount of this route before you can continue 'X' route." I do get it, you want the player to explore everything that is possible in the game, but being soft locked due to refusing to do a certain route is pathetic. I enjoy my freedom in games and being able to chase routes instead of being spoon fed them by force.

Also, I see what you meant and I like that idea more than just being forced to do all routes. It would be nice if the corruption could come from different areas throughout the game. It's rather sad that most games end up the same way like a cookie-cutter. "Oh, want to build up corruption? [insert sexual actions here]." For once, why can't a PORN game have other ways of corrupting the player or other characters? It would give the game more life instead of acting like every other porn game.

By the way, before somebody even says, "If you don't like the game, then don't play it" comment -- it's not that I don't enjoy the game, it's more of "why make the game force the player into things that the player doesn't want to be forced into?" type of comment/feeling about the game. I'm still going to play it regardless, but the route(s) I don't enjoy will just be skipped so fast that the game crashes. (rofl, yes, I mean enabling speed hack via cheat engine.)
 

MWolf55

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Not defending his game. Just pointing out it is typical. And yes I would love if it were more complex and had more routes. Some games have that, some do not. It ultimately comes down to how much time the creator wants to invest in the game. I have also seen some creators that will go back and alter the game for better play. It is a game still in progress. Give the creator some time and maybe suggestions and he might do just that.
 

Ven95

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One should keep in mind the game is still in development, and as you know with a little life experience, things you planned out and thought would work great, they can turn out to be flawed in ways you didn't anticipate (aka worked better in your head). Like in this case the need to have rather high corruption to get to certain extra steps.

There is still time to adjust this later, with all the questlines being able to be played, the amount of corruption you need for certain steps can be a lot lower than the current maximum amount possible. At this point it might not even be possible to finetune this since you would have to change it with every new thing you add.
 
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