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This might be a bug that someone else encountered already, or maybe I am just dumb...

There is no option to coninue after I finished Nanami's scene in the nightclub. After fucking her (and getting seen by the crossdressing prostitute), the screen goes to the 'chapter select' screen with Dr. Amana, for a lack of a better word.

Every portrait is lightened up, but nothing is clickable (besides the planner in the corner). Everywhere I press the mouse, the screen turns dark for a second before returning to the same thing.

Am I too dumb to play this game, or is it a legitimate bug?
When you reach the point that all the character icons are dim, you've reached the end for the moment. I'm going to work on a better way of flagging this players, I was just so far up against the wall with all the other changes, I pushed it back for a later update. Sorry for the confusion.

Awww... I read "pregnancy notifications" somewhere, and thought the game was relatively developed. I haven't encountered those too, or at least don't see how to activate them...

Anyhow, thank you for the answer.
At this point it is possible to get characters pregnant, but it may be another couple of chapters before it gets introduced into the story and we start seeing swollen bellies and inflated titties. Bear with me a bit and we'll get there. But the mechanic is in place now.

Yes, thank you. I understand what "friend-zoning' is. :rolleyes:

I thought it might be a misunderstanding of the term / mislabeling of the stat by RomanHume or something. The black options are typically kill switches, which is why it's strange to have purple also do this (although perhaps progressively so). And, as I mentioned before, since purple used to do nothing (positive or negative), the change was strange.
Purple answers increase red and blue evenly. Currently the mechanic does do this, but I forgot to include a notification flag for purple, so it was defaulting to "friend zone" even though it wasn't raising the friendzone stat. It's fixed and added to the bug patch.

Just to add my 2 cents on that, I just did the following:

Bathtub sex scene with Emily - 3x kissing, 3x playing with tits, 3x playing with pussy, and then fucking until the game decided that it's time for MC to cum (did it that way before the change since I noticed that it makes a difference in dialogue on how much effort you put into pleasuring her) ---> the moment that happened I got a notification in the top left corner that Emily is pregnant now... ...so I assume that you can influence the probability of impregnation as well...
As all of the sex scenes get updated to use the sex menu system, increasing the probability of pregnancy will rely solely on how many times you blow your load into her (this does not include the butt, so don't ask!)

ok this is odd the waifu ask me iff i whanted to join her in the bathtub and i join and its hate that's really stupid
If you picked the red dialogue choices and talked to her all shitty like, then that can happen. If you picked the purple options, it actually increases the red and blue numbers by the same amount.

Dont know if some one said it, but people keep calling me roger even tho I changed the name
I had to go through every file and make changes so that the name appears. It's almost guaranteed I missed some. If you can give me a screen shot, or sample of the dialogue, I'll be happy to look into it.

TARGET DECIMATED.
QUICK GET THE WAMBULANCE. He's gonna need intensive treatment to recover from that flame. God damn, I like your style! <3
I try to keep the cut of my jib in Bristol fashion! Wait...the fuck am I saying? Anyway, thanks mate!

Don't be mislead though, I'm a very accessible developer. And I take criticism and feedback very well. But when people just show up to tell me to work harder or faster, they get the broadside. Ok, seriously, I don't know what's with all the nautical talk. It might be time for bed.

Cheers mate!

well this update was definitely worth the wait. you did a very good job with it developer(y). again good job
I truly appreciate you saying so! As always, if there is room for improvement, let me know and I'll see what I can do. Cheers!

Thumbs up on the update!
Thank you for playing! Salute!

how do i play the new content i started a new game but ive played all the content brfore nothing new
The second half of Nanami's second chapter is where the new content resides. It's after the tranny/non-tranny material.

In general: as long as a game isn't completed, it's nice for developers to care about saves from previous versions still working, but if they don't, they just don't, deal with it or stop playing games that are still in development...
And it's not like I go out of my way to break saves. It's just an unfortunately part of the process. Even large games like Summertime Saga don't promise functioning saves across versions. I try, I do.

I think an important thing to note about this update, it's the first I did on my own. I had a lot I wanted to update and in a way, it's a good thing I did because it gave me an opportunity to go back and really scrub through the code that my predecessor put together. I'm now very familiar with the code from start to finish having done all that work.

and for what it's worth, I did try to think as far ahead as possible and make a few changes that would hopefully preserve saves in the future, but experience has clearly demonstrated it's not something I can promise, and so I don't. (Maybe I should put something like that in the OP).

Alright, just play games from developers who know how to work properly with Renpy.
Since most developers do not pay attention to the simplest renpy rules, you should simply delete and ignore these games.

Developers who start a revamp in the middle of the game should be avoided anyway. Is only wasted lifetime
I can't tell if you're taking shots or not. I would certainly hate to be accused of wasted lifetime.

If saves are broken shouldn't the game delete previous saves or create a new folder? Ugh not going to bother with this update a small update that breaks saves for like the 4th time yet again.
I wasn't aware the saves were broken until I downloaded the update and tried to load a save otherwise I wouldn't bothered. I then took a look at the rev log and realized I had to restart the game.

In any case I created a small guide on how to toss the now corrupted saves. Hopefully it helps someone.
It happens but when it's like the 4th time a dev corrupts your save for a miniscule amount of content it's time to move on. This caught me unawares because there was no warning in the main post like usual so I didn't catch it.

In anycase I've spent enough time on this thread it's time to move on. Best of luck to the dev on his game
I did my best to be clear after the last update that I cannot promise functioning saves. Originally the issue lied in the renpy call stack and some label misalignment. I tried working several angles to manually modify the stack, but this just introduced additional bugs and problems. Very serious effort was made but eventually I had to make the hard choice to move on and continue working on the game.

All of this code I inherited from my previous team member. During this update, time was spent not only familiarizing myself with the game's inner workings, but breaking apart Renpy and learning the limitations of what I can do inside there. I have tried to be as forward looking as possible now that I"m the only person writing the story and doing the coding, so my hope is that future saves will be preserved based on the updates I made now to promote future compatibility. But I know from experience that this isn't a promise I can make because at the end of the day, I'm sometimes at the mercy of Renpy's mechanics.

I do apologize for letting you down and I'm sorry to hear about your disappointment.

It's because I can't promise functional saves that I implemented a way for players to jump directly to new scenes and content. One of my next goals is to work on a character modification panel so that you can manipulate individual character stats. My hope is that between the scene selector and the character modifier, it might help ease the pain in future cases where saves break, but at the moment it's the best I can do while continuing to push forward with the game.

I hope you'll come back and check things out in the future. Hopefully by then we'll have hit a stable plateau where the mechanics are solid and all I'm adding between updates is new story.

Sincerest apologies mate! Salute!
 

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Love the new addition to the game, the new UI is awesome. I was worth having to play again for all those additions. I especially liked the pet name, pretty much eliminated the need for an IC patch.

Regarding pregnancy, from what I can tell it’s random. Sometimes is takes, sometimes it doesn’t. However, it never seems to trigger in regards to Nanami, is she not an option?

I’m not sure if anyone already reported it, but I got one exception when you’re having sex with Lita and you’re on top and you choose cum, I get this:
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RomanHume

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Soooo... If I played with IP, I have to wait the new one or I will have traceback on loading?
I...um....hrm....what?

Thanks for this update RomanHume and the share, you guy's are awesome ;)
My pleasure!

saves aren't working. instructions on Scene Jumper are vague.
Go to the planner in the upper right corner. Open up the Options Tab, Select Interface Option, and Turn on Cheat Mode.
Pick a character, pick a scene. That's pretty much all there is to it.

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Hit this traceback error after hitting move on during the Lita sx scene.
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Damn, I inverted the method call. I just fixed it for the bug patch. Thanks for alerting to me that one! My apologies.

well this is the second time i have had to restart this game but god dam it its worth it . keep up the good work RomanHume
I am sorry that had you to restart, but I'm glad you enjoyed it! Hopefully the music added a little something different to the play through.

The Scene jumper is broken. It shows the doctors image and the text choices for the scene without loading images. Also have an issue with tiny images in janes sex scene
yeah, the sex scene problem is because the resolution was raised and the animations weren't. I'll have to work on that.

As far as the Scene jumper not working, can you give me some more detail? Which character or scene were you trying to access when it failed? I'm happy to track down the bug, just need a little more information so I know where to start.

I don't care if the saves don't work, it is always a pleasure to replay Dr. Amana.
Thank you so much for saying so. Hopefully now that the code is mine and mine alone, I can try and keep a better eye on the future and prevent save breaks. Fingers crossed.

About Futa/Trans, is it implemented already? What are the sex options? Dick & Dick or Dick & Vagina? Is it avoidable?
Yes it is in there. At the moment it is predominately anal and rimming, and yes, you can turn on Transgender content and still avoid it. So turning it on does not make it automatic. (In fact to my great surprise a number of players have reached out and told me that they turned it on and avoided it even though they don't like trans content because they found Lola to be a more interesting character).

Search for Lola and that shall answer your questions.

Anyway i don't mind starting again...hehehe
Just need to wait until next week since i already have a backlog of games. :p
Damn, I know. I saw a number of games I like drop updates this week. Like a wonderful avalanche of porn! I'm going to pretend you're saving mine because you want the best for last. :p

Seriously though, I look forward to your feedback when you get around to it. Cheers mate!

Getting same error as posted by RomanHume and it just dies.

-Ahh found a workaround . - If I hide the menu on the left corner then it allows me to move on.
Can you elaborate on this error so I can make sure the bug gets squashed in the code? Any info is helpful mate. Cheers.

Does the game have an android version?
Not at the moment. Having issues with compiling an Android build without errors. I'm going to spend some time Monday researching the problem.

I think there is a bug or a mistake.

1st scene with Emily in the tub has "Join in the tub" option that adds "friend zone +2" (i imagine this should be neutral/purple aka no change to blue or red points) yet when you check the stats "hate" is marked.

Also animation are not in fullscreen even tho the game is in fullscreen and yeah custom name and surname is not working sometime... i see im not the only one that has this.
Animations were previously rendered at a lower resolution and I failed to notice. Purple actually increases red and blue by the same amount. But there is an error in the notification system where it says it increased friend zone (even though it didn't).

As for the custom name not working, if you have the time and are inclined to do so, I'd appreciate any info you have on where that is occurring so I can go in and fix it. There was a lot of code to update and I"m sure a few slipped between the cracks. Cheers mate!

Man, feels bad being pretty much only interested in Amanda, Cassie and Jane. At least we did get some tasty Jane action a while back, just cant wait to get it with the two other girls. :love:
If it helps keep you up at night, know that I'm working on Amanda's update. It's 10 scenes in total (so far), and does include an option for intercourse. So...mull on that. :D

Hi, even if it's not the thougts of everyone i think a dev incest patch should be released to spice up the game, however the game is nice at the moment, the three girls are so hot omg, good continuation. cheers
As the dev, I cannot release an incest patch. That would get in biiiiiig trouble. But others have. And alternatively, a clever use of in game features could help partially alleviate that problem. But I'll let someone else tell you about that because I can't be seen promoting that sort of thing.
 

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Love the new addition to the game, the new UI is awesome. I was worth having to play again for all those additions. I especially liked the pet name, pretty much eliminated the need for an IC patch.

Regarding pregnancy, from what I can tell it’s random. Sometimes is takes, sometimes it doesn’t. However, it never seems to trigger in regards to Nanami, is she not an option?

I’m not sure if anyone already reported it, but I got one exception when you’re having sex with Lita and you’re on top and you choose cum, I get this:
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I appreciate the high praise! The pet name system was my solution to a problem that will remain nameless. But once I started playing with it I liked the idea of being able to call any character whatever you want. So I expanded it. It just makes the scenes with Arthur a lot more fun to read.

While the old sex scenes make use of the new mechanic, they don't make full use yet. In the new sex menu system, you have the option of dropping a load into a character as many times as you want. The sex scene algorithm factors in the number of times you juiced in a lover when determining the probability for pregnancy. If a character is on the pill, this probability is mitigated, but can still be overcome with enough "deposits".

Since in the old sex scenes you can only cum in a girl once, the chance of pregnancy is reduced. But eventually those sex scenes will get updated with the new menu style system and then they'll function just like the newest scenes.

As for the Lita bug, someone else reported it as well and I've already taken care of it for the bug patch. I'll release that patch in a couple of days just to give time for additional bugs to surface.


Thanks for playing mate, and thanks for taking the time to offer up your feedback. I appreciate it all, good and bad!

Salute!
 

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I appreciate the high praise! The pet name system was my solution to a problem that will remain nameless. But once I started playing with it I liked the idea of being able to call any character whatever you want. So I expanded it. It just makes the scenes with Arthur a lot more fun to read.
It was a great choice, definitely makes the game more entertaining.
 

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hee roman there is no purple option at that moment i only had bleu and red choice there whas no purple option and i started the game al over becausse saves doesnt work however i dont think whe need saves becausse the story aint that long for now
i know there is more to come however its still at the same lengt it whas almost a year ago and though i like the game i whant to see really new stuf in the story line not just game updates only i know you have to do it on yourown alone now but still.
 

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If it helps keep you up at night, know that I'm working on Amanda's update. It's 10 scenes in total (so far), and does include an option for intercourse. So...mull on that. :D
Yeah i'm very much aware of that, i suppose Cassie stuff is also on the horizon? The coming months i can probably become a patron again! :love:
 
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Just started this game, and my only thing so far is that Nanami keeps calling the MC Roger, even though I chose another name:
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Here's an example. At least the next two times she refers to the MC, she uses Roger as well.
 

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This game seems pretty great, but at the same time, it could be a lot better. There are a few obvious bugs, like animations not being sized right, and a missing image here or there. I'll look past all that, not a problem that can't be fixed, and I have faith it will get fixed soon enough. The menu font is a little to fancy to be easily read as well. No major issues really. The renders are good, the menus are nice, got a good story, and all that jazz.

There is one thing though above all these minor bugs that could easily be fixed that kills this game. Too many pursuable female characters at this point in time. I tried this game about 6 months ago. There has not been any new content with a number of the girls I found interesting since then. Played through a couple times just now once all blue, once all red, then opened up the cheat menu to look it all over as a bigger picture.

The game was first released about 23 months ago. However, I'm sure with development time and previews how about we just round it out and say it's 2 years old. There are 7 Female Characters listed in lovers. Contacts have an additional 17 characters, some of which we fuck such as Lola.

Nanomi: Chapter 1 & 2
Lupita: Chapter 1
Amanda: Chapter 1
Jane: Chapter 1A & 1B
Emily: Chapter 1
Cassie: Chapter 1, Chapter 2 A & B
Monica: Chapter 1

11 chapters cut between 7 females over a 2-year development window... That's not good. 11 / 7 = 1.57 chapters per girl. (2 or 3 chapters have other females included in the chapter, but if you are just a minor character in a chapter you shouldn't be counted. Cassie Chapter 1 is well rounded including both Jane, and Amanda, but it's not their chapter it's Cassies chapter and could have had more cassie content, but they ate her time so just considering it all cassie content since she is supposed to be main character. So an argument could be made for a 13/7 divide, but no other chapter has multiple girls like this so we are just gonna call it a Cassie chapter. So 1.57 Chapters per girl... or 14.64 months per update per girl. If we use the more liberal 13/7 divide it becomes 1.85 chapters per girl, and if we use a more conservative 23-month window it is still 12.4 month or still over a year per update per girl. Each girl only gets one update per year...

And this isn't to say that these are bad characters by any means. They are pretty much all interesting characters. However content is limited. It feels more like 7 demos strung together than 1 game.

Imagine It's as if you go to the fridge and you eat lets say... 1 chicken nugget, 1 bite of a hamburger, 1 spoon full of ice cream, 1 bite of spaghetti, 1 bite of a taco, 1 spoon full of mashed potatoes, and 1 bite of apple pie. All foods I love, but I don't eat like that. Nobody does. That's not a good meal to mix all that up on my plate and call that a meal. If a person were given an opportunity to have a full serving of each, one after another over time it would be much prefered...

Imagine it is a construction crew building homes. They could have 7 homes 10-15% built or 1 home 100% built. What sounds better?

Imagine it's watching movies. You can watch 20 minutes of 7 movies or 140 minutes of 1 movie?

Each girl ONLY gets one update per year... Does that mean that the game is doomed? No of course not... No it doesn't. There is a solution to solve this issue, and it's not that complicated of a solution.

Focus on 1 or 2 girls for a long time. Perhaps do a vote.... "Which girl do you want to get 4 chapters in 2020?" And THAT girl for sure gets 4 chapters (if not more). There are about 6 chapters completed per year so she would get most the total 2020 content. This divided content makes the game feel like it's in limbo though.

What sounds better to you guys to have in January 2021? One of the girls upto chapter 7 or 8, or all of the girls on chapter 2 or 3? I think it's better to have 1 or 2 characters stride forward powerfully than to have many waddle forward like penguins wearing butt plugs.
 
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I'm looking through all the devs replies here and there seems to be no mention of a possible bug after the scene where you bang Nanami on the car/in the alley. The game goes back to the Therapist selection screen but all girls are greyed out and there's no way to advance.
 

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I have this exact problem/fear with many games that already have kinda slow progress and yet keep introducing new girls with each update. Not going to name specific games, but as you said many of them have the plan of having each update focusing on a specific girl so for picky people like me the wait can become incredibly long.

Some developers even have some high patreon tiers that let people get their own designed girl into the game and personally i don't like that. And yeah i know this sounds kinda entitled or selfish but i cant be the only one who feels this way, sorry for the rant. :)
 

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I'm looking through all the devs replies here and there seems to be no mention of a possible bug after the scene where you bang Nanami on the car/in the alley. The game goes back to the Therapist selection screen but all girls are greyed out and there's no way to advance.
Um . . . that's because it's the end of the current content. There literally is no way to advance right now, because there's nowhere to go. It's not a bug. The game, as designed now, automatically takes you back to Dr. Amana after you finish one of the girls' stories. So, you're taken back to the therapy session, but there are no more stories for now, so there's nothing to click.
 

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This game seems pretty great, but at the same time, it could be a lot better. There are a few obvious bugs, like animations not being sized right, and a missing image here or there. I'll look past all that, not a problem that can't be fixed, and I have faith it will get fixed soon enough. The menu font is a little to fancy to be easily read as well. No major issues really. The renders are good, the menus are nice, got a good story, and all that jazz.

There is one thing though above all these minor bugs that could easily be fixed that kills this game. Too many pursuable female characters at this point in time. I tried this game about 6 months ago. There has not been any new content with a number of the girls I found interesting since then. Played through a couple times just now once all blue, once all red, then opened up the cheat menu to look it all over as a bigger picture.

The game was first released about 23 months ago. However, I'm sure with development time and previews how about we just round it out and say it's 2 years old. There are 7 Female Characters listed in lovers. Contacts have an additional 17 characters, some of which we fuck such as Lola.

Nanomi: Chapter 1 & 2
Lupita: Chapter 1
Amanda: Chapter 1
Jane: Chapter 1A & 1B
Emily: Chapter 1
Cassie: Chapter 1, Chapter 2 A & B
Monica: Chapter 1

11 chapters cut between 7 females over a 2-year development window... That's not good. 11 / 7 = 1.57 chapters per girl. (2 or 3 chapters have other females included in the chapter, but if you are just a minor character in a chapter you shouldn't be counted. Cassie Chapter 1 is well rounded including both Jane, and Amanda, but it's not their chapter it's Cassies chapter and could have had more cassie content, but they ate her time so just considering it all cassie content since she is supposed to be main character. So an argument could be made for a 13/7 divide, but no other chapter has multiple girls like this so we are just gonna call it a Cassie chapter. So 1.57 Chapters per girl... or 14.64 months per update per girl. If we use the more liberal 13/7 divide it becomes 1.85 chapters per girl, and if we use a more conservative 23-month window it is still 12.4 month or still over a year per update per girl. Each girl only gets one update per year...

And this isn't to say that these are bad characters by any means. They are pretty much all interesting characters. However content is limited. It feels more like 7 demos strung together than 1 game.

Imagine It's as if you go to the fridge and you eat lets say... 1 chicken nugget, 1 bite of a hamburger, 1 spoon full of ice cream, 1 bite of spaghetti, 1 bite of a taco, 1 spoon full of mashed potatoes, and 1 bite of apple pie. All foods I love, but I don't eat like that. Nobody does. That's not a good meal to mix all that up on my plate and call that a meal. If a person were given an opportunity to have a full serving of each, one after another over time it would be much prefered...

Imagine it is a construction crew building homes. They could have 7 homes 10-15% built or 1 home 100% built. What sounds better?

Imagine it's watching movies. You can watch 20 minutes of 7 movies or 140 minutes of 1 movie?

Each girl ONLY gets one update per year... Does that mean that the game is doomed? No of course not... No it doesn't. There is a solution to solve this issue, and it's not that complicated of a solution.

Focus on 1 or 2 girls for a long time. Perhaps do a vote.... "Which girl do you want to get 4 chapters in 2020?" And THAT girl for sure gets 4 chapters (if not more). There are about 6 chapters completed per year so she would get most the total 2020 content. This divided content makes the game feel like it's in limbo though.

What sounds better to you guys to have in January 2021? One of the girls upto chapter 7 or 8, or all of the girls on chapter 2 or 3? I think it's better to have 1 or 2 characters stride forward powerfully than to have many waddle forward like penguins wearing butt plugs.
I have this exact problem/fear with many games that already have kinda slow progress and yet keep introducing new girls with each update. Not going to name specific games, but as you said many of them have the plan of having each update focusing on a specific girl so for picky people like me the wait can become incredibly long.

Some developers even have some high patreon tiers that let people get their own designed girl into the game and personally i don't like that. And yeah i know this sounds kinda entitled or selfish but i cant be the only one who feels this way, sorry for the rant. :)
I would typically agree with you, and I believe you're right that this primary issue — about there being too many women and long development times between versions — is a big problem. However, I think you should cut RomanHume a lot of slack. While I'm not on RomanHume's development team (so of course I can't speak for him), I would guess that the main problem you're describing is in part due to this: There used to be a larger team working on the project, but over time team members dropped off. RomanHume was left holding the bag and is currently trying to manage everything himself. I would guess that, at the time the team was originally formed, having multiple girls and paths was at least somewhat reasonable. But now, flying solo, naturally it's problematic.

I believe he's trying to continue the same story that was originally written. The other choices are either to abandon the project entirely, completely change the story so suddenly there aren't the same number of girls, or find new team members for the game (which I'm guessing is an ongoing effort anyway). I'm not sure that either of those first two choices are good, TBH. Anyone who loves this game doesn't want it to be abandoned, obviously, nor would they want the story to suddenly change so there aren't all of the women in it anymore. Getting a larger team seems to be the best solution. If only it were easily done.

Although I very much enjoyed Lita, Lola, and Candy, I do agree that they all may have made things more complicated overall. Still, I'm pretty sure they all work into the overall plot of the game, so eliminating them (as I already said) is not an ideal "solution".
 

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I just wanted to say, I totally enjoy this one. The girls old and young look amazing, always a plus... I started the first part and for a while thought it got abandoned. I'm glad to see it didn't. I've played it thru as blue then red then mixed always something different. I love the add to the story for getting back at the boss but I was also hoping to see a additition to the girls story also but hey I know it will come. Please continue the great work on this story and I'll be watching, lol. Thank you..
 
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