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For me either. Looks like it got patched
For the record it didn't. We aren't worried about patching the alpha unless its a bug that makes a release unplayable. We aren't going to spend 6 hours recoding, compiling, uploading and updating the links just to fix a hack. Especially knowing that our fix, will probably get hacked around.

Security is something we'll worry about in beta. For the alpha, we are developing the story.

We'd rather spend those 6 hours writing the next scene. And we are. Cheers!
 

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guys, setting some game variables via console i wouldn't call a hack, and often leads to problems, playing a game
and it's definitely not worth checking, fixing or whatever
in this case it controls only what clothing you see in some scenes
it's just my habit, to look in the script files, so..
@RomanHume if my initial post about this damn tier thingy got you distracted, sorry :firstimekiss:
..and now go back to work, i like what you did so far :closedtongue:
 
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I really loved the update, and played the game from start all over really love the showerscene with Emily.
She's smokin hot (my opinion) and i really looking forward to more of her and Lupita to offcourse :)
Just to make sure, so I don't miss any off the good stuff.
The only "new" stuff in this update was with Nanami right (2 different outcomes) ?
Thanks again for the update and pls keep doing what you do
 

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guys, setting some game variables via console i wouldn't call a hack, and often leads to problems, playing a game
and it's definitely not worth checking, fixing or whatever
in this case it controls only what clothing you see in some scenes
it's just my habit, to look in the script files, so..
@RomanHume if my initial post about this damn tier thingy got you distracted, sorry :firstimekiss:
..and now go back to work, i like what you did so far :closedtongue:
My bad asking about the console m8, the reason i got curious was because of a missreading I thought you wrote that there were extra scenes with Jane and Nanami for tier 5, and not only a change of wardrobe.
English is not my primary language so there was a little confusion for me when I read it the first time :p
 

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My bad asking about the console m8, the reason i got curious was because of a missreading I thought you wrote that there were extra scenes with Jane and Nanami for tier 5, and not only a change of wardrobe.
English is not my primary language so there was a little confusion for me when I read it the first time :p
no harm done, and english is only my tertiary language, so maybe my post was not clear
 
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no harm done, and english is only my tertiary language, so maybe my post was not clear
After reading it a second time it was really clear so that was all on me , might have been one of thoose wishfull thinkings :D
 

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if you have a comfy life, yes, why not..
i myself if i was a bit more rich (not alots, but a bit more to be able to not stress about end the month with food) i will gladly do a game just for the fun to create a game. without expecting anything in return than the pleasure to others peoples to play my game.

maybe i m unique, but i will probably not care at all about getting money from another source than my actual job

I've had this conversation a million times in lots of different areas, whether it's businesses in general, finance, sport (professional sport), politics, education, gaming, porn, whatever, it's always the same argument, same points and same questions.

So not that I'm feeling exceedingly zealous and confident about my experience and knowledge, but I thought I'd share a little of what I think I know. (the real reason is this is a subject that I find very interesting :p)

Basically, there is no black or white, think of things in this conversation as a rainbow, there are different colours, but no limits between each of them, and differences within them etc.

You could say there are generally two colours for this question (it's an over-simplification but just for the argument); when answering the question "why do this?" :

1. for the money
2. for the passion / interest

Again, no matter the field, from music sales to video gaming, artists creators and producers all share this situation.

Traditionally, "old school" entrepreneurs, creators, artists etc have the reputation of doing the things they do because they love it and are good at it. It's easy to see in video games with companies that very famous today who became popular because they made unique and creative games because they were good at it and loved it (and didn't do it for the money). [cough some are now part of EA Games :XD]

Recently, contemporary developers, artists and so on have more the reputation of doing what they do because it makes them money.

Before, the "old school" devs would do what they love and get rewarded for it, now, they do what gets them money and try to do what they like in the process.

It's simply putting one priority behind the other, or vice versa.

On the topic at hand, on this very question, I can give you tons of examples of Patreon devs / games which fit both categories.

For example, (this is just my opinion) :



Is a good illustration of a game made by someone who loves what he's doing. Very often, a dev will make a game because he or she loves to do that, they'll publish it not to make cash, but because having people enjoy what you created is part of the reward.. Often, because the game is made "with passion", it will be good, but not only that, it will be different from all others, and the people who appreciate it, will appreciate it a lot more.

That's one way you can tell the difference between the two kinds of "colours"; in the first case you will find an original if not unique, creative and good quality product, in the other, you will get something that makes money. So that's either patreon bait incest "peek through the bathroom door to see your mother blah blah" cheap to make easy to steal/re-use work, often bad quality, and widely popular because that's exactly the objective, or, something that has been "thought through" and developed professionally, something mainstream (examples are easier to find in mainstream games if you basically look at all the AAA games that require a lot of money to develop, they're all the same and they all do the same thing.)).


TLDR

Basically, it's a balance between creativity and profit seeking, and over the years, in pretty much all areas of art or busines etc, the balance has been steadily pushing towards profit seeking rather than anything else.

And to answer the person's question who originally started this discussion (I think?) :
I agree with your post.

BUT:


Who does it just for the kicks?
Seriously.

Would you waste hours and hours of your day, days, weeks, months, just for the fuck of it?
The answer is simple (if you forget that things are a matter of degrees and not black and white), would you sell your ass in the street for 20 dollars a month? Would you deal cocain for 200000 a month? You can ask any question like that and it all just depends doesn't it?

Basically there will be devs who are professional and need the money to live off, there are those that heard it's an easy way to make some quick cash and that's all they care about, and there are those who instead of going drinking with friends on saturday night will stay home and code cause that's what they love to do.

The thing is though, and that's my whole point, is that on one end of the spectrum the finished product will be creative and honest, often it will be good if not so polished while on the other it will mainstream stuff that everyone has seen a million times but still sells that's not hard to make and doesn't require much effort.

Not suprisingly, people, whatever their interests, tend to prefer one over the other, as a general thing ..
 

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so.. finally played 0.7.1
nice renders as usual
afterSexT.jpg
(tattoo.. nice..)
nice story buildup as usual
looking forward to next update

but @RomanHume do you really intend to increase respect by 2 every sex round with nanami?
 

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i know about AatoFL ,i know Kerny, he know me, from LL, i was there from the very beginning :) and i always lurk around in the dark while watching him
( i guess he undertand know XD )

WE have push him to make patreon and else. and i know how motivated he is. thats not his first game, and the others ones, as small as theyr are on his eyes, are still good :)
 
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@RomanHume Maybe this might help you if you wanna go in this direction ;)
I appreciate the input. Our vision right now for the relationship between these characters lacks love, and perhaps even trust. Roger and Nanami are two animals who see each other as a means to several ends. They are simply using each other.

But this is good and I won't say we won't use it in a future game (we are up to five planned installments at this point.)

Thanks for the info!
 

RomanHume

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surprisingly, a very thought up game, I'm a fan now :) love the way you can pick and choose what memory you want to
recall first, BIG thanks for this one.
Thanks for giving us a shot! Hopefully, as we develop, we continue to please.

We appreciate all feedback, good and bad!

Salute!
 

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0.7.1 ? Ok now i can try this game :p
Please let us know what you think after you have.

If we're lucky, maybe in another 6 months when we have a lot more content, you'll expand your signature list to Top 10 and we'll make the grade!

Cheers!
 

RomanHume

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guys, setting some game variables via console i wouldn't call a hack, and often leads to problems, playing a game
and it's definitely not worth checking, fixing or whatever
in this case it controls only what clothing you see in some scenes
it's just my habit, to look in the script files, so..
@RomanHume if my initial post about this damn tier thingy got you distracted, sorry :firstimekiss:
..and now go back to work, i like what you did so far :closedtongue:
I understand the console isn't a hack, and I use the term loosely to just describe any unofficial modification to the game.

Nothing in the additional tiers is super-secretive. It's just a little extra work we put in as a hat tip to our patrons. I'd like to think people are supporting us at all tiers because they like the project. We just include those little exclusives as a sincere thank you. And the more people choose to invest, the more we try to give back.

None of the tier rewards changes the story or the outcomes. It's just additional "Thank-you" eye-candy for our patrons. A small salute to those helping hold this thing afloat.
 
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