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I assume it's faster but surely both routes will give us sex scenes. However if someone is more inclined towards romance, he'll probably prefer the blue route.
I for one went all red with her, it just seemed to fit nicely
Red = her ass after she gets her spanking!I assume it's faster but surely both routes will give us sex scenes. However if someone is more inclined towards romance, he'll probably prefer the blue route.
I for one went all red with her, it just seemed to fit nicely
Blue = blue balls for "romance"
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I assume it's faster but surely both routes will give us sex scenes. However if someone is more inclined towards romance, he'll probably prefer the blue route.
I for one went all red with her, it just seemed to fit nicely
While I have my doubts for Jane, Cassie and Amanda about which color would be best, Lupita is red all the way. I am only hoping we can secretly fuck her with wife (and maybe daughter) on the scene. Actually with both would be best, with wife unaware but Cassie noticing something is going on. Don't know why that turns me on so much.Red = her ass after she gets her spanking!
Blue = blue balls for "romance"
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I'm not talking about getting to the sex, but it seems with your sorta boss you need to be mostly red and I think someone said Lupita needed to be red?I assume it's faster but surely both routes will give us sex scenes. However if someone is more inclined towards romance, he'll probably prefer the blue route.
I for one went all red with her, it just seemed to fit nicely
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2020-06-15 News (SFW-ish)
Before I get into any particulars, I want to introduce the above piece of artwork titled, "Who are all these assholes?!"
I figured you and Nanami didn't have enough enemies/allies so it was time to bump the cast a bit. Don't worry, I've added more than a few ladies to the mix, but I felt their reveal required a little more fanfare later on. Now, onto some news.
Where have you been?
Stupid busy working on the game in all honesty. I've been so far up the butt hole of this game's code for the last few weeks that I think a few times I forgot to come up for air and risked passing out. Seriously though, it's been a lot of grueling nights jamming out a shit ton of python as I lay down some groundwork for the future stability of the game. There has been so much that's transpired, I just have to figure out where to start....
Disemboweling Renpy
So as you know from previous news, I wrote code to write code. No biggie right? But in doing this I realized that the game itself already had several stability issues that needed attention. And if the goal was to never code again, I needed to take measures to ensure that future releases would have a near zero chance of breaking saves and popping errors.
Setting out to fix some of those long standing issues I realized I had finally had it with the structure of the Renpy code as it came packaged, and with a clean, new version of Renpy in hand, I smashed the shit out of it and rearranged all the pieces in a way that works best for this game.
Without going into the nitty gritty, Renpy tries to do you a favor by keeping Styles in one place, Screens in another, Images over here and Scripts over there. And if you're doing a simple game that's all well and good. But for a game like Doctor Amana that not only has several custom screens, having all the styling isolated from the processes that uses them, sometimes lead to aberrant behavior as something would get changed to accommodate one screen and then get all fucked up on another.
Compartmentalization was the name of the game and I spent a couple days reorganizing Renpy's innards and testing it to make sure that the initialization sequences wouldn't throw an error. It took some toying but the sequence was ironed out and everything fired off without a hitch. I can now safely add and delete screens and elements without fear of impacting another part of the game because it's all isolated from each other.
With that in hand, it was time to rebuild the interface for Doctor Amana in a way that used Static Classes to generate game data on the fly, instead of relying on a spread of different objects all saving different data.
(Translation: I unfucked the code so it works better for our game. By finding what it needs on it's own and not saving every single thing in a save file, there is 97% less stuff happening that could break your save.)
First thing that needed fixing...The Planner
No doubt some of you are wondering why I'm busy dicking with the planner instead of moving forward. Well, because I never want to code again, the best thing to do was fix everything now in such a way that little to nothing can go wrong in the future.
I also needed to implement the last few features I wanted. (I now have everything I've envisioned and do not expect to add any more interface elements or features).
Here's the run down...
I've spent a good deal of time studying effective gui design and finally settled on a format that pretty much leaves 80% of your options one click a way. Character stats are only 2 clicks away.
You can now rename any character, male, female, lover or contact. If they're in the game and have a name, you can use this screen to rename them. You can also set "pet names" for every character and the game will update immediately.
I've also recoded the biographies to use these updated names and they refresh as you type.
Cheat mode is available on start up for every player!
With cheat mode turned off, you can access a character's stats and they appear as so...
But with Cheat mode turned on, You can no modify every single character stat...
Want a higher red or blue stat? It's as easy as grabbing the colored bar and dragging the slider up and down. Simply clicking the True/False stats will toggle them.
My goal with the cheat menu is to make the console obsolete for the player. It makes tweaking the game easy for everyone and eliminates the need for me to share my esoteric code to access things like character objects and methods.
Speaking of changes.
My explorations in Blender and Substance have gifted me with a much better understanding of textures and surfaces. That said, I've finally been able to correct the problems I was having with dick colors.
Wait...what? Dick colors? That's right. About a year and a half ago some of you may remember I mentioned I had put together a system for having
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Just when I was ready to fire it off, I started having issues with the flesh tones on the cock varying too widely with the different skins.I have since been able to swing around and take another swing at the problem and I was finally able to solve the issue. But I realized I didn't have to stop there. I could push this one more level and make your skin tone interchangeable at any point in the game. That's right, any time you want to change your main character's name or avatar, you just go to his tab, type in a new name, and switch your portrait.
The change is instantaneous and can be changed as much as your heart desires.
No restart or reload required. And when you change his last name....other...um...characters...last names change as well. So you're wife's bio will always match up to yours. Unless of course you go in and change her's after the fact. (And look, the tab updates too!)
One final addition that took some serious thought to implement, was the alternate game modes for the upper tier players. I realized early on that for all the different "skins" I wanted to make for the characters, the game file was going to end up pretty large because there could be upwards of four or five variants for each image in the game. How to manage that file size while still making the game downloadable in a reasonable time frame was something I knew I'd have to tackle sooner or later.
Well, I tackled it now so that I don't have to do it later. The solution, let the game detect which alternate assets are available and then give the player the option. If the assets are removed, remove the option and default back to the normal images.
I've tested this out over and over again and so far everything works smooth. Right now there are two alternates available, lingerie and nude mode.
Let's say that by this time next year I've added two more game modes. Well with the game set to detect available alternate assets, you as a player can now just download whichever modes you want, drop them in the game file, and the next time you start your game you'll have the "Modes" tab available as well as options to turn on or off any assets you've downloaded.
If you need to save hard drive space at a later date. Just delete the folder and the option goes away and the game detects the change and defaults back to the normal images. No error messages, no game breaks, no problems with saves. It adapts on the fly to whatever images you have loaded up and that's it.
As a final tweak for potential future expansion, I've now coded the character objects as either Contact or Lover, with functions that will upgrade and downgrade a character between those two statuses. This means any character in the game could, if I chose to write it into the game, become a main love interest. And those you kill switch can be downgraded to "contact" and remain in the game if by chance their story is important to the over all narrative or required to access other characters.
In a nut shell, I apologize for the two week silence (I only jumped on the forums a couple of times to shut down some rude sons of bitches). I've just been locked deep inside the code for this thing and have been hard at work upgrading it to its final-ish form so that starting Wednesday or so, I can move into full creative mode.
The coding is pretty much done at this point. I have to run a few more checks on my side program that turns my raw script into renpy code to make sure it works with all the changes I've made, but I'm happy to say that for the most part we're done.
I have a couple of other upgrades I included that I didn't mention here, but since this post is getting pretty long, I'll save those for the next news break.
We made it folks! By this time next week my only job when it comes to this game is to write story and make sexy ass pictures! It's an exciting place to be and I can't wait to see how things roll going forward.
I want to thank everyone for their patience! It's been a slog with more 4am cut offs than I can count at this point. But it's done!
Oh! And the best part, which helps me justify the time spent doing this, is that the foundation built here, can be used for many, many games to come. So when I finally get this game finished and brought to a thrilling conclusion, it'll be a swift turn around into a new story.
I seriously appreciate you all standing by me while I grind this out. I know it's been tough, I am incredibly optimistic about what's the come!
I salute you!
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Now that this coding debacle is out of the way I'm looking to be in full creative mode (only working on scripts and renders) for the foreseeable future. Unfortunately I don't give estimates because I miss my estimates every single time.
I always under estimate how long it takes to get things done.This was very informative actually! I wasn't aware of any of it, but I understand the lingo and what you're saying makes sense. For the real job I've been studying Android programming in Kotlin. Not sure why I waited until now to pick it up. So hopefully I'll learn a lot more about Android in the process that will help me debug some of the BS I have deal with in Renpy.
Total fluke. He had an advertisement on some porn site I was on, probably Daughter Swap or something, and I clicked on it and got hooked. Little did I know it would open up this whole seedy pornographic video game niche. =D
I've been working on Lupita, Monica, and Cassie simultaneously. Got a lot of content written out, just gotta piece together the artwork for it all. Which will be easier now that my time is absolved of other duties.
Best is really determined by personal preference. I'm trying to make all paths enjoyable and viable without favoring one over the other. If you want romance, I want to give you that option. If you want spanking the maid, I want to give you that too. So it really depends on what you're after with each character to determine which route is "best".
All roads lead to Rome...or sex...or something. The decisions that will lead you away from sex are clearly marked in black and indicate that choosing this choice will terminate any future relationship. So in that respect, yes, there are no bad choices. Only different flavors of ice cream.I assume it's faster but surely both routes will give us sex scenes. However if someone is more inclined towards romance, he'll probably prefer the blue route.
I for one went all red with her, it just seemed to fit nicely
Fuck me mate, you don't ask for much do you.
Again, it just depends on which "side" of the character you want to experience. Both red and blue will have their own series of rewards. There are no losers. Well, except Roger. Cause you can't fuck that many women at the same time and not get in trouble. But we'll save that for the end. =D
Fair enough.You say shut down, I call it verbal castration
You think that was good, wait until I drop the next one, "Benefits of Static Class Methods in Dynamic Renpy Storytelling"
It's riveting as fuck mate. Real edge of the seat stuff! So exciting we have to wrap the seats in plastic before we let anyone in so that we don't spend the next week scrubbing jizz outta the cushions.
Like I said, I added several ladies too, I just want to dole them out in small bites so they can be savored more. I figured if I just dropped all the characters with dicks on everyone now, it'd be less painful than slowly slapping people with them one at a time.Too many old men for me to be excited
I am happy to hear you accomplished what you wanted to accomplish and more game is coming our way.
For real though, I'm breathing a huge sigh of relief now that it's done and I'm damned excited about only having to do story and pictures going forward. I'm interested to see how this changes production speed over all. I mean, it certainly can't make it any slower.
Seriously mate I can't thank you enough! I'm grateful for every dollar of support.
And uh...incest with Cassie? What? What are you talking about. Incest would imply that.....no...no you wouldn't imply that! Would you?!
There's no relationship variable in the game at this time. Mechanically I didn't see much of a need for it. It's only purpose would just be to confirm or deny this or that but as far as the code is concerned there wasn't any use for one.
I'm still tip toeing through a minefield in a lot of ways, so the pet name system is the best I can do for altering the game easily. But it turns out that certain pronouns work very well inside the system. Almost like the dialogue was written to accommodate them...
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I know but what can I do? the heart dick wants what the heart dick wantsFuck me mate, you don't ask for much do you.
I understand. I mentioned it as it could erase the need of a incest patch definitively. And given that you are currently on the job of investing in the code so that this can work not just for this game but for future ones, I thought that it was a good alternative to look into that once and for all. So that in any other game you can include with no restrictions ridiculously suspicious unrelated teenager lovers, that you saw grew up, you've taken to school and live in your house. Or any extremely similarly looking woman, born on the same day, that grew up with you, and never left your side, almost as if she was your twin.And uh...incest with Cassie? What? What are you talking about. Incest would imply that.....no...no you wouldn't imply that! Would you?!
There's no relationship variable in the game at this time. Mechanically I didn't see much of a need for it. It's only purpose would just be to confirm or deny this or that but as far as the code is concerned there wasn't any use for one.
I'm still tip toeing through a minefield in a lot of ways, so the pet name system is the best I can do for altering the game easily. But it turns out that certain pronouns work very well inside the system. Almost like the dialogue was written to accommodate them...
I have no idea about coding, but given everything you have done so far with pet names, my guess is that including one for relationship would not be that different. Obviously this need not be for all characters, just those that would make patreon start bitching. And I have seen it a lot just a "define your relationship here". Given all the work you have done with the notebook and pet names I really not that much.
Here is our lovely girl with the patch
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Here is without patch. For some reason, the notebook still says she is My daughter.
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So maybe in your code you could include an extra part such that some characters require another two variables. Characters in here are not related. This many variables. Characters in here are related, we need this two extra variables in the notebook. There is not need for more, as other games need, as your pet system cover the informal way of calling each other.
Again, I don't mind, I am confident the patch will keep being updated (I know it has nothing to do with you). Just in the lookout for "a once and for all code creator of all codes". We need a shorter name. While I would like "Daddy Code" in honor to Cassie, given all the terminator jokes I suggest "Skynet Code"
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Yeah i want to spank the maid too, and Lola and Jane.
Amanda will likely be angry if she finds out Jane is also enjoying licking the "lolipop".
Ooooo. Super detailed post about tech stuff is promising. Roman saying he's gonna be focusing a lot more on writing and art stuff is even more so. I haven't seen it suggested in several places that the next big content drop might have a Cass chapter to break the drought for we ever faithful and thirsty lads
Although being a bit more serious for a sec, while I probably swing my boner for Cass around here a little too liberally, I have to admit part of the reason I'm such a big fan is my interest in seeing how well the #totallynotbydesign father/daughter dynamic between her and Roger plays out. Well my interest and my hope that the dynamic ends up being done the way I enjoy these sorts of things being done
Now not to intimate that I'm the kind of degenerate who specifically looks for this type of content of course, but in my extensive experience I don't think I've ever seen this type of dynamic done well, from my perspective, in an adult game. I suspect a part of this is the fault of Patreon; if your game can't feature any incest, then even if you write a relationship that could be interpreted as such with some creative patching, it still needs to be a sensical relationship for players who don't use said changes. And there aren't many types of relationships that offer such a strong mix of intimacy, familiarity and taboo, so if you have to borrow a different one to get passed the censors, I doesn't surprise me that the creators have to structure the #totallnotincest relationships in a way that is, well, totally not incest. Although I don't at all fault creators for using Patreon; I use it to help fund some of the artists I found on here whose work I love, afterall. Plus these mofos do great and sexy work, and they deserved to get paid, son!
Besides even outside of Patreon funded games it seems like devs/writers don't seem to share my perspective on the whys and hows that it's a *cough*interesting*cough* dynamic. Or if they do then they unfortunately don't, for me, land the execution.
I mean, I could be alone in the reasons for why I like this kind of stuff, and maybe my fellow degenerates on here will speak up and let me know that I am. But to me, most people have a pretty strong real world aversion to thinking about their family that way, and so, to me, it stands to reason that in order to overcome this baseline resistance, the desire most be super fucking strong. Like, overwhelming-of-your-faculties-of-reason level strong. The type of lust that drives some people to ridiculous, career-and-marriage-risking affairs, or to fuck in places where it's heart-racingly likely that they'll be caught; the type of lust, in other words, that demands, like a siren blaring in your head, to be satiated, damn the risks and damn the consequences.
Again, at least that's how it is in my mind. By contrast, in all the games I've played the idea that you might wanna fuck your mum/dad/sister/brother barely registers as an alarm. I'm lucky if I get a "oh no it's totally wrong that I feel this way" internal monologue before our MC starts jacking it to the sight of a naked family member they've up till that point probably spent their whole lives with. And I mean it's still incest even if there's no real tension or sense of taboo, and maybe walking that tension tightrope isn't something devs want to do when they're trying to write stories of fantasy fulfilment that often have to try to double as interactive games to some extent. And obviously I could just be alone (or in the very small minority) in wanting the taboo and struggle between lust and feelings of wrongness. Maybe most people are happy to know in their mind that the relationship is taboo, and that doesn't need to be played out in the character dynamics.
Anyway most of that, not important. The only reason I mention it is that this game, as it's still in development, is the only one I've found where I'm a considerable way in (in terms of how much cumulative story there is; it is obviously likely to be waaay longer, but I still feel like there's been a lot of substance) and still haven't seen MC really commit to being ok with the idea that it's totes cool for him to fuck his own daughter. Which means that the middleground that I've experienced carries this tension I'm talking about, where, sure it's ok for Roger to like his daughter's ass, and sure it's ok for Cass to secretly like that her dad finds her attractive, but actually fucking, or even putting the idea of a sexual relationship into actual words, or even subtextual innuendo, is still seemingly pretty far off the table.
Which is great! From the perspective of someone like me at least. And it's not like the transition needs to be suuuper long, like some protracted game of hot-and-cool, will-they-won't-they shit. Once the audience is aware of the dynamic, and once the characters start to catch on, you can go from 0 to fucking in one particularly hot and tense encounter, provided you build the tension to a point where its believable that the characters' desires would boil over and break the dams of any reservations they have.
So on one hand I'm here as a big Cass fan, cause I'm hoping that her relationship with Roger will "degenerate" in a way that I'd find really hot. And on the other hand there's the risk I see that you can't reasonably write what I believe is the degree of tension and moral resistance that is realistic to expect between a father and daughter when you have to pretend, for the sake of the Patreon overseers, that Cass is only your neighbour's daughter.
At least in my head there's a pretty big difference in tone, tension, taboo, between "I shouldn't fuck you, even though I really want to, because you're barely half my age and I've known you since you were a baby and my family and your family are really close" and "I shouldn't fuck you, even though I really want to, because you're my literal daughter".
But of all the creators on here I've played and enjoyed the work of, if there's anyone I'd expect to pull it off it'd be Roman. Assuming that's the kind of dynamic he'd even want to write of course
Although being a bit more serious for a sec, while I probably swing my boner for Cass around here a little too liberally, I have to admit part of the reason I'm such a big fan is my interest in seeing how well the #totallynotbydesign father/daughter dynamic between her and Roger plays out. Well my interest and my hope that the dynamic ends up being done the way I enjoy these sorts of things being done
Now not to intimate that I'm the kind of degenerate who specifically looks for this type of content of course, but in my extensive experience I don't think I've ever seen this type of dynamic done well, from my perspective, in an adult game. I suspect a part of this is the fault of Patreon; if your game can't feature any incest, then even if you write a relationship that could be interpreted as such with some creative patching, it still needs to be a sensical relationship for players who don't use said changes. And there aren't many types of relationships that offer such a strong mix of intimacy, familiarity and taboo, so if you have to borrow a different one to get passed the censors, I doesn't surprise me that the creators have to structure the #totallnotincest relationships in a way that is, well, totally not incest. Although I don't at all fault creators for using Patreon; I use it to help fund some of the artists I found on here whose work I love, afterall. Plus these mofos do great and sexy work, and they deserved to get paid, son!
Besides even outside of Patreon funded games it seems like devs/writers don't seem to share my perspective on the whys and hows that it's a *cough*interesting*cough* dynamic. Or if they do then they unfortunately don't, for me, land the execution.
I mean, I could be alone in the reasons for why I like this kind of stuff, and maybe my fellow degenerates on here will speak up and let me know that I am
. But to me, most people have a pretty strong real world aversion to thinking about their family that way, and so, to me, it stands to reason that in order to overcome this baseline resistance, the desire most be super fucking strong. Like, overwhelming-of-your-faculties-of-reason level strong. The type of lust that drives some people to ridiculous, career-and-marriage-risking affairs, or to fuck in places where it's heart-racingly likely that they'll be caught; the type of lust, in other words, that demands, like a siren blaring in your head, to be satiated, damn the risks and damn the consequences.Again, at least that's how it is in my mind. By contrast, in all the games I've played the idea that you might wanna fuck your mum/dad/sister/brother barely registers as an alarm. I'm lucky if I get a "oh no it's totally wrong that I feel this way" internal monologue before our MC starts jacking it to the sight of a naked family member they've up till that point probably spent their whole lives with. And I mean it's still incest even if there's no real tension or sense of taboo, and maybe walking that tension tightrope isn't something devs want to do when they're trying to write stories of fantasy fulfilment that often have to try to double as interactive games to some extent. And obviously I could just be alone (or in the very small minority) in wanting the taboo and struggle between lust and feelings of wrongness. Maybe most people are happy to know in their mind that the relationship is taboo, and that doesn't need to be played out in the character dynamics.
Anyway most of that, not important. The only reason I mention it is that this game, as it's still in development, is the only one I've found where I'm a considerable way in (in terms of how much cumulative story there is; it is obviously likely to be waaay longer, but I still feel like there's been a lot of substance) and still haven't seen MC really commit to being ok with the idea that it's totes cool for him to fuck his own daughter. Which means that the middleground that I've experienced carries this tension I'm talking about, where, sure it's ok for Roger to like his daughter's ass, and sure it's ok for Cass to secretly like that her dad finds her attractive, but actually fucking, or even putting the idea of a sexual relationship into actual words, or even subtextual innuendo, is still seemingly pretty far off the table.
Which is great! From the perspective of someone like me at least. And it's not like the transition needs to be suuuper long, like some protracted game of hot-and-cool, will-they-won't-they shit. Once the audience is aware of the dynamic, and once the characters start to catch on, you can go from 0 to fucking in one particularly hot and tense encounter, provided you build the tension to a point where its believable that the characters' desires would boil over and break the dams of any reservations they have.
So on one hand I'm here as a big Cass fan, cause I'm hoping that her relationship with Roger will "degenerate"
in a way that I'd find really hot. And on the other hand there's the risk I see that you can't reasonably write what I believe is the degree of tension and moral resistance that is realistic to expect between a father and daughter when you have to pretend, for the sake of the Patreon overseers, that Cass is only your neighbour's daughter.At least in my head there's a pretty big difference in tone, tension, taboo, between "I shouldn't fuck you, even though I really want to, because you're barely half my age and I've known you since you were a baby and my family and your family are really close" and "I shouldn't fuck you, even though I really want to, because you're my literal daughter".
But of all the creators on here I've played and enjoyed the work of, if there's anyone I'd expect to pull it off it'd be Roman. Assuming that's the kind of dynamic he'd even want to write of course
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RomanHume If that program works and has an understandable GUI, why not market it on Patreon and Itch.io to make more $$ if it's stable and reliable? All the changes in the game and gui seem to be good. However, the most important question is "are we going to get more scenes with a certain blonde minx?"
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I will, I'll just need the occasional kick in the ass to remind me to send them out. It's one of those things that I never think about in the chaos of everything else going on. So just ping me every once in awhile and I'll piece together the info.
Oh it's certainly not difficult to do. The naming system I've implement just represents the closest I'm willing to get to that line. My though is that if you can nickname every character in the game, then how can I possibly control if a few players abuse that system for a single character.
I just want to make sure patreon and their watch dogs have zero leverage when it comes closing me out. They shut my page down once before a long long time ago and it was such a miserable experience that I wouldn't want to do anything to risk a repeat.
Plus who knows, when I move on, I don't think it'll be a huge challenge for me to write a quick python scrip that would scrub the code and make the changes.
There aren't many to begin with. Relationships are kind of presented in the beginning of the game and never really mentioned again after. But we'll see what the future bring.
I as well am not intimating anything, but, I too have never seen this dynamic represented in a way that I thought was particularly convincing. This dynamic that we're not speaking of is one of the challenges I've been looking forward to. I want to test whether or not I can sell it believably.Ooooo. Super detailed post about tech stuff is promising. Roman saying he's gonna be focusing a lot more on writing and art stuff is even more so. I haven't seen it suggested in several places that the next big content drop might have a Cass chapter to break the drought for we ever faithful and thirsty lads
Although being a bit more serious for a sec, while I probably swing my boner for Cass around here a little too liberally, I have to admit part of the reason I'm such a big fan is my interest in seeing how well the #totallynotbydesign father/daughter dynamic between her and Roger plays out. Well my interest and my hope that the dynamic ends up being done the way I enjoy these sorts of things being done
Now not to intimate that I'm the kind of degenerate who specifically looks for this type of content of course, but in my extensive experience I don't think I've ever seen this type of dynamic done well, from my perspective, in an adult game.
I also blame it on porn in general not caring much about the particulars and just diving right into the sex as fast as they can inside a 30 minute window. I spent a lot of time reading the stories posted by people who decided to share their tale of consensual incest. It was the most insightful google search I'd ever done.
Obviously in those posts are a lot of bullshit stories, but you read through a good deal of them and you start to get a feeling about which ones are legit and which ones are "fan fiction". Seriously, run that search, there are some hot stories!
I'm trying to circumvent a lot of the usual tropes by remember that my characters had a life, thoughts and feelings before the story started. And that the story is really the kicking off point where people have started to act on those desires in several different ways. Jane didn't just rail Roger in the office because it was there, she's been thinking about Roger for a long time. She grew up around the man and it's not unlikely that she's developed a bit of a wet spot for her best friend's dad.I mean, I could be alone in the reasons for why I like this kind of stuff, and maybe my fellow degenerates on here will speak up and let me know that I am
Again, at least that's how it is in my mind. By contrast, in all the games I've played the idea that you might wanna fuck your mum/dad/sister/brother barely registers as an alarm. I'm lucky if I get a "oh no it's totally wrong that I feel this way" internal monologue before our MC starts jacking it to the sight of a naked family member they've up till that point probably spent their whole lives with. And I mean it's still incest even if there's no real tension or sense of taboo, and maybe walking that tension tightrope isn't something devs want to do when they're trying to write stories of fantasy fulfilment that often have to try to double as interactive games to some extent. And obviously I could just be alone (or in the very small minority) in wanting the taboo and struggle between lust and feelings of wrongness. Maybe most people are happy to know in their mind that the relationship is taboo, and that doesn't need to be played out in the character dynamics.
Of course the exploration of that history has yet to really come out. But even in the Roger/Cassie scenario, things started heated up for one of them way before the story you're reading began. And we'll get into all that in good time. But for now it's my way of justifying the rapidity of things happening.
This is where the history prior to the game comes in. And don't worry, it's not going to be a quick "well she's always felt that way" and move on. One of the things I like about the game is the study of psychology. I read a whole college text book on Social Psychology to prep for the game. I was originally going to use that information for Amana's dialogue but it's sorts spilled over into some of the character design and their motives.
That said, as things heat up and things go to exciting new places, there will be plenty of opportunities for Roger and Cassie talk about how they got where they are, and that's when a lot of the backstory is going to come forward and hopefully put everything into a believable context. This is the goal anyway.
Of course we all know it's not his daughter. So with that out of the way. Let's just say I put a lot of thought into it. I think about these characters probably way more than is healthy. But that said, when I started, I wanted to write the story I wanted to read. I wanted to correct what I felt was some short comings in other works that I'd played. And in other ways, I wanted to prove that you can explore the same old scenarios in new ways.Which is great! From the perspective of someone like me at least. And it's not like the transition needs to be suuuper long, like some protracted game of hot-and-cool, will-they-won't-they shit. Once the audience is aware of the dynamic, and once the characters start to catch on, you can go from 0 to fucking in one particularly hot and tense encounter, provided you build the tension to a point where its believable that the characters' desires would boil over and break the dams of any reservations they have.
So on one hand I'm here as a big Cass fan, cause I'm hoping that her relationship with Roger will "degenerate"
At least in my head there's a pretty big difference in tone, tension, taboo, between "I shouldn't fuck you, even though I really want to, because you're barely half my age and I've known you since you were a baby and my family and your family are really close" and "I shouldn't fuck you, even though I really want to, because you're my literal daughter".
But of all the creators on here I've played and enjoyed the work of, if there's anyone I'd expect to pull it off it'd be Roman. Assuming that's the kind of dynamic he'd even want to write of course
I guess you could say that I want to prove that porn doesn't have to follow the same old tropes. That you can write story and sex and make both good. Time will tell if I succeed. But that will be for you all to judge in the end.
Excellent post mate! I appreciate all the feedback!
I don't know if it's any more understandable than Renpy. It still uses the Renpy screen language, attributes, classes and methods. But I've just organized shit a lot better for less breakage.
I doubt I could sell it because first off, I don't have rights to sell the renpy base code. Second, it's structure for a very specific type of game, Doctor Amana. So anyone using it would need to be making a game like this with the same mechanics, etc. And third, I don't want to spend all my time debugging everyone else's code trying to figure out why this or that doesn't work for them.
Besides, anyone downloading my game can just open the folders and take it. They don't need to pay for it. They can just delete my script and do their own thing. I don't archive or hide any of my code. So you don't even need Unren to look under my hood. I'm as open Kimono as they come. And any developer that wants my help devising a similar system for their own game just needs to DM me and I'll happily assist.
That reminds me, I gotta stop fucking around and get Subscribe Star set up. I've been so busy that I keep pushing this to the back burner and I really need to catch up with the times.
Oh, and about that blonde, yes, she's got stuff in the queue as well. I'm hoping with my new production pipeline I'll be able to finally start developing a couple of characters at a time.