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RomanHume

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When I was a wee "coder", my team and I built a prototype for a new interface. Management thought that we were done, because it looked pretty. They had no idea that there was still a ton of work left to do to make the UI do anything besides light a button up. Ignorance is rampant, even in professional circles.



I don't see that rule here: https://f95zone.to/threads/general-rules-updated-2020-02-08.5589/ . Where is it?
Preach.

I can at least see the light at the end of the tunnel. What started out as a simple, "I'll write to code to write me code" became a "I need to write this so that it won't break either."

To that end I've been adding a huge degree of functionality to the planner and trying to implement all the elements I had on my "wish" list so that going forward, when all I'm doing is creating content there shouldn't be anything to cause a save break. It should just be one smooth set of releases going forward.

I've also been re-coding much of what was already there. Trying to eliminate as many stored variables as possible and make the game more reliant on producing the information it needs at runtime. This will help eliminate those rollback failures that also pop up in old saves.

Renpy crams all of it's screens in one file, and all of it's styles and formatting in another. And then the images being referenced are all over the place. Having finally had my fill, I took a fresh install renpy and completely restructured the gui directories and files. My method is a lot less efficient than what Renpy comes packed with, but now all of the gui elements and screens are compartmentalized and you can change any of them without fear of it impacting any others.

Of course, I now have duplicates of some of the gui images spread all over the place, but if having six copies of the "scrollbar", one for each page it's used, and the total file size is still under a kb, then I figure the stability offered by the duplication is well worth the overhead.

So yeah, I'm doing a bit of a deep dive into this code. But the end goal is improved stability, no save breaking, and smooth releases as far as the eye can see. Just because you aren't seeing fresh images and content dropping like hot cakes, doesn't mean there isn't a shit ton of working being done.


On the upside, I've never seen this interface so polished!

When it's done, you'll have the ability to modify your character's stats as well as any stat for any character in the game. I'm also adding in a replay mode that will let you replay any chapter you've completed or any sex scene you've completed without impacting your current play through.

And if you turn cheat mode on, then you'll have access to all chapters and all sex scenes at any time. So I really am trying to get as much functionality in here as I can on what I hope to be the last coding I have to do on this game.

In fact, I'm literally working on it right now! Just don't tell the other boss what I'm doing on his time.

(And yes, that "Roger" tab will update to reflect whatever you name your character as will Emily and Ca....uh....Catherine's last name. You don't know Catherine yet...she's....I dunno....someone.)
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(And yes, that "Roger" tab will update to reflect whatever you name your character as will Emily and Ca....uh....Catherine's last name. You don't know Catherine yet...she's....I dunno....someone.)
How will you handle Cassie's last name? Will it always be Harighnton, or will it change based on Roger's?

Roger Johnson...Cassie Jonhgtons :ROFLMAO:
 
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Preach.

I can at least see the light at the end of the tunnel. What started out as a simple, "I'll write to code to write me code" became a "I need to write this so that it won't break either."

To that end I've been adding a huge degree of functionality to the planner and trying to implement all the elements I had on my "wish" list so that going forward, when all I'm doing is creating content there shouldn't be anything to cause a save break. It should just be one smooth set of releases going forward.

I've also been re-coding much of what was already there. Trying to eliminate as many stored variables as possible and make the game more reliant on producing the information it needs at runtime. This will help eliminate those rollback failures that also pop up in old saves.

Renpy crams all of it's screens in one file, and all of it's styles and formatting in another. And then the images being referenced are all over the place. Having finally had my fill, I took a fresh install renpy and completely restructured the gui directories and files. My method is a lot less efficient than what Renpy comes packed with, but now all of the gui elements and screens are compartmentalized and you can change any of them without fear of it impacting any others.

Of course, I now have duplicates of some of the gui images spread all over the place, but if having six copies of the "scrollbar", one for each page it's used, and the total file size is still under a kb, then I figure the stability offered by the duplication is well worth the overhead.

So yeah, I'm doing a bit of a deep dive into this code. But the end goal is improved stability, no save breaking, and smooth releases as far as the eye can see. Just because you aren't seeing fresh images and content dropping like hot cakes, doesn't mean there isn't a shit ton of working being done.


On the upside, I've never seen this interface so polished!

When it's done, you'll have the ability to modify your character's stats as well as any stat for any character in the game. I'm also adding in a replay mode that will let you replay any chapter you've completed or any sex scene you've completed without impacting your current play through.

And if you turn cheat mode on, then you'll have access to all chapters and all sex scenes at any time. So I really am trying to get as much functionality in here as I can on what I hope to be the last coding I have to do on this game.

In fact, I'm literally working on it right now! Just don't tell the other boss what I'm doing on his time.

(And yes, that "Roger" tab will update to reflect whatever you name your character as will Emily and Ca....uh....Catherine's last name. You don't know Catherine yet...she's....I dunno....someone.)
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Keep being the unicorn on Shia's shirt (magical If that isn't clear)
 

RomanHume

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How will you handle Cassie's last name? Will it always be Harighnton, or will it change based on Roger's?

Roger Johnson...Cassie Jonhgtons :ROFLMAO:
In the journal it appears as "Cassie H....something" with the H changing depending on...uh.....other...factors.

It's algorithmic man! But whenever you change Roger's last name it kicks off a quick script to update Emily and....her....
 
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RomanHume

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I like the little Nottravis thing on the planner, a subtle little shoutout to Notty ;)
I gave her credit for the inspiration from day one. Originally I had nothing like the planner in the game. But after playing H5 I saw the value of having an in-game database to help players keep track of characters and such. Then as I started to think about how many characters I had planned and how complex my story could end up, I realized that there was a huge value in having that kind of interface.

While our in game tracks function very differently and I built mine from the ground up, it was H5 that turned on the light!
 

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Came for Jane. Literally, symbolically and figuratively. Just wondering when she gets some new content.

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Come at me bruv! :KappaPride:
With the only difference that I could not order the first 3, I can see you are totally a dark lord of culture.

A post of mine from a few days ago.
Well I don't think I can pick only one.

So 1st tier would be Cassie, Jane and Nanami.
Very few talk about her but Nanami is amazing. Super hot, super interesting. Is nice to see a heroine with such a strong personality. She is amazing.
Cassie is of course pure love and she awakens a lot in me. I wanna protect her and totally defile her at the same time.
Jane is the friend I hope a daughter of mine would not have, cause I know she would be a danger to my self control. That attitude in a cute teen can be so irresistible, that I would end up screwings things up.

2nd tier Amanda. She is super cute. Honestly, I think she is great. Reason she is in second tier is that is hard to think of her in a lewd way. I want to cuddle and pet her, like I would do with a cute kitty.

3rd tier Lupita. To be totally honest the idea of sexually harassing her is very appealing. I mean, she clearly knows MC is kind of a pervert and she is incentivizing it. But yeah, who would not want to fuck a hot latina maid, even more with the wife and daughter in the house at the same time?

4th Tier Emily. Emily is actually great but for some reason the wife is usually one the least interesting characters in most novels. You know, this fruit is not forbidden, so it is less tasty. The only game in which wife was for me best girl is being cancelled ( Primal Instinct, pity)

5th Tier Monica. Honestly, I don't care at all about her. I don't care about her personality neither I find her hot. I actually hope the redhead that will appear in her route would take her place.
 

humanno21

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humanno21 pestering content creators about updates is expressly forbidden in the site rules.
That is BS. This is a topic about game on pirate porn games site, not his official Patreon page or any of his pages, and I wasn't talking to him, I was just discussing on this site about game.
 
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For your next big project RomanHume you could re-write renpy itself :D
If they tackle the issues of APKs created by RAPT only being capable of using one expansion file the people playing VNs with painstakingly detailed renders on fiddly touchscreen devices would be all over them, drowning them in money.
 
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humanno21

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Look dude, you show up here every few months and bust my balls about how long it takes for me to make the game. There are thousands of other games on this site. Go play one of them!
There is nothing to play because very few games of my preference progressed enough to be playable. Maybe about 5 games from whole site in 4-5 years since I have been here.
 
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There is nothing to play because very few games of my preference progressed enough to be playable. Maybe about 5 games from whole site in 4-5 years since I have been here.
If you don't like games. Don't comment on the threads about them. Just leave a review and leave.
 
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If you don't like games. Don't comment on the threads about them. Just leave a review and leave.
Look, if I didn't like the game, I wouldn't be her. This is one of few games that made me want to be supporter... but ... I think that devs cannot just take money and produce nothing for months... call me crazy... but I think that he needs to finds some way to compromise between his need to improve and learn as developer and releasing updates...
 

TheDevian

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Look, if I didn't like the game, I wouldn't be her. This is one of few games that made me want to be supporter... but ... I think that devs cannot just take money and produce nothing for months... call me crazy... but I think that he needs to finds some way to compromise between his need to improve and learn as developer and releasing updates...
You try working and being a solo dev, while learning several new pieces of software and how to code on top of it. See how quickly you put out your updates. Not everyone wants to churn out derivative content with store bought assets and quickie, low quality renders.
Quality over quantity and all that.
 

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Look, if I didn't like the game, I wouldn't be her. This is one of few games that made me want to be supporter... but ... I think that devs cannot just take money and produce nothing for months... call me crazy... but I think that he needs to finds some way to compromise between his need to improve and learn as developer and releasing updates...
He's been very clear after a few false starts trying to put together a team (in order to churn those regular updates) that as a solo hobbiest this would be a crawl. People can choose to fund him or not - he's been totally transparent about the process. If it's not fast enough for you and there aren't other interesting games, learn Daz and Renpy. I'll be happy to check on you every couple weeks and give some criticism how fast you aren't once you get started. Just let me know once you have a project going!
 
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