Aprilsun

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I'm not sure if tanning beds could get a complexion that dark (but I don't know anything about tanning beds). I was just thinking that if she found out something like that, what it would lead her to do or who she would get help from.
Tanning beds makes your skin darker than the sun can, so yeah Tracy is that dark from tanning bed.
 

Oneshot589

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you know i knda want an alternative story where one of the minor characters ex Marcus, The yoga master, etc find the spell instead of the mc or perhaps an alternative timeline where Tracy does find the spell but the order doesn't find out or are unaware its her and she has free reign of the Mom her Sister Latisha and her Aunt
 

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I'm not sure if tanning beds could get a complexion that dark (but I don't know anything about tanning beds). I was just thinking that if she found out something like that, what it would lead her to do or who she would get help from.
You must check all that gyaru and ganguro stuff popular in Japan.
 

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Tanning beds makes your skin darker than the sun can, so yeah Tracy is that dark from tanning bed.
What? You do realise that what you've stated here seems utterly illogical?

I agree that her skin colour is simply darker because she tans herself more, but sunbeds just recreate the UV rays which the sun has literally multi-millions x the amount & power of.
The sun is unquestionably, unequivocally more powerful than a light bulb, or the 20 or so UV strips found in a sunbed.
If either was going to have a more pronounced effect, it would absolutely categorically be the more powerful of the two options, which means it would be the sun, not the infinitely weaker sunbed.

However, your skin only has a certain pigment range & can only reach a shade of tan appropriate to your respective skin type/colour. Regardless of whether it comes directly from the sun, or recreated by a sun bed, once you've reached the maximum darkness that your skin can attain, it will not get any darker, regardless of how much longer you spend in the sun or sunbed.
The only thing that will happen, if you spend longer past the point of maximum pigmentation, is that your skin will age more quickly.
It will not & cannot ever exceed its maximum pigmentation & both options, sunbed & the sun, will reach that same point eventually.
Saturation point.

What you're suggesting is like saying that you have 2x 1 litre jugs, but filling them up via different methods allows 1 of them to hold more than a litre. It doesn't. They both hold 1 litre, end of.
 

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What? You do realise that what you've stated here seems utterly illogical?
I agree that her skin colour is simply darker because she tans herself more, but sunbeds just recreate the UV rays which the sun has literally multi-millions x the amount & power of.
The sun is unquestionably more powerful than a light bulb, or the 20 or so UV strips found in a sunbed.
If either was going to have a more pronounced effect, it would absolutely categorically be the more powerful of the two options, which means it would be the sun, not the weaker sunbed.
However, your skin only has a certain pigment range & can only reach a shade of tan appropriate to your respective skin type/colour. Regardless of whether it comes directly from the sun, or recreated by a sun bed, once you've reached the maximum darkness that your skin can attain, it will not get any darker, regardless of how much longer you spend in the sun or sunbed.
The only thin that will happen is that your skin will age more quickly, it will not ever exceed its maximum pigmentation.
Nice explanation, but the fact that IRL I know some girls who have much darker skin because of the tanningbed, tells me that @Aprilsun is right.
 
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Nice explanation, but the fact that IRL I know some girls who have much darker skin because of the tanningbed, tells me that @Aprilsun is right.
Well, that's the difference between an opinion and a fact. What you've stated is not a fact.
Darker skin than who/what? Themselves? lol
No-one gets darker from a sunbed than they could do from the sun. It's physically & genetically impossible.
Those girls you refer to would have the same darkness of skin if they had spent a similar amount of time in an appropriate amount of sunlight.
The reason a sunbed is a more reliable way to build up a base tan is because it is completely controllable (unlike the sun) & is not affected by environmental items which can restrict UV rays, e.g. clouds, pollution, rain etc.
This is a) precisely why you won't burn on a sunbed over the course of a normal timed session & b) precisely why people use sunbeds for a base tan before going out in the actual sun, not vice versa.
 
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Yes you can get pretty dark if you started off pasty using a tanning bed. Tracy either has godlike genes (likely) plus good lotion to the point where her tan is pretty natural compared to what you normally see. Which looks like a raisin.
 

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Regardless though with the tanning, it is possible for Tracy's skin to look that dark depending on many variables. Things like the products she uses or her genes can affect how dark her skin looks. Let's also consider that it might of been an artistic choice to make her skin look that way rather than anything else. As to whichone's comments, it does seem that what they say holds true as far as I'm willing to search up but we also have to consider where Tracy would go to get a tan. Depending on the area, sun bathing can take longer and not as dark than that of a tanning bed if for example, they live in a less tropical area. So UncleVT may be right that seeing girls that go through tanning beds may look darker simply because the area they live in isn't suited for such tanning. So in a way, you're both correct.

Now, still in the topic of tanning but more about the game itself, is anyone else curious what Tracy would look like without a tan? I'd be interested to see that personally.
 
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She looks and the family looks Hispanic to me. Most of my family goes from Alice white to Tracy brown so its possible genetics has a role here. As for the game, I....honestly might be more interested in how the story progresses next update then the threesome. Don't get me wrong that's pretty cool, but I want to see where Sin is taking Tracy. I doubt she's going to betray the MC, but I REALLY want to see where her story goes.
 

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I'm mean the Aunt has the same darker skin. Plus we still don't know what the Dad looks like.
 

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As to whichone's comments, it does seem that what they say holds true as far as I'm willing to search up but we also have to consider where Tracy would go to get a tan. Depending on the area, sun bathing can take longer and not as dark than that of a tanning bed if for example, they live in a less tropical area. So UncleVT may be right that seeing girls that go through tanning beds may look darker simply because the area they live in isn't suited for such tanning. So in a way, you're both correct.
That's the whole point I'm making mate; yes, you can get darker more quickly by using a sunbed than you would by lying in the sun, if you live in an area where the sun is not strong.
However you still cannot physically get darker than the pigmentation of your skin will allow.
UVA & UVB rays will only reach down to the epidermis, regardless of whether you get them from the sun, or a sunbed.
The melanin levels of your skin can only rise so far before they reach saturation point. This is achieved when all layers of your skin, from the epidermis to the outer layer have absorbed their maximum amount of melanin.
From there, your skin cannot & will not get any darker, regardless of method.

So saying that a sunbed will make your skin darker than the sun is categorically incorrect, even in the instance you provided.
Ultimately, both methods will eventually provide precisely the same amount of melanin in your skin. The only difference will be the amount of time taken to reach that point.
 

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Sure but hard to tell what kind of "white". Going by the pic he at least looks darker than the Mom.
 

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Tracy looks dark to me ... SO dad might be dark lol


PS plz let's not go down the road of White vs black BS .... tracy looks that way to me lol
 

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That's the whole point I'm making mate; yes, you can get darker more quickly by using a sunbed than you would by lying in the sun, if you live in an area where the sun is not strong.
However you still cannot physically get darker than the pigmentation of your skin will allow.
UVA & UVB rays will only reach down to the epidermis, regardless of whether you get them from the sun, or a sunbed.
The melanin levels of your skin can only rise so far before they reach saturation point. This is achieved when all layers of your skin, from the epidermis to the outer layer have absorbed their maximum amount of melanin.
From there, your skin cannot & will not get any darker, regardless of method.

So saying that a sunbed will make your skin darker than the sun is categorically incorrect, even in the instance you provided.
Ultimately, both methods will eventually provide precisely the same amount of melanin in your skin. The only difference will be the amount of time taken to reach that point.
Sorry, I should of elaborated what I meant a little. What I mean is "by comparison". While yes, there is a threshold to how dark your skin can get, in certain areas, it's unlikely for them to actually reach that through normal (or reasonable) amount of time sunbathing. So for example, assuming I live in an area where the sun isn't so punishing to an introvert, an hour out in the sun can get your skin to look lightly brown. So when you see people sun bathing, you would generally looks like this shade of brown. So in your eyes, this is how far sun bathing can get but in reality, it can get darker if they chose to sunbath somewhere else or for a longer amount of time. Then you see some people with a darker shade of brown and hear that they use tanning beds. You only assume that it tanning beds get you darker simply because the same amount of time sun bathing doesn't yield the same result. Adding on the fact, tanning beds are more accessible than setting up for a few sessions of sun bathing (which you'll need to get a decent tan). So yeah, I'm not disagreeing with your conclusion, just saying that perhaps the circumstances has people making the assumption that tanning beds get you darker but in the reality, it's more about location and time when it comes to sunbathing.

P.S, sorry about the extended essays. When I start really trying to explain something with as much details as possible to avoid confusion, I tend to go a little overkill.
 
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Sorry, I should of elaborated what I meant a little. What I mean is "by comparison". While yes, there is a threshold to how dark your skin can get, in certain areas, it's unlikely for them to actually reach that through normal (or reasonable) amount of time sunbathing. So for example, assuming I live in an area where the sun isn't so punishing to an introvert, an hour out in the sun can get your skin to look lightly brown. So when you see people sun bathing, you would generally looks like this shade of brown. So in your eyes, this is how far sun bathing can get but in reality, it can get darker if they chose to sunbath somewhere else or for a longer amount of time. Then you see some people with a darker shade of brown and hear that they use tanning beds. You only assume that it tanning beds get you darker simply because the same amount of time sun bathing doesn't yield the same result. Adding on the fact, tanning beds are more accessible than setting up for a few sessions of sun bathing (which you'll need to get a decent tan). So yeah, I'm not disagreeing with your conclusion, just saying that perhaps the circumstances has people making the assumption that tanning beds get you darker but in the reality, it's more about location and time when it comes to sunbathing.

P.S, sorry about the extended essays. When I start really trying to explain something with as much details as possible to avoid confusion, I tend to go a little overkill.
Entirely agree, absolutely.

P.S. Not a problem at all, as you probably gathered by my posts, I also have exactly the same tendency. ;)
Always better to have TMI than NEI (Not that yours is TMI). As the old expression goes: Better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it. lol
 
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from the walkthrough

"Day 8 • Alice’s shower scene • You’ll get thi scene only if you chose True Love at the end of EP3. • Different scenes will be available for the ’Obey Me’ route in the future."

i went in the shower and didn't get the scene with Alice, and yes i choose the True Love option. had only one shower scene with her on Day 7 when you can walk away or stay and watch

edit: nevermind i got the scene in the evening, thought the scene was supposed to be in the morning
 
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