LeopoldWilliamReynolds
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I want know about this too, I played all the paths, and I spent more than three hours for do it.
Rosa Melano
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you need to get caught peeping on her by just watchin option, not jerk off option, but if you choose the revealing outfit mom will give BJ to the editor, so i recommend to you avoid the revealing outfitHey Guys i need you help. After i start a new game and choosing the decissions to add lust points like the description in the walkthrought, i can't choose the revealing outfit in the shop on day 2.
I stay silent at marcus
peek till the end
look at ass
compliment the cleavage
and compliment her in the shop
but all of this results in the message from max "I don't think I managed to work her enough
. She won't accept it."
Whats wrong or is at a bug? I use last version from here "Ep 5 1.0b Elite"
Someone here with the same problem or maybe a tip or fix?
Thx and sorry for my english. It's not my native speech.
Major Wanker
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First off no im not a dumb fuck i support people for valid reasons yer update sucked but after speaking to sin i know why its been slow. Will wait until next update to judge him. And i come here to share games find new devs to support and laugh at people bitching . Also enjoy all the terrible puns on here
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Rosa Melano
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BrokenAJ
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I think i will just stop playing until episode 10 come out or something. I dont like playing just a little update and this episode ended in a huge cliffhanger
This is one of the most idiotic "arguments" you can make seriously, if you truly believe that to make criticism you need to actually make the stuff you are criticizing then you are a mental invalid.
source! I did not see the same dialogue in ep5 as in ep4... I saw plot progression, I saw character development, introduction of new character(s) into the story, advancement along those lines. I'm soo sorry you didn't get the wham bam thank you ma'am fuck you so desired the minute you clicked the button to start the "game" get over yourself and relax. ep5 WAS smaller than EP4. EP 3 was smaller than EP 4, but contained new information just like EP5 does! sigh.... I am tired of the whiners on here trying to make people look bad just because they don't get their way. I also do not mind people saying it wasn't good but for REAL reasons. and the "no progression" is bs... there is progression and it is seen!
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So tomorrow is the general release date, it's going to be out at 19:00 UTC
In this preview, you can see that something went wrong with Tracy, like it usually does. Hope you'll like the new episode!
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As always thanks to the anonymous patron.
p.s. I know all of us here already played, but I might as well post it.
the challenge is to show how good you could make it without your so called "MILKING" not that the only way you can criticize it. I too challenge anyone that thinks this is milking it to attempt to do this and see how it is. this isn't about just finding the right pre-rendered models there is a great deal more than this:
1) finding the right base models, dressing them, posing them and rendering the final image with the proper lighting and effects to make the scene work is just the first thing.
2) scripting is needed long before #1 so you know where you are going, this is just a frame work but this takes time.
3) fleshing out the script for the episode also takes time and it has to be made to fit the scene.
4) coding the content in the frame work of Renpy takes some time and it does not take a straight copy/paste from one word document to another. it takes knowing what coding to put around it so scenes don't mess up.
5) then compiling and then uploading it for people.
6) maintenance of the people working for you as well as the machines and for oneself. just because they get enough money not to have a day job doesn't mean they will work on the game 24/7 you have to sleep, go out, enjoy your life a bit otherwise the saying all work and no play makes johnny a dull boy... well it also means that without the mental break the quality of what is done goes down.
Please try it and see what it is when you are "milking" it yourself because otherwise you'd scream your head off and loose it.
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I'm not really entering in the milking discussion, because for a lot of people here all the devs are milking because they not delivery an entire new game every single month (who care that is not even possible).
However I can guess why Sin is going slower than usual.
He was forced to look for a solution. He probably tried to fix the old engine. He discovery that it wasn't possible. He decided to restart the engine project again with a new guy. So he selected the new guy, talked with him about the new engine and probably he is following him more close that the previous guy to avoid the same problems.
Am I right?
Squark ⚧❤️
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A small addendum, Freki.
7) Don't mention Kickstarter or other platforms like that, citing "One-Off payments". Kickstarter should be left for things that have TENS OF THOUSANDS of fans willing to help fund the game, like Shadowrun Returns.
8) Stop referring to it as "milking". It's getting old and tired. Is he getting money from you? No? Then you have no right to complain about it.
On point 2):
I completely agree. The scripting whould be done long before any actual art goes in, just in case you later decide "No, this scene just doesn't work" or something along those lines.
On point 4):
I've used Ren'Py. Structuring it in different script files means you can store a variable and jump to label in a different script. Then incorporate flags depending on the variable value in question. So, copy&paste isn't even needed. Granted, a game with hundreds of choices may make it a spider's web, but I don't see another option.
On point 5):
Sometimes the engine used can impact on the speed of development. Ren'Py's test functions may have been improved upon, but I remember them being less than optimal. To test a scene, one would have to start over and advance the scene to that point. Unless the problem was in the coding- in which case the compiler would crash out and show you an error log.
On point 6):
Yanderedev has also made this point, more than once. Just because he's a game dev does not mean he's a robot. He needs to unwind and to research games for ideas that can ADAPT for Yandere Simulator. One of the first ones he used this track for was a game called Natsuiro High School.
7) Don't mention Kickstarter or other platforms like that, citing "One-Off payments". Kickstarter should be left for things that have TENS OF THOUSANDS of fans willing to help fund the game, like Shadowrun Returns.
8) Stop referring to it as "milking". It's getting old and tired. Is he getting money from you? No? Then you have no right to complain about it.
On point 2):
I completely agree. The scripting whould be done long before any actual art goes in, just in case you later decide "No, this scene just doesn't work" or something along those lines.
On point 4):
I've used Ren'Py. Structuring it in different script files means you can store a variable and jump to label in a different script. Then incorporate flags depending on the variable value in question. So, copy&paste isn't even needed. Granted, a game with hundreds of choices may make it a spider's web, but I don't see another option.
On point 5):
Sometimes the engine used can impact on the speed of development. Ren'Py's test functions may have been improved upon, but I remember them being less than optimal. To test a scene, one would have to start over and advance the scene to that point. Unless the problem was in the coding- in which case the compiler would crash out and show you an error log.
On point 6):
Yanderedev has also made this point, more than once. Just because he's a game dev does not mean he's a robot. He needs to unwind and to research games for ideas that can ADAPT for Yandere Simulator. One of the first ones he used this track for was a game called Natsuiro High School.
@Squark in reference to point 4 i know you can copy paste, as the design uses a tabbed format for the code lines, but you still have to go through and enter each "jump" command and other commands and this takes lots of time some times even longer than writing the event in the first place (this is talking of debugging code line by line time into consideration as well )
thanks for the expansions.. and yes I agree with your #7 and 8.
)thanks for the expansions.. and yes I agree with your #7 and 8.
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It's interesting how 294 new renders aren't enough for some people. That's the item count in the EP 5 images folder...
That's about 10 renders a day for 29 days straight. I'm guessing that he already has that faster rendering machine. This won't help much with setup time for each scene, though. You still have to do that on you own, manipulating the figures for each pose and adjusting the camera angle as needed. Which of course follows picking/building/setting up the location in the first place, with lighting and any additional props that may be needed. Then of course there's the 'OK, now I have to ADD those 294 images to my RenPy script, and then test all this for errors' time.
Sure, it'd be nice if he'd fix a couple of the older errors, but yeah I have nothing but respect for anyone who can can generate that much content in a month. And HIGH QUALITY content no less! Sure, once you 'work out' how to get the 'look' you are going for, dialing in the quality becomes easier, but yeah, it still takes time.
And I'm sure that the developer has a life too, so I certainly expect him to take breaks now and then. With this many renders, I can see why he's taking on a team to help meet the demand.
And then there's this 'minigame' issue. I don't know the full details behind that, but if the developer was getting sidetracked trying to resolve that on top of everything else... and STILL managed to generate 294 new renders...
As pointed out before, this seems like a short update, but there were 3 separate paths that EACH needed a lot of artwork.
I only have one thing to say to the developer on this subject (besides keep up the good work):
RESPECT!
That's about 10 renders a day for 29 days straight. I'm guessing that he already has that faster rendering machine. This won't help much with setup time for each scene, though. You still have to do that on you own, manipulating the figures for each pose and adjusting the camera angle as needed. Which of course follows picking/building/setting up the location in the first place, with lighting and any additional props that may be needed. Then of course there's the 'OK, now I have to ADD those 294 images to my RenPy script, and then test all this for errors' time.
Sure, it'd be nice if he'd fix a couple of the older errors, but yeah I have nothing but respect for anyone who can can generate that much content in a month. And HIGH QUALITY content no less! Sure, once you 'work out' how to get the 'look' you are going for, dialing in the quality becomes easier, but yeah, it still takes time.
And I'm sure that the developer has a life too, so I certainly expect him to take breaks now and then. With this many renders, I can see why he's taking on a team to help meet the demand.
And then there's this 'minigame' issue. I don't know the full details behind that, but if the developer was getting sidetracked trying to resolve that on top of everything else... and STILL managed to generate 294 new renders...
As pointed out before, this seems like a short update, but there were 3 separate paths that EACH needed a lot of artwork.
I only have one thing to say to the developer on this subject (besides keep up the good work):
RESPECT!
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you would be so surprised when you got thousands of dollars in pledges without any advertising...
would you still be laughing? all the way to the bank maybe?
Adoringfan
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Lewd dood has undisputed quality too. Yeah the branching paths are annoying if you are a fucking noob with 1 save cause you can't video games very well. I think this game is shaping up nicely, I personally enjoy the branching paths as it adds more replay value per episode too. My only qualm is there is no need for the apparition guy at all. He sped up the scene with mom when it was going at a fine pace already. Since episode 1 I have been skeptical about the choice of plot device as it can really ruin a good story, hopefully it doesn't turn into a shitshow. I am optimistic though, also for episode 6 we need about 200% more sexy sandwiches kthx!