VN Ren'Py Dual Family [v1.22.1ce] [Gumdrop Games]

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When the game has been reduced to collecting lids and doing god awful puzzles x'D

Let's be honest, this has very little to do with the lack of porn, the story itself also sucks. The only redeeming factor is decent dialogue, but the choice of scenes and overall direction is terrible now.

Even the renders are suffering, with the close ups not helping at all when the skin textures (especially when wet) look so poor.

The skeleton gimmick pretty much encapsulates what this game has become: constant recycling of ideas. How many times have we listened to the same conversations? the game has been frozen for months now.

The scene with the aunt pretty much destroyed whatever hopes I had for a decent plot. Typical soap opera blackmail.

This game was deservedly hyped in the beginning since it had very promising early releases, but it's time to accept the reality. It's understandable, it's easier to come up with good ideas when the game is just being introduced, but it's considerably harder to explore those ideas further and deliver a finished product. I doubt that a dev now pressured by monthly releases will be able to overcome that. This is assuming he started making the game without having a completed story, which seems to be the case considering what the game has become.
 

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When the game has been reduced to collecting lids and doing god awful puzzles x'D Let's be honest,
You know what it feels like? It's as if he is a substance abuser that forgets most of what he worked on in previous sessions whenever he sits at the keyboard. Forgets work he's done, or hasn't done.

At any rate, this game is already getting shredded here and on /weg/. I could fix the story (including filling in all those time-leaps) and code the Renpy script on a 4 week deadline, if I worked 8 hours a day, but there'd still be renders to handle (no idea how long that would take, I'm just a writer/coder). We're talking Akabur-level delays to fix this. And if he made the effort now, he might still have fans waiting for him when he resurfaced in 3-4 months. But if he keeps on doing what he's doing, ... who knows?
 
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Erros

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Since every one agree here to say that they don't like how the game is set.
I can't help but say that in a certain way, yes, i like this game.

Yes, the game is full of holes and yes the story is a bit cranky. Yes after all those updates the story hasn't that much progressed.

BUT i still have hopes (a very little bit) about the game. We are (i hope) reaching the end of what we can consider "Act 1" since the platonic relationship is coming to an end. I think, hope and expect that after that the game will finally show us it's true nature ... a real fucking porn adult game.
More seriously, i hope that with the platonic relations ended the game will finaly move toward some more romantic feelings and erotism.

And BTW, yes, i'm still a patron ... and clearly not because i forgot to unpledge this month ...

(If in march we're still on the platonic relationship, i will clearly loose hopes to be totally honest)
 
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I like the game, but I understand people's gripes with it. I think the patreon month-to-month model hurts this game. The dev clearly has a story in mind that he wants to tell, but that doesn't translate well to monthly releases. Obviously there have been missteps in each release, but I think (I hope?) the game will be viewed more positively as a complete game. Because he is sticking to his plan and not letting people influence his production plan, it feels like the game is progressing slowly, but played fresh from the start I think it plays pretty well.

Unfortunately, because this is his first game and he doesn't have a track record of great games to fall back on, he can't release the game as a whole (like Tlaero and Mortze do over at Tora productions). If he were to stop releasing updates for 6 months or a year to release a huge update or finished game, he would likely lose a substantial amount of the support he has built up. So I think it's just a situation where the game will split people where some will like the game for what it is and hope that it reaches it's potential and others will hate it because it doesn't deliver on a monthly basis like other patreon games do.
 

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I like the game, but I understand people's gripes with it. I think the patreon month-to-month model hurts this game. The dev clearly has a story in mind that he wants to tell, but that doesn't translate well to monthly releases. Obviously there have been missteps in each release, but I think (I hope?) the game will be viewed more positively as a complete game. Because he is sticking to his plan and not letting people influence his production plan, it feels like the game is progressing slowly, but played fresh from the start I think it plays pretty well.

Unfortunately, because this is his first game and he doesn't have a track record of great games to fall back on, he can't release the game as a whole (like Tlaero and Mortze do over at Tora productions). If he were to stop releasing updates for 6 months or a year to release a huge update or finished game, he would likely lose a substantial amount of the support he has built up. So I think it's just a situation where the game will split people where some will like the game for what it is and hope that it reaches it's potential and others will hate it because it doesn't deliver on a monthly basis like other patreon games do.

Yeah i completely agree.

He may have set the bar too high for a first game. A lot of devs do that in adult content and sadly most of them ends up abandoning their game or even going through the 0.0.1.
 

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I'm actually quite baffled by all of the hate for this game. I played it for the first time last night, and I can't help but wanting more. I understand personal preference and such, but goddamn, it seems everyone's just too impatient. I don't know how the game's progressed, how long it's been out, or anything like that. All I know, is I think this is a REALLY good game, and definitely one of the best I've played (to be fair, I don't actually play many. I'm only invested in My Sister Mia, Daughter for Dessert, and Parental Love, currently)

I understand the fear/worry of the game taking too long to finish and taking too long to get real content in, but honestly, there's nothing any of us can do about that (other than completely abandon the game, which it seems the lot of you are doing)

Anyways, I guess I'll be one of the few that (continue to) enjoy it.
 
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I'm actually quite baffled by all of the hate for this game. I played it for the first time last night, and I can't help but wanting more. I understand personal preference and such, but goddamn, it seems everyone's just too impatient. I don't know how the game's progressed, how long it's been out, or anything like that. All I know, is I think this is a REALLY good game, and definitely one of the best I've played (to be fair, I don't actually play many. I'm only invested in My Sister Mia, Daughter for Dessert, and Parental Love, currently)

I understand the fear/worry of the game taking too long to finish and taking too long to get real content in, but honestly, there's nothing any of us can do about that (other than completely abandon the game, which it seems the lot of you are doing)

Anyways, I guess I'll be one of the few that (continue to) enjoy it.
Its not that people hate it. Its more that they are like Tiger moms disappointed in their son because instead of getting an A they get a C-. You'll see a lot of it has potential yada yada yada comments and its true. The game has the potential to be fantastic, but seeing as its your first time playing you have yet to experience disappointing updates and constant delays. A lot of us want to see it completed but its going to be awhile.
 

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Its not that people hate it. Its more that they are like Tiger moms disappointed in their son because instead of getting an A they get a C-. You'll see a lot of it has potential yada yada yada comments and its true. The game has the potential to be fantastic, but seeing as its your first time playing you have yet to experience disappointing updates and constant delays. A lot of us want to see it completed but its going to be awhile.
You make a good point. I have seen a ton of "this game has potential..." but it's also followed by intense criticism, for the most part. I guess until I do deal with the disappointing updated and delays (I'm used to delays with Parental Love), then I won't feel the same gripe as most everyone else.
 

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You make a good point. I have seen a ton of "this game has potential..." but it's also followed by intense criticism, for the most part. I guess until I do deal with the disappointing updated and delays (I'm used to delays with Parental Love), then I won't feel the same gripe as most everyone else.
That's the point of most of the criticism, especially on the son route. The game DOES have potential, but most of the content in the son route is him being depressed and almost no progress with any of the other characters, especially Mom since she's the central figure for him. It's like most of the updates are just him bein depressed somewhere else and that's not a good model and this has been going on for like 4 updates or something, so either the dev just wants to go on with ... and I can't believe that I really say that ... either milking or this guy had a good idea, but is incapable of continuing said idea.
 

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I'm actually quite baffled by all of the hate for this game. I played it for the first time last night, and I can't help but wanting more. I understand personal preference and such, but goddamn, it seems everyone's just too impatient.
You're missing a small but extremely important detail: Some people have been watching this game for 8+ months as it grew, shrank, and blundered. They're impatient because they've been waiting a very long time, far longer than people just now reading this VN. Impatience is completely justified in their case. They, like you, have been wanting "more" - only for them, it's been a year of deprivation.

You're trivializing other people's thoughts on the subject when there's a huge difference in perspective. Not to mention intimate knowledge and experience of the game and its developer that has been fostered all across 2017.
 

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I've followed this game from the first or second release and I actually agree with WillWagner here. By playing every 3rd update or so, I've always been satisfied with this. This never struck me as one that would end in copious amounts of sex scenes early anyway.
 
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I've followed this game from the first or second release and I actually agree with WillWagner here. By playing every 3rd update or so, I've always been satisfied with this. This never struck me as one that would end in copious amounts of sex scenes early anyway.
Do you include the remastered versions as updates lol? Jk I do the something. Its honestly the only way to feel like a lot has happened.
 

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  1. Funny, I thought that this was the end of "The Game" because both the Father and son have realized that the incestuous relationships they desired are entirely selfish and abuse the love and trust of their mother, sister or daughter.
 
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