VN Ren'Py Abandoned Dual Family [v1.22.1ce] [Gumdrop Games]

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Joshua Tree

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You are absolutely correct about it. I just tried to use a simple example to explain the general idea/work behind money laundering. ;)



Would be nice, like all Snapchat thots :LOL:
There is a lot of creators on Patreon (and of adult games on this very site), that risk share fate I would guess. For those running legitimate, filling tax papers and all that. Remember, the number you see on their patreon, is before mr tax man take their cut. Which in most places is a fair chunk. Just consider your own income tax, where ever you live in the world.
 
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Just wanted to drop by again and post again my money laundering explanation for this game.

Being a creator in Patreon means that you are paid for your services.
Being a developer and making a game makes you a creator.
Being paid for the service of creating a game is legal.
So, what better way for someone who needs to justify for tax purposes X money / X payments from X people than this and just bank them clean and sweet?

I am not suggesting that he is doing this, but IT COULD be a possible explanation.


In either case, this game and this whole situation is a farse.
 

Joshua Tree

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Just wanted to drop by again and post again my money laundering explanation for this game.

Being a creator in Patreon means that you are paid for your services.
Being a developer and making a game makes you a creator.
Being paid for the service of creating a game is legal.
So, what better way for someone who needs to justify for tax purposes X money / X payments from X people than this and just bank them clean and sweet?

I am not suggesting that he is doing this, but IT COULD be a possible explanation.


In either case, this game and this whole situation is a farse.
Yeah but that wouldn't really fly. Because... When need to file your tax papers. You have to state how much income you got from like Patreon in this case. And for laundry money to work. It kinda need to be some sort of walk in venue or a business where you could set up a lot of fake users/customers. Which in both cases doesn't apply for Patreon, unless you suggest Patreon is in on the scheme too.

Also, no, being a creator on patreon doesn't mean you are paid for your service. It mean's you can chose to support a creator. No strings attached other than what a creator promise if at all. In case of Gumdrop, he have a hard time hold his own dead lines and such. But that doesn't mean a breach of contract, just he broke his word. If you don't provide, you lose support. People vote with their money in that regard. There is nothing in the Patreon guide lines that state you are buying something or subscribing to a service when you support a creator. Look at streamers that use patreon etc, you don't really buy a service. And you can still watch their streams, even though you might get some shout outs and interaction with the streamer you wouldn't else being a patreon.

If you want an definition;

"Harkening back to old-school patronage, Patreon enables fans and sponsors to support artists and content creators.Patrons pledge to support artists and content creators on a reoccurring basis for each piece of content created (song, video, comic, writing, etc.), empowering a new generation of content creators the ability to make a living off of their passions. "
 

King Monkey Mon

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@F95 put an Abandoned tag on it and stop this damn milking scam. Keeping this on active or hold just destroys F95's (forum) reputation and their own rules!
best thing about this game is the thread seeing how the mom was created to be put in void of no progress tis a shame
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On his private website...
you gave this to him im so proud of you for seeing the light there are far better milfs out there
dude, the hell are you doing with your life... you could have written an entire thesis for the time and work you put to defend this dev.
thank you for reminding me why i put him on ignored i took him off since i forgot why i did now i remembered (y)
 

xןʞ

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the devs I work with aren't milking scam artists, don't @ me angry bois
 

dE_VoYd

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C'mon....I'm here to see the quarrels between Gumdrop defender/attacker......so far he is losing the battle but winning the war...
 

satoshi36

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No "Abandoned" tag huh? Makes you wonder if Gumdrop is a F95 mod...The conspiracy grows! This will be illuminati level $h!t one day!!!
He's not a mod but makes you wonder if is not a big ass donor for some -cough cough- i dunno pirate sites we all know...:whistle::unsure::censored:
 
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"Harkening back to old-school patronage, Patreon enables fans and sponsors to support artists and content creators. Patrons pledge to support artists and content creators on a reoccurring basis for each piece of content created (song, video, comic, writing, etc.), empowering a new generation of content creators the ability to make a living off of their passions. "
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Really @King Monkey Mon? Hahah an Anti-Nightcore version of the 'Dance with the devil' song by Breaking Benjamin. I am glad you reminded me of them, also just so you know, the quote on my signature is an altered quote from the movie "Bill & Ted's Bogus Journey" from the character of the Grim Reaper/Death and also the eerie last words from Robert Alton Harris.

- Quote from the movie, character Grim Reaper: [rapping] You might be a king or a little street sweeper, but sooner or later you dance with the reaper. [Twirls Scythe over his head and ducks so the blade doesn't hit it] Grim Reaper: Heh heh! Get down with your bad self!.

- Quote from Robert Alton Harris: "You can be a king or a street sweeper, but everybody dances with the grim reaper."
 
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Turret

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Wow, WTF is going on in this thread over the time it exists?! One thing is quite sure, we are witnessing the birth of a future Meme, it seems.
By the way, since we had it in a former post: Here are the only true Emperor and Vader. Helmut Heyne (RIP)dubbing the Emperor (Friedrich Ptok as younger Palpatine) and Heinz Petruo(RIP) (Christian Rohde dubbing in the Nos) speaking Vader. The first inserted "Nein" is actually quite good, but the screamed second should be cut out. The second link is for a vid with Heinz Petruo dubbing Vader. He is still the best voice of Vader.(Discussion about it naturally beginning :) )


 
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Dependable_223

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Last year he was making over 12000 a month and now it was dwindling around 8641 that is chunk he lost as long as it is over 3000 i dont really see how this will effect him. if it starts loosing majorly and his earning goes smaller then 3000 mark that is when he will prebably start releasing updates more frequently.

But even though his updates have been numerous now the update he did release is allot more in content then any other author. This game kind of resemblence like the wife and mother no real sexual content just story wise. It is too bad becuse render is really good.
 
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Joshua Tree

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Using a random definition or not. Doesn't make it any less true though. I never said Gumdrop not responsible for delays, or breaking his word. I don't see it helpful for verbal abuse towards him (or any other creator) though. It doesn't change anything. Vote with your money, that is your best argument. I stopped support him over half a year ago. Saying no one asked for the xmas release he did? Well, as a patreon you not really in a position to demand what the creator going to create. Whether you are patreon of some creator of an adult game, or someone running a silly youtube channel all about eating competitions or what not. Being a patreon of any content creator is a gamble in regard of what you get back of entertainment value. You should base your decision on what they delivered so far, but you would be silly not to consider when the last content were released as well.

I believe people got free will, and can draw their own conclusions without have to be told what they should and should not spend on. It's likely he got new patreons come to replace those leaving. Not that unthinkable new patreons tip his jar due to previous work. It's not like I wouldn't be inclined to buy a old game, or a movie etc Look up "D4: Dark Dreams Don't Die" on steam, I bought it fully aware the chance of a new episode was NILL. Over all his patreon numbers is declining. If his focus was just to have a cash scheme to get as much as possible, he doing that poorly. I'm not any more lenient towards Gumdrop than I am any other creator. For those that want an abandoned tag on this thread, why not just make a "on hold" tag, it held more true.
 

cold_arctus

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For those that want an abandoned tag on this thread, why not just make a "on hold" tag, it held more true.
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As you can see it is already on hold. An abandoned tag would be the "right" consequence after what muttdoggy said back in October:

Hey.. how about I put this argument to rest???

Here's my suggestion -
If January 25, 2019 passes without an update from gumdrop, I will mark this game as abandoned on January 26, 2019.
And the only way to reverse any "on-hold" and "abandoned" status is by gumdrop delivering an update to this game. And I don't mean 20 images and a few screens, I mean an update that must be well over 200 quality images and 1000 words larger than 0.98 CE.

This way, we can stop the milking arguments
Either Mod changed his mind about the abandoned tag or he is delaying it for a few extra days (maybe until Feb.)...

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
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