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- Oct 11, 2018
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it pisses me that someone is dumb enough to throw away their money that way
- Jul 13, 2017
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hold up, didn't gumdrops made a post a few months back that there was a definite release date around this time? or did he extend it again?
- Oct 11, 2018
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Yeah he failed that date since he had to make a pointless christmas episode that no one asked for.
- Nov 28, 2017
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- Jun 12, 2017
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is she hot tho ?
which one is gonna come out first, place your bets:
1. Mount and blade: bannerlord
2. Star citizen
3. Dual family update
4. Half life 3
And I'm one unfortunate person who played this game about a year ago not knowing what was going to ensue. Liked it very much, it was infact one of the first adult VNs I played, got attached, and now am stuck in the never ending whirlpool of waiting and disappointment.
This is the first time I am hearing this perspective. I so much hope you are right and this indeed is the case. Good for him, his plan is going accordingly in this case, his alternate site is up, just that he indeed delivers.I just want to start by saying: I like the game! It's one of the first games I played, along with DMD.
I know there are problems with it, just like any game. Maybe too dark (depressing) for some? The characters faces have been injected with anesthesia, hence they have no expressions. The transit between some of the scenes are a bit odd, but Gumdrops was onto something...that's why he garnered the support he did.
The following is just conjecture on my part:
1. Patreon came crashing down on incest content.
2. His game is called "Dual Family". He can always try changing it to DF, but that didn't work for DMD.
3. As of now, there has been no content that breaks Patreon's TOS.
4. The massive influx of support was to get to the content that Patreon has forbidden.
5. I don't remember the exact number, but before he paused development (to get new hardware) his earnings were under $1k I think, he spiked at around 12k a month
So, put yourself in his shoes...
You're making a decent amount of money, perhaps enough to buy a new car, buy some new electronics, pay off a debt or two, hire a hooker to beat you with a cricket bat (insert what you would do here)... you get my point!
Do you risk it by putting out new content?...or do you wait it out, build your own site, release raunchy images to keep the hype going, and financially secure yourself.
Conclusion:
Yes, he's been working on his game, but he will not release it until he feels he's earned enough or the support dies off.
People celebrating that his earnings have dropped to $7k a month... so what? That's still a decent amount. Some developers work there asses off and can't reach that amount (It's not fair to them, but life is never fair.)
Personally, I think in the long run he'll burn too many bridges and lose trust, which is very hard to regain. This update, as massive as it's supposed to be, will disappoint a lot of people. He's probably put too much pressure on himself to deliver as well, which might be leading him to second guess himself and keep pumping out renders to reach "Magnum Opus" status.
But then again, what do I know? I'm just some dude on the internet
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It was supposed to come out on or before January 25th, but he had to delay the release date because he took 3 weeks off from developing part X to make the Christmas episode. Logically you would think he'd delay the release date by 3 weeks, so the game would be out by now, but the January 25th release date was just more bullshit he fed his delusional patreon supporters in the first place and never an actual release date.
Lol why do people keep falling for that. It has nothing to do with patreon rules. You customize the the names and relationships, there's technically no incest. The game doesn't break any rules it has nothing to do with patreon.
And besides, he could just make a patch like every other developer here. People who think that patreon rules being a legit reason for these delays might almost be as delusional as his patreon supporters.
If he abandons his game and not milking, you would be ok with that? There are many other games you can play.
And no this game can't continue to Patreon. He can make another game with the same characters but it will not be Dual Family anymore. Many support this game for its incest theme and story and probably the dev didn't want to change it until now. I don't know what he will do in the future but it is his game and he will decide that. As you know Dual Family is updated almost every month before Patreon decides to take action against games of this theme.
Ok maybe i don't express myself very well. What i am saying is that i come here to discuss about the game and not about the dev and i believe that most people actually care about the game and not if the dev is nice guy or not. If i am wrong correct me. People accuse devs of incest theme games for don't update theirs games and milking ignoring the most important thing. PATREON RULES AND POLICY. Some devs don't want to change their games and many supporters don't want that also. So many games of that kind are abandoned or are on hold or progress very slowly.
For me, Dual Family too was one of my first adult VNs. I played VNs before, like Steins Gate or Heart of destruction, but DF was different and had a lot of potential! Frak, you could have done so much with it, but then gumdrop decided that milking the patrons was easier than truly going forward with the game.
It is telling that he still did not give a new release date, even if he said the Christmas special put him back three weeks and these 3 weeks are over. BUT still no update, not even a pending release date and this after a "I won´t miss the January date, because of so much time" blabbing by Gumdrop. As I wrote earlier, I believe he will impossibly late push out a shoddy update to milk a few months more and then abandon the game. Sad that a game with potential most likely ends like this.
If you look at my signature you see two (among others) of the games I like. Normally DF would be there as well, but I do not want to lead other users to possibly making pledges for such a disgrace of a developer. The only way a DF sig might one day be in my sig is with the addendum: DF is a good game, but it´s developer should be buggered daily for being the King of Milking and Lies.
- Mar 10, 2018
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The problem is that the last time there was something to discuss about this game (story or gameplay) was like 9-10 months ago. Since the last update, which launched around the time the dinossaurs roamed the earth, all we had to talk about were the dev's updates and posts filled with layers upon layers of the finest bullshit available.
So yeah, there ain't much to discuss besides milking techniques and stupid human beings.
Besides, those PATREON RULES AND POLICY stopped being a ''real'' problem a while ago. Since then, dev's and patreons have adjusted. Nothing that a landlady or neighbor can't fix.
Not for all devs and supporters. There are people and devs that want games to be original and not games that suppose to be something else with stories and dialogues which make no sense. I know that many people don't actually cares about story, dialogues, relashionships and such things but not all of them. MrDots stop DMD for that reason and many other not so popular games are abandoned. MrDots had said 1 year ago ""We knew this day would come eventually, and to be honest, I’m kinda glad that DMD is out of there. Patreon was killing my creativity, with all the censorship, the patches, and I’m not sure if my patience would have lasted much longer. "
Personally i don't care about devs posts and if they are milking or not. I will check again for this game after some months and i hope that the dev will find a solution to keep this game to its original theme outside of pateon.
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Some people are blind in their faith and hope. Even when a symbol of their faith puts shit in their hands and you say such a "dude, you have shit in your hands," they will tell you that you don’t understand anything, they hold the holy grail.