As I wrote in a post above, I am deeply suspicious about Fatcat and his sudden change of work. He was either a front or something like that, because it is far too convenient for gumdrop that the guy who suppossedly makes/made the animations just now changes work. "Such a happenstance, oh my!"Oh Christ really, Last Christmas Part 2... yay. If last year is anything to go by, it'll be something for us all to look forward to... in January. He couldn't even hit that deadline FFS.
Also love the vagueness of "FatCat has given his guarantee that he'll finish the animations before his leave in early 2020, as they've already been paid for". Early 2020? So Jan, Feb, Mar? Left that nicely open didn't they ladies and gentsThink he going for the full 2 years on this one
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Thats disgusting. Admin hello? Put some abandon tag in here and also note that gumdrop is a milker con artist.Oh Christ really, Last Christmas Part 2... yay. If last year is anything to go by, it'll be something for us all to look forward to... in January. He couldn't even hit that deadline FFS.
Also love the vagueness of "FatCat has given his guarantee that he'll finish the animations before his leave in early 2020, as they've already been paid for". Early 2020? So Jan, Feb, Mar? Left that nicely open didn't they ladies and gents
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I wonder how many people actually died while waiting for this game to come out.
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I can see it now. March comes around, Gumdrop says Fatcat has stopped working as an animator and didn't finish the animations or he rushed to get them done and the quality is bad or something like that. Now Gumdrop has to start all over on the animations from the beginning.
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Make them stop please, I'm gonna die from too much laughing before the end of this year
Yeah, your wallet, he need to buy himself another houseScamDrop said:
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So it turns out fatcat, who our resident shill Tree defended at all costs, is part of the scam. Funny how Tree has been wrong about literally everything, always defending the scam for some odd reason. Next time Tree is oddly defending something, remember how the things he was most defensive about turned out to be true. Might be a good time to revisit the idea that the whole scheme is a front for another, possibly illegal, business.
Now the scam is impossible to deny, and people expecting a release or thinking he is just a "milker" (instead of a scammer who has done zero work) will keep being taking advantage of. This is not a game, it hasn't been one for 2 years. To put this into perspective, it has been a scam longer than it has been a game (and calling a slide show with no branching a "game" is already pushing it). There won't be a release ever again, get over it already and stop calling him a "milker", call him a scammer.
Now the scam is impossible to deny, and people expecting a release or thinking he is just a "milker" (instead of a scammer who has done zero work) will keep being taking advantage of. This is not a game, it hasn't been one for 2 years. To put this into perspective, it has been a scam longer than it has been a game (and calling a slide show with no branching a "game" is already pushing it). There won't be a release ever again, get over it already and stop calling him a "milker", call him a scammer.
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I find it very interesting that gumdrop´s "white knight Josh Tree" is silent on that matter, I have not seen a defensive post these last few days. I remember quite well that among the longtimers on the thread there was deep suspicion about fatcat from the start, but esp. after gumdrop denied that the animations were done, when he had already posted excerpts of some of those "non-existing" animations before.
In hindsight it might have been an ooops of our special conman, him having forgotten that he posted some of it before. And the suspicions deepened after fatcat stayed completely silent after gumdrop dropped all responsibility for delays on him. Still Josh defended even the oddities about the whole set-up with gusto.
I am looking forward to see how he will try to twist the situation, if he does so at all.
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Jesus, this forum feels like a Jacob's ladder like nightmare that I inevitably end up returning to.
My question about the Christmas Update. Will this be a Christmas that took place BEFORE the already prequel Christmas? Or just a part two, AFTER the fact it's Christmas from last year? Cause I feel that at a certain point, just math wise, you can't argue that the son and daughter character would still be over the age of 18.
My question about the Christmas Update. Will this be a Christmas that took place BEFORE the already prequel Christmas? Or just a part two, AFTER the fact it's Christmas from last year? Cause I feel that at a certain point, just math wise, you can't argue that the son and daughter character would still be over the age of 18.
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if you read öast 2 pages you find out why.
proper question is: Will there be xmas update not what content it'll have.
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So basically you take GD's word for whatever, in regard of FatCat? Defended as in? People claiming he wasn't real and not an animator, that was proven wrong? And he actually was. For whatl we know, Fatcat could be done with whatever work GD did commission. Or GD did commission work at a much later stage than he claimed, whatever. If you going to base your "scam" claim in regard of FatCat on GD's words alone, you really lost your marbles. If you really want to make sure, why don't you contact Fatcat yourself with your accusations? Let me make it simple for you
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You really come across as the resident... local village flavor...
There is plenty of VN's on this site that have no branching etc, that get referred to as games. Are you running out of things to pile on top?
Oh and please remind everyone what I spoke up against? C'mon Winter, I'm sure you can manage to summon up some "pizza gate"...
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There is no TL;DR for this game, and it's developer.
Dual Family is currently in what I like to call the "Animation Saga".
After an 8 month development cycle that began March 2018; Gumdrop promises his FIRST release date on the day of October 9, 2018. Part X's original release was scheduled for JANUARY 25TH, 2019. Gumdrop gives himself a 3 month deadline between the announcement, and the release date. This is his reasoning:
"An absurdly large time cushion slapped on, ensuring if the game is released on a day other than January 25th, it’s BEFORE rather than after".
Some time after this announcement we have a paradigm shift where the development of Dual Family changed from waiting for the rendering of scenes, to the animation of scenes. This is also where we first hear the name "FatCat17", and his alleged collaboration with Gumdrop Games. The "absurdly" timed release date draws nearer, and Part X doesn't seem to be any closer to completion.
Enter "Last Christmas".
This stand alone game that was set before the main story of Dual Family was released Christmas time last year. To me, this is the official start of the "Animation Saga". At the end of this short update, Gumdrop makes the announcement that the original release date of JANUARY 25TH, 2019 will not be met due to the scope of the update. You can read his full explanation here:
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With a new development cycle being created, and it's previous release date being nixed... Dual Family: Part X finds itself in limbo once more. What follows is a string of development updates that centered around finishing even more renders. An alleged render count of 2803 images. The official completion of scene rendering was made February 25, 2019. In this post Gumdrop claims that: "Now that it’s complete, I’m more than happy to say the worst is over with; post-work won’t be serving the almost year-long sentence its predecessor, scene rendering did". Gumdrop breaks down these post-work tasks into 3 category's: Writing, Composition, and ANIMATION. And, here is where we find ourselves today.
Writing: Allegedly finished on April 28, 2019 in "Part X Dev. Update: Writing Done, Now Ann-E-May-Shun!"
This is where the gaps between dev. updates begin to start. And, not just dev. updates, but posts in general. From April 28, 2019 to July 19th, 2019; there were only 3 posts with only one being a development update.
Which brings us to our SECOND release date from a Development Update posted on July 19, 2019, and where this legacy hits a new bottom: September 10th, 2019. This release date is established, and with it it brings a 50 DAY drought with no information whatsoever. Complete radio silence.
Until the next development update posted on September 7, 2019, whose title could not be anymore perfect:
Final Part X Dev Update! (Sep. 10th Postponed)
In this update Gumdrop claims that Composition is complete, and all we have left for Part X's release is ANIMATION.
This is all the information we have on animations since the SECOND delay:
There are 10 animation sequences in Part X each having between 2-3 camera angles to render each as individual animations. Which brings the number up from 10 to potentially 30 animations. The majority of animations Gumdrop has commissioned from the animator "FatCat17" have been posed. BUT, the majority of animations have NOT been rendered; this includes the final two animations yet to be posed. We know some previous animations had to be re-worked by Gumdrops request. "FatCat17" will not be animating for Gumdrop anymore by early 2020, but has vowed to finish his commissioned work before he quits.
NO RELEASE DATE AVAILABLE.
That small pool of information is all we have. This collaboration has been going on for more than a year, and that is all Gumdrop Games has to show for it. No detailed progress. No release date. No information. The person responsible for this delay is quitting soon. Gumdrop Games shows no signs of urgency, or entertains the idea of alternative measures such as releasing Part X without ANIMATIONS. It's all just "He's not done". It's clear Gumdrop Games is in no hurry of releasing this "Golden Goose" just yet. It seems there is always something in the way.
With all the information given above it seems reasonable to think that Gumdrop is planting the seeds for the next big delay come time for "FatCat17" to change vocations.
That is the TL;DR. All information comes from developer updates that can be found on this very thread. I know that Mods have posted a warning about this game on it's front page, but I really wish they would remove the link to Gumdrop Games' Patreon, and replace it with another warning.
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Tag this in the OP as the news tldr for the newcomers, please.
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faster than gumdrop renders. few days to few weeks depending comp and amount of animations.
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I think the better question is why would someone even waste their time with making 8k/16k renders in 2019? Completely unnecessary, I could understand 4k, but anything more than that is just a waste of time. And obviously this is just a question in general and not a question to gumdrop, since gumdrop is not even making any renders right now in the first place and it's just another one of his lies to keep his sheep subscribed.
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Goddamn do I need to tag this in the next Captain's Log, couldn't have said it better myself.
'CaN'T wAiT fOr ThE nExT cHrIsTmAs SpEcIaL tHo GuYz!'