Sara04

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So found a glitch where when u level up, if u go to a different screen, say "Party Management", while on the level up screen and press back to return, your stats from before dont get reset. So it lets u get high health and stats.
Nice one. I've added some code to disable the back button on the page after Level Up and to disable the menu items during Level Up.
 

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Nice one. I've added some code to disable the back button on the page after Level Up and to disable the menu items during Level Up.
Could you add the option to skip puzzles?
It's annoying sometimes if you didn't follow/read word-by-word.
Especially when there's some puzzles have infinite loop that can trap you in.

By able to "skip" the puzzles, not only convenient players, it can lessen the requirement for you to design well-thought / dedicated puzzles that covers all angle - which should make your development easier.
 

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Could you add the option to skip puzzles?
It's annoying sometimes if you didn't follow/read word-by-word.
Especially when there's some puzzles have infinite loop that can trap you in.

By able to "skip" the puzzles, not only convenient players, it can lessen the requirement for you to design well-thought / dedicated puzzles that covers all angle - which should make your development easier.
I'm struggling a bit with this one. I might be able to do that for some puzzles lots of people have trouble with, but this is a D&D game. D&D games are puzzles and fighting. I'm trying to minimize the fighting... if I minimize/skip the puzzles then it isn't really a D&D game is it?

So yeah if you give me a few puzzles you are having trouble with I can probably add a skip button for them...
 
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Any chance of bust size increases later on down the line when playing full fem?
There are a couple of pregnancy paths that will have the natural size increase from pregnancy. For more unnatural growth there is currently a cow path and there will be a second way to get on that path in the upcoming release. As for other places... maybe? Got somewhere it fits well?
 

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I'm struggling a bit with this one. I might be able to do that for some puzzles lots of people have trouble with, but this is a D&D game. D&D games are puzzles and fighting. I'm trying to minimize the fighting... if I minimize/skip the puzzles then it isn't really a D&D game is it?

So yeah if you give me a few puzzles you are having trouble with I can probably add a skip button for them...
D&D games are about role-playing and unique+customised experience. "Puzzle" and "Fighting" are tools to create immersion / engagement, not the other way around.
When people want to skip the puzzles / fighting, it means they are not fun / engaging.
Especially for this kind of porn game, where you are "required" to replay basically the same thing, over and over again.

I know that's not something easy to solve for this kind of games, hence suggested the solution.
And an "Skip Option" is an "Option", it's about giving player the choice. It has nothing to do with "neglecting your puzzles".
Not to judge your philosophy / ideals, just from the gameplay aspect.

If you still need a list: any puzzle that need more than 5 steps / has infinite loop
 
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D&D games are about role-playing and unique+customised experience. "Puzzle" and "Fighting" are tools to create immersion / engagement, not the other way around.
When people want to skip the puzzles / fighting, it means they are not fun / engaging.
Especially for this kind of porn game, where you are "required" to replay basically the same thing, over and over again.

I know that's not something easy to solve for this kind of games, hence suggested the solution.
And an "Skip Option" is an "Option", it's about giving player the choice. It has nothing to do with "neglecting your puzzles".
Not to judge your philosophy / ideals, just from the gameplay aspect.

If you still need a list: any puzzle that need more than 5 steps / has infinite loop
That's a good way to look at it. And I'm not really opposed to adding skips for specific puzzles. Just need to understand which puzzles to do it for. I'll look though for you suggestions, but what others call a puzzle I call just story. I asked on the Discord and someone said "The Maze" which as far as I know didn't exist. Turns out they were getting turned around in a dungeon and didn't know about the map feature.
 
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Hello.

D&D games are about role-playing and unique+customised experience. "Puzzle" and "Fighting" are tools to create immersion / engagement, not the other way around.
When people want to skip the puzzles / fighting, it means they are not fun / engaging.
Especially for this kind of porn game, where you are "required" to replay basically the same thing, over and over again.

I know that's not something easy to solve for this kind of games, hence suggested the solution.
And an "Skip Option" is an "Option", it's about giving player the choice. It has nothing to do with "neglecting your puzzles".
Not to judge your philosophy / ideals, just from the gameplay aspect.

If you still need a list: any puzzle that need more than 5 steps / has infinite loop
Can you enlighten me about this?
I've read on many game threads that everybody come here to play games to have something different from porn. But everytime there's some mecanism to make it a real game, they want to cheat/skip/use a walkthrough mod/look to the images in the folders directly without playing/use the console and get the lewd content directly without any effort : meaning they don't care about the games at all, they just want to fap. So what's the difference between porn and that then. Because each of them is killing the gaming aspect for me.
It's like meeting the sphinx and going through without answering the riddles or playing the first Sonic, using a cheat to go near each crystal to take them directly and unlock the special level without going through everything.
The only case it can be useful is when it's repetitive like the work mini games of The Family's Curse or High School Days. But in this game, the only problem is the roll of the dice (and the back button is perfect for that).
Sorry to have used your post like that but that's something I have on my mind recently and took the opportunity to ask.

Good continuation.
 

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There are a couple of pregnancy paths that will have the natural size increase from pregnancy. For more unnatural growth there is currently a cow path and there will be a second way to get on that path in the upcoming release. As for other places... maybe? Got somewhere it fits well?
Hm? There's a cow path? o_O On that note, considering there are magic curios in some of the shops it wouldn't be odd to find something that would cause a bust size increase, it could probably tie into another way to go on the cow path.
 

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Hm? There's a cow path? o_O On that note, considering there are magic curios in some of the shops it wouldn't be odd to find something that would cause a bust size increase, it could probably tie into another way to go on the cow path.
It's fairly new. Right now you need to escape with the countess from the Duke sex slave path. There will be another way to get on it in the next release...
 

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That's a good way to look at it. And I'm not really opposed to adding skips for specific puzzles. Just need to understand which puzzles to do it for. I'll look though for you suggestions, but what others call a puzzle I call just story. I asked on the Discord and someone said "The Maze" which as far as I know didn't exist. Turns out they were getting turned around in a dungeon and didn't know about the map feature.
It's all about "skip the repetitive boring part".
If every step in the puzzle leads to something different / meaningful, then yeah it's not something you should "skip", and the "replay value" will be there.
But the fact is most of the time you just click a button to get into the next part.
I was trying to see different scenarios, and immediately get annoyed that you can't easily skip thru the contents you've already seem.
(Yeah I actually meant every puzzle, "The Maze" is just one of the worse since there can be infinite loop - and the map doesn't really solve the issue that you can't directly see and click on it)

Oh yeah the "sphinx solution" is actually pretty neat, by playing around the concept / consequences of "skip the puzzle".

Hello.


Can you enlighten me about this?
I've read on many game threads that everybody come here to play games to have something different from porn. But everytime there's some mecanism to make it a real game, they want to cheat/skip/use a walkthrough mod/look to the images in the folders directly without playing/use the console and get the lewd content directly without any effort : meaning they don't care about the games at all, they just want to fap. So what's the difference between porn and that then. Because each of them is killing the gaming aspect for me.
It's like meeting the sphinx and going through without answering the riddles or playing the first Sonic, using a cheat to go near each crystal to take them directly and unlock the special level without going through everything.
The only case it can be useful is when it's repetitive like the work mini games of The Family's Curse or High School Days. But in this game, the only problem is the roll of the dice (and the back button is perfect for that).
Sorry to have used your post like that but that's something I have on my mind recently and took the opportunity to ask.

Good continuation.
I can't speak for others. But I don't think those just wanna see porn are the same group that complains about "no gameplay".
And my reasoning is pretty much just as above. It's annoying to go thru the repetitive part of the game that you can't skip.

Also, the reasoning behind why someone wanna skip / walkthrough / cheat is not always the same, sometimes it's the player, sometimes it's the game.
Example, maybe the game itself is confusing, grindy, repetitive, the gameplay part is poorly implemented, the story is bad but the porn is good. etc;
maybe the player like to use cheats to see "big numbers", maybe they like to break the game, maybe they like shortcuts, maybe they just like part of the game and don't wanna see other parts.

"Why a porn game, not just directly porn?" For me, there's 3 different scenarios
  • If play for porn, then the engagement / immersion helps better build up the mood
  • If play for the game (this is quite rare, since I've high standard of a normal game), then the porn will be the cherry on the top. Especially there are some that integrates the porn as part of the "gameplay" amazingly well.
  • Most of the time is the middle ground - porn games have their unique charm that you can't get from other type of games, even if the "gameplay" is......not there.
 
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It's fairly new. Right now you need to escape with the countess from the Duke sex slave path. There will be another way to get on it in the next release...
Oh no, if memory serves right that is a pretty long ass way just to get to see that new bit of content.
 

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Hello.

It's all about "skip the repetitive boring part".
If every step in the puzzle leads to something different / meaningful, then yeah it's not something you should "skip", and the "replay value" will be there.
But the fact is most of the time you just click a button to get into the next part.
I was trying to see different scenarios, and immediately get annoyed that you can't easily skip thru the contents you've already seem.
(Yeah I actually meant every puzzle, "The Maze" is just one of the worse since there can be infinite loop - and the map doesn't really solve the issue that you can't directly see and click on it)

Oh yeah the "sphinx solution" is actually pretty neat, by playing around the concept / consequences of "skip the puzzle".


I can't speak for others. But I don't think those just wanna see porn are the same group that complains about "no gameplay".
And my reasoning is pretty much just as above. It's annoying to go thru the repetitive part of the game that you can't skip.

Also, the reasoning behind why someone wanna skip / walkthrough / cheat is not always the same, sometimes it's the player, sometimes it's the game.
Example, maybe the game itself is confusing, grindy, repetitive, the gameplay part is poorly implemented, the story is bad but the porn is good. etc;
maybe the player like to use cheats to see "big numbers", maybe they like to break the game, maybe they like shortcuts, maybe they just like part of the game and don't wanna see other parts.

"Why a porn game, not just directly porn?" For me, there's 3 different scenarios
  • If play for porn, then the engagement / immersion helps better build up the mood
  • If play for the game (this is quite rare, since I've high standard of a normal game), then the porn will be the cherry on the top. Especially there are some that integrates the porn as part of the "gameplay" amazingly well.
  • Most of the time is the middle ground - porn games have their unique charm that you can't get from other type of games, even if the "gameplay" is......not there.
Thanks a lot for the explainations, though I'm still lost.

Good continuation.
 

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Reached the end of the corrupting the countess path, and i cannot wait for more. Willingly submitting to a bad guy and then helping him dominate others is such a rare niche that i absolutely adore.
 
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I'm struggling a bit with this one. I might be able to do that for some puzzles lots of people have trouble with, but this is a D&D game. D&D games are puzzles and fighting. I'm trying to minimize the fighting... if I minimize/skip the puzzles then it isn't really a D&D game is it?

So yeah if you give me a few puzzles you are having trouble with I can probably add a skip button for them...
Why does it matter if you put in a skip for all the puzzles?

And a skip for all the combat?

If someone wants all, they play all.

If they can't be bothered with a puzzle or a combat, they skip them.

They might enjoy the story, the setting, sexy fun times.

If they wanted a D&D game they might go play solasta ;-)
 
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Why does it matter if you put in a skip for all the puzzles?

And a skip for all the combat?

If someone wants all, they play all.

If they can't be bothered with a puzzle or a combat, they skip them.

They might enjoy the story, the setting, sexy fun times.

If they wanted a D&D game they might go play solasta ;-)
A lot of it has to do with what I'm trying to do here. And that is to make a D&D tabletop type game, not make Solasta or Baulder's gate. Don't get me wrong those are great games, but they only let you do a very limited set of things. With a tabletop experience and what I'm trying to replicate here you can go way off in the weeds. You can explore dead ends. You can do stuff the DM never intended (and there is a lot of that in this game). And to me part of that has always been puzzles that you have to go off and find a McGuffin to solve which is often where you end up in the weeds for hours making some of the most fun memories in the game.

But I will probably end up adding some skips in a few places (I already have a couple from some really trigger warning type scenes so what is doing it for some hard puzzles?) cause people are asking for it. But at the same time it's not really in line with the kind of game I want to make. That's why I'm struggling with it a little and also why I'm asking for where people need a skip button cause in a way the whole game is one big puzzle to me and I'm assuming that if you bothered to download it you don't want to skip the whole thing.
 
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Hello.

Why does it matter if you put in a skip for all the puzzles?

And a skip for all the combat?

If someone wants all, they play all.

If they can't be bothered with a puzzle or a combat, they skip them.

They might enjoy the story, the setting, sexy fun times.

If they wanted a D&D game they might go play solasta ;-)
Have you tried it yet? It's an adventure game with RPG elements, not a vn. If you skip puzzles and combats, all that's left are the shops to help you on your adventures (i.e. puzzles and combats) and the sex scenes : meaning it loses it's identity as a game. I can understand making things easier but skipping kills the core of the game itself. That's exactly why I was asking that question previously : what's the point of playing a game if you just want the porn (and only your kinks by the way...) and nothing else?

Good continuation.
 

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A lot of it has to do with what I'm trying to do here. And that is to make a D&D tabletop type game, not make Solasta or Baulder's gate. Don't get me wrong those are great games, but they only let you do a very limited set of things. With a tabletop experience and what I'm trying to replicate here you can go way off in the weeds. You can explore dead ends. You can do stuff the DM never intended (and there is a lot of that in this game). And to me part of that has always been puzzles that you have to go off and find a McGuffin to solve which is often where you end up in the weeds for hours making some of the most fun memories in the game.

But I will probably end up adding some skips in a few places (I already have a couple from some really trigger warning type scenes so what is doing it for some hard puzzles?) cause people are asking for it. But at the same time it's not really in line with the kind of game I want to make. That's why I'm struggling with it a little and also why I'm asking for where people need a skip button cause in a way the whole game is one big puzzle to me and I'm assuming that if you bothered to download it you don't want to skip the whole thing.
If that's your struggle, here's the more difficult to achieve solution, which is IMO the best option (but difficult for developers):
Make every choice count, whatever you choose in those puzzles, leads to some sort of outcome - not just filler "next step button" - so everytime you replay, you don't want to ever skip since it'll be something different.
That's what D&D tabletop type game is about - every campaign is different.
And that's why I asked for a skip button to skip the same chores you need to click thru - which becomes boring after first time.
 

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Here are the current paths:
* Abyssal Plane
* Demon
* Dungeon
* Elena = Marquesses = Duke's Daughter
* Guard
* Duke Sex Slave
* Sub path: Corrupting the countess
* Maid -> ends into several others
* Court Wizard
* Client Business associate
* Client Slave
* Duke's Slave (running jobs, not sex, but there will be some of that too)
* Old Woman
* Other Wizard (this is the only path you can entirely avoid sex on)

If you end up as your friend's slave there are some other scenes depending on other choices. For example:
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I'm going to add more events that occur between quests, just haven't gotten around to it.
Hi, just wondering - what's the 'client slave' path mentioned above? I haven't played in a few versions, and I'm only aware of the duke's slave and friend's slave paths.

Also, if you don't mind answering another couple of quick questions, what's the 'old woman' path? And how long is the wizard path (the one where you're a maid first, then has you brought to him in the night, or something similar) these days? Preferably without going down the demon path, that I think I read about on here
 
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