VN Ren'Py Elmwood University [Ep.4 Gold] [WickedWare]

[Dr.TSoni]

the other one is a bitch, with whom i want to have nothing to do with.

If you use the lie detector skill, she is still convinced that MC broke into Katie's room

 

[Lovemaking]

sounds pretty much just like walking dildo/3rd wheel to me.

Pretty much. MC's pursuing Lesbian couples has a lot of potential in games. But it's sadly never executed in the right way as it always ends up as either MC sitting in the cuck chair with his micro penis beating it or like you said. That MC is a walking dildo that gets treated like dirt.

(the most used scene is literally when MC gets used and then gets thrown out and they continue without him) Personally i couldn't give less of a fuck about lesbian couples in games as i never pursue them. Just a lot of drama and bickering.

 

[Raziel_8]

If you use the lie detector skill, she is still convinced that MC broke into Katie's room

I use the skill, but don't remember that in particular.
But then, i'm not surprised. She has a hate boner against straight men, like the first scene where you are forced to make a promise to that bitch...as if being a straight man means, that by default, you don't care about consent...she is the toxic kind of feminist no one needs, as opposed to Katie and co.

Pretty much. MC's pursuing Lesbian couples has a lot of potential in games. But it's sadly never executed in the right way as it always ends up as either MC sitting in the cuck chair with his micro penis beating it or like you said. That MC is a walking dildo that gets treated like dirt.

(the most used scene is literally when MC gets used and then gets thrown out and they continue without him) Personally i couldn't give less of a fuck about lesbian couples in games as i never pursue them. Just a lot of drama and bickering.

Yeah, that's as most games do it, add to it i have no interest in lesbian scenes either way...so yeah, no interest.

In this game, i just find them to be a useless addition to the already bloated LI list.
We have several bi LI's for all who want some of that, also throuples, partial harem etc for pretty much any other girl/group...so i just don't see whats the point of adding a men hating lesbian couple as LI's.
Maybe the dev has some more interesting paths planned for them, but i doubt it.

 

[Lovemaking]

i have no interest in lesbian scenes either way

Same but mainly because 90% of lesbian scenes are so goddam boring. Straight up snooze fest.
Only thing i do enjoy is when women kiss each other :shrug: idc that's hot asf, but that's about it really.

But i will say that there is A LOT and i mean A LOT of potential with lesbian scenes that would make them less boring. But idk devs seem to be allergic to creativity and actually including hot things.

 

[AlexMpog]

In this game, i just find them to be a useless addition to the already bloated LI list.
We have several bi LI's for all who want some of that, also throuples, partial harem etc for pretty much any other girl/group...so i just don't see whats the point of adding a men hating lesbian couple as LI's.
Maybe the dev has some more interesting paths planned for them, but i doubt it.

Well, hypothetically, if I could romance only Chloe and steal her from Jordan, I’d 100% try it. Additional bonus points - if I get a chance to rub it in Jordan’s face afterward and say, - "See, I got Chloe’s consent" .
Though I doubt it'll be the case here, it’s probably gonna be an all-or-nothing deal.

 

[Macky009]

I use the skill, but don't remember that in particular.
But then, i'm not surprised. She has a hate boner against straight men, like the first scene where you are forced to make a promise to that bitch...as if being a straight man means, that by default, you don't care about consent...she is the toxic kind of feminist no one needs, as opposed to Katie and co.

Jordan is the definition of toxic lesbian girlfriend. If there is a chance to steal Chloe from her i'm doing it in a heartbeat.

Why the fuck did I put her on friendzone. Oh yeah because Chloe is chill person and think of them as a package deal.

 

[Raziel_8]

Well, hypothetically, if I could romance only Chloe and steal her from Jordan, I’d 100% try it. Additional bonus points - if I get a chance to rub it in Jordan’s face afterward and say, - "See, I got Chloe’s consent" .
Though I doubt it'll be the case here, it’s probably gonna be an all-or-nothing deal.

Same for me, stealing Chloe, rubbing it in the bitch's face and humiliating her would be so great
But yeah, i doubt the dev will do it, which is a damn shame. Skills like corrupt, ownership, domination, cum addiction etc are
the perfect setup for doing things like that.

 

[Macky009]

Edited my tier list

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[Raziel_8]

Hm, my list after replaying would be like that

 

[Superocco]

But then, i'm not surprised. She has a hate boner against straight men, like the first scene where you are forced to make a promise to that bitch...as if being a straight man means, that by default, you don't care about consent...she is the toxic kind of feminist no one needs, as opposed to Katie and co.

And in all honesty, that's such an annoying internet cliché to begin with, most of my friends are queer and feminist, and I've yet to meet and/or encounter someone who has such extreme views against men. I mean real people, not a fake persona that you use on social media. It's like the annoying stereotype of Nina calling you gay when you show even an ounce of care or affection, as if 1) being gay is an insult (like really, using gay as something pejorative in the big 25?), and 2) being emotional or respectful is any less 'manly'.

I just wish that the MC could somehow stand up against the stereotype that Jordan has painted over him. Not by being rude, or insulting, or saying mean things; just being totally honest and somewhat 'assertive', and telling her straight to her face that, if she wants at least a friendship on equal footing, she needs to stop having a preconceived idea of how straight men are, and respect you just like you're respecting her, despite her judgment, especially if you're showing her from the beginning that you're far from what she believes every hetero male is.

I also agree with the sentiment that, if the whole thing with Chloe and Jordan comes as a package deal (which I'm not against), it should start to be handled differently to be an interesting path, and not feel like a 'walking-dildo/third-wheel' one. Not only does Jordan have to start treating you like a normal person, both of them also have to understand that the best way to get to know someone isn't inviting them just so that you can flirt in front of their faces all the time. I know you're a couple, it's totally cool, and I get shows of affection, but does everything have to revolve around how the two of you have the hots for each other? Or, how you're constantly thinking about eating each other out? Instead of, I don't know, having a normal chat to get to know each other? Or maybe I just have an ancient outlook on friendship, I don't know, but that's definitely not my go-to topic of conversation nor the way meetings with people who are together usually go for me.

Some devs need to understand that a lesbian relationship is, at the end of the day, another relationship, in the sense that there are things you usually display in public, and other stuff that you save for yourselves in the intimacy, in order to not make those around you uncomfortable, and to respect the time that they're spending with you. But for some reason, the mindset is always like "well, they're lesbians, so you're cool with absolutely everything, right?"

 

[snakeplisskin]

I will update my list, in the middle of a replay.

 

[Lovemaking]

And in all honesty, that's such an annoying internet cliché to begin with, most of my friends are queer and feminist, and I've yet to meet and/or encounter someone who has such extreme views against men.

Literally same!

I speak from experience and THEY. DO. NOT. CARE. (or sure they may care but not like you said in the extreme views against men way)

Tho I'm swedish so it's probably just an american thing lol

 

[Lovemaking]

Hm, my list after replaying would be like that
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Very solid list.
Personally, the way Molly hates MC i would have her in Avoid or just no. But the fact that she's blonde and has attitude she's up there in best girl for me. And because the love hate relationships always goes hard.

 

[Irgendwie Irgendwo]

Chelsea could be a great "main" partner for a playboy MC, but that's not something I ultimately go for, even in AVNs.

Chelsea might break out as that towards the end if you read her profile. Essentially she seems to be a "Wild Katie".

 

[Superocco]

Literally same!

I speak from experience and THEY. DO. NOT. CARE. (or sure they may care but not like you said in the extreme views against men way)

Tho I'm swedish so it's probably just an american thing lol

I'm Spanish and maybe it's indeed a cultural thing, because one of the reasons why my best friends are part of the LGBTIQ+ community (or friendly at least) is, above all, how much they respect people with common sense and who are respectful in return. They're definitely not judgmental in the slightest just because how you identify yourself, which is why it baffles me that in this game, instead of giving us a proper and progressive lesbian relationship, they gave us the worst and most used stereotype they could think of.

 

[Zorro#34]

Chelsea might break out as that towards the end if you read her profile. Essentially she seems to be a "Wild Katie".

I know, part of the reason why I singled her out is because I'd read her profile. Still, not my story, as
a) Lydia has influence on her and I don't think we'll be able to break them up if going for Chelsea as the endgame.
b) Why go for a Wild Katie when a Calm Katie is an option?

 

[Macky009]

Here are some of Violet screen shot. She is one heck of a badass character with a tragic back story.

 

[Lovemaking]

Why going for a Wild Katie when a Calm Katie is an option?

Real, girls like Chelsea are usually not endgame material. Sure the person can change but why tho? just let the person be who they are and pursue someone else's endgame.
Wild girls are usually fun fwb.

 

[Superocco]

a) Lydia has influence on her and I don't think we'll be able to break them up if going for Chelsea as the endgame.

Yeah, I have a feeling that, out of the cheerleaders, Ella is the one that'll most likely have a solo ending. Lydia and Chelsea might come as a throuple deal, but like you said, as much as it'd be cool to have a conclusion where you have a dedicated solo relationship with Chels, it feels that in the long run she won't want to stray too far from Lydia.
I mean, it would be cool to have solo endings for each one, except perhaps Tashley and Chloe/Jordan, but that'd still amount to 14 solo endings, plus the throuple ones, plus the harems, so I don't know how many possibilities we'll have in the end (in the hopes that we end up reaching it, which I really wish for.)

 

[Lovemaking]

Here are some of Violet screen shot. She is one heck of a badass character with a tragic back story.
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Violet is arguably the prettiest "goth" LI in a game and it's not even a close match.

She is not rocking the Quinn hairstyle
She has proper good makeup + her eyes. I'm a big sucker for eyes.
But the best part is her outfit. It's so good with honestly a lot of details that most goth character does not have in games.