desmosome

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Huh. I would have placed them as younger. Doriel looks like he is 12. Sunny looks more like an adult- just a very short one; but she is supposed to be younger than him so the whole age thing is a mite confusing.

But yeah- how Elf years translate into human years and how the elvish growth cycle works is is confusing and hasn't been expounded upon. The tallest elf we have seen is Anesteya and the Dev said she is around 190 cm. Doriel at full maturity would presumably end up taller than his mother if males/females follow similar trends to humans. So there are a few questions at play.

1) Do elves continue to grow over an extended period of time- like, 100s of years per-say and the older ones get quite tall?
2) Maybe Doreil is adopted or his dad is a hobbit?
3) Is Sunny perhaps a half elf so she is maturing faster than Doriel?
4) Do Elves have different height norms for genders where female tend to be taller or equal height to their male counterparts?
It could be a bit lower I guess, but 12 seems to be too low. I took into consideration MC's feat of beating the shit out of a man with his bare hands. It seems unlikely for a really young teenager to manage that. I also took into consideration Sunny's rather sizable tits. But anyways, they are certainly adolescents and not adults yet.
 
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monk_56

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Or I'm still a noob artist who struggles with accurately depicting how old a character is supposed to be (nevermind making them look consistent). Don't need to look deeper than that sometimes! At least if you're talking about faces, anyway.

I've never heard that Doriel looks 12 though - maybe that image of where he's hiding behind the tree is a little bit in that ballpark, but other than that IDK. He would have been around 10-12 at the time when he found Sunny.

When it comes to height, I'm more inclined to make people as tall as I want them to be rather than follow some RL biological pattern. Will the main character grow as time goes on? Sure, probably by at least a little bit. Is he going to end up taller than his mother because that is the trend for humans IRL? Probably not.
You are too hard on yourself about your art Wor. It looks great!

10-12 in Elf years I take when he first met Sunny? Or in human years? The age thing is so confusing. I would have guessed he was a 6-8 y/o (human) when he first met Sunny- just based on appearances; but elves seem to mature more slowly so if that was 10-12 in a more slowly maturing Elven frame that makes sense.
 

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You are too hard on yourself about your art Wor. It looks great!

10-12 in Elf years I take when he first met Sunny? Or in human years? The age thing is so confusing. I would have guessed he was a 6-8 y/o (human) when he first met Sunny- just based on appearances; but elves seem to mature more slowly so if that was 10-12 in a more slowly maturing Elven frame that makes sense.
10-12 in human years. I believe the only picture of him in that flashback was the Briarstead overlook and he seems fairly tall in that (for a 10-12 year old, anyway). But again, inconsistent/inaccurate heights and appearances are something I will gradually rectify as time goes on and I get better at drawing. I don't mind if players have different interpretations of how old the elven characters are (unless Sunny whips out her tits, then she is 18+), but if you want a more accurate estimate, it's better to evaluate their behavior before their appearances.

But on the note of elven vs human years, there doesn't need to be any confusion IMO. Sure, elves would definitely age differently than humans - a 40 year old elf will not look like a 40 year old human, which is nothing new in the world of fantasy. But there is no concept of "elven years" as I see it, so when the protagonist was 10, he was just 10 and wouldn't look entirely out of place among human 10 year old children.

Also, any notions of when elves truly mature would depend on the elven culture rather than an exact science; some elven snobs might say that elves haven't matured until they've reached the age that a human can't and so on, but that doesn't mean that 100 in human years = 18 in elven years. It's the equivalent of someone IRL saying that you're not a man until you have hairs on your balls.

If you want, ping me on discord and we can talk about it more
 

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Also, it's funny that this topic came up now considering I've been working on a Sunny turnaround sheet to solidify her exact facial appearance (mostly to use as a reference for future drawings). I made a nice sketch and I really liked the way her face looks in it so I want to be able to replicate that look in the future. Which is harder than it sounds, apparently...
 

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I don't mind if players have different interpretations of how old the elven characters are (unless Sunny whips out her tits, then she is 18+), but if you want a more accurate estimate, it's better to evaluate their behavior before their appearances.
If I'm not mistaken she did that a while back though in her beggar days.
 
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NTR drives people into an insane, irrational hatred at just the mere sight of those 3 letters
Sure some people are overly rude about it, but it is legitimate to not enjoy certain kinks as a player. No shame to others who like cuckold fantasies or whatever, but it's not my thing. Same with furies or gay stories (for the MC). There is a niche for everything, but the more unique kinks you put in your story, especially divisive ones like NTR, the more people you turn off. Sure you attract a few extra fans, but loose a lot of others.

If a dev is really into NTR, more power to him and he should make his game how he wants and ignore those that don't like it. But if a dev can go either way with his vision of the story, its a big risk that will turn off 80-90% of the potential players and current fans, so most devs wisely avoid it.
 

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Sure some people are overly rude about it, but it is legitimate to not enjoy certain kinks as a player. No shame to others who like cuckold fantasies or whatever, but it's not my thing. Same with furies or gay stories (for the MC). There is a niche for everything, but the more unique kinks you put in your story, especially divisive ones like NTR, the more people you turn off. Sure you attract a few extra fans, but loose a lot of others.

If a dev is really into NTR, more power to him and he should make his game how he wants and ignore those that don't like it. But if a dev can go either way with his vision of the story, its a big risk that will turn off 80-90% of the potential players and current fans, so most devs wisely avoid it.
The problem lies a bit more with the amount of people going from game to game asking for NTR to be added, I guess. Though, quite a few fetishes seem to have that kind of fans, lately it was more apparent with this one. And when you're not the type to like being psychologically tortured by seeing your girlfriend stolen from you by an ugly bastard pounding her... well it get kinda jaring to see people demand NTR to be added...
 

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Also, it's funny that this topic came up now considering I've been working on a Sunny turnaround sheet to solidify her exact facial appearance (mostly to use as a reference for future drawings). I made a nice sketch and I really liked the way her face looks in it so I want to be able to replicate that look in the future. Which is harder than it sounds, apparently...
he buddy do u write the incest script ? if u rnot then who ?
 

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HAHAHA I love this game I'm going full rebellion mode and I'm just like IDC MOTHER IM JOINING THE ALDMERI DOMINION I HATE STIKNY HUMANS AND TALOS WORSHIP IS HERETICAL
 
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clamp360

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What's the update time on this one? Last update looks like it took 6 months and if that's the case going forward, I'll just wait till it's finished.
 

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Okay, I really liked this. But somehow missed the incest tag or it was added after I read it. Can ANYONE let me know if it will be or is completely optional or will be forced?

I'm just not into the incest tea sadly. Thanks for answering my future hero.
 

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What's the update time on this one? Last update looks like it took 6 months and if that's the case going forward, I'll just wait till it's finished.
Every dev has a different situation, friend. Trust me, I understand you completely. Having to wait months for new content on a game you love is frustrating, but not every dev has the same amount of free time to work on their game, or the same capabilities. And when games are well written and have good, cutsom made art... well it takes a while longer than an HTML game using random porn gifs, that's for sure.

Okay, I really liked this. But somehow missed the incest tag or it was added after I read it. Can ANYONE let me know if it will be or is completely optional or will be forced?

I'm just not into the incest tea sadly. Thanks for answering my future hero.
It's most likely a tag added about the voyeuristic side (at least for now) shown so far. I mean, technically, poping a boner seeing your mom naked does count towards incest tags, I think.
 
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monk_56

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Okay, I really liked this. But somehow missed the incest tag or it was added after I read it. Can ANYONE let me know if it will be or is completely optional or will be forced?

I'm just not into the incest tea sadly. Thanks for answering my future hero.
As far as I know everything in Elvansang will be optional with the exception of the relationship with Sunny- which is required by the plot. So yes, the 'cest plot is wholly optional.

Sunny is canon in my heart anyway so its an absolute win :love:
 

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As far as I know everything in Elvansang will be optional with the exception of the relationship with Sunny- which is required by the plot. So yes, the 'cest plot is wholly optional.

Sunny is canon in my heart anyway so its an absolute win :love:
in my case - it is absolute defeat:FacePalm:
sunny is the only chick i have no interest for..so if that is the case, gonna forgot this game...sigh.
 

clamp360

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Every dev has a different situation, friend. Trust me, I understand you completely. Having to wait months for new content on a game you love is frustrating, but not every dev has the same amount of free time to work on their game, or the same capabilities. And when games are well written and have good, cutsom made art... well it takes a while longer than an HTML game using random porn gifs, that's for sure.
I get that, but this doesn't answer my question. Is this game's development cycle following a 6 month rotation? Can we expect the next version before July?
 

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I get that, but this doesn't answer my question. Is this game's development cycle following a 6 month rotation? Can we expect the next version before July?
I don't have a schedule to answer to you. I'm just trying to mean that good games take patience, because far too many people tend to reply to threads demanding updates every other week like it's even doable. Call that something like a reflex.
Now, seems like that wasn't what you meant, which is good, and I apologize to have understood it that way.
 
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