Kudoko

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don't put a "ntr is unavoidable" right up there in the top description. it's considered a spoiler
 

MaydayM'dick

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Thing about self-inserters is no matter what you're getting NTR'd in porn games and porn in general by your own definition of NTR. You're not the main character. It's all fictional.

I've never quite understood the idea of "self-inserting" into any media in general. I don't need to cut my legs off at the knees, hot glue some hairy feet I got at Hot Topic to those knees, make 3 friends with similar dispositions, find a magical ring that some old wizard dude gets bent out of shape about, and then get forced to travel with like 4 or 5 other guys that are taller than my ass, get separated, nearly munched on by a giant spider, and then nearly get thrown into a volcano just to understand how some little dude feels bout the whole situation.
Not everyone who dislikes this plays a game to self insert. Some people may just feel bad for the characters, or might just dislike parts of the story. If you would like to see a story where despite being used for years a woman actually ends up with the man she loves, you have to sit through two different endings where it doesn't happen, for practically no reason besides playtime extension.

On another note, if you don't get self inserting, good for you, but going off on a tangent rant about self inserting, -especially since that was just assuming at best- is just as self indulgent.
 

MaydayM'dick

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Netorare
"Japanese term for cheating or being unfaithful"(Someone will will be cheated on but I'm not sure who)
Either way I don't see anything that impressive.
"Japanese term for cheating or being unfaithful" actually describes 浮気 "Uwaki". Netorare or "Was taken by sleeping" is basically a term to mean that they either left, or were emotionally distant because of the unfaithful sex. NTR is more of an emotional thing than just cheating but because they are both cheating when it comes down to it, they get conflated a lot.
 

EdenGenesis

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Man, this hurts... The main character has an actual personality and a face, it's very hard to not empatize with him while he's being ntr'd.
I agree, I felt very bad for him and his brother is a jerk. He uses Arieno just to humiliate his brother. If Robert didn't talk about her to his father, she might have been saved but I can't help thinking he was part of her situation.

Now we can't blame him for trying to save her, but it's strange he didn't try to find her when she disappered. He could have asked her parents or something.

I don't know if she has CG with Carlo outside the incurving one but I can't understand why in the end, she is corrupted by him so easily not why Raymond gave her up to Carlo...
 

IceHunt55

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Okay game. CGs are reused. The story feels slapped on. MC is useless and has 0 progression and payoff. Clueless to the max.
 

EdenGenesis

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Okay game. CGs are reused. The story feels slapped on. MC is useless and has 0 progression and payoff. Clueless to the max.
When I see the CGs they are mainly with Raymond and the only ones that are with Carlo are the engravure memories.

So I'm wondering how ending #2 with Carlo is possible!

When you think about it, Arieno used to be incorruptible, yet she can succumb to others despite her ambiguous relationship with Robert.

Of course, the fact that Robert is totally stupid and unfit to help Arieno from the start annoys me to no end...

He waits until she's well worn down by the others and only gets the leftovers if we choose his "positive" ending in which they don't have any sex anyway.
 

Toonzie

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Im a simple creature, i see male protagonist Tag and netorare tag, i won't play it.... for long :LOL:

Thanks by the way :D
 

EdenGenesis

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Better then hypnosis ntr or sleep sex
Well, I agree that blackmail ntr is way better than hypnosis or sleep sex NTR for me too.

I'm still wondering how it's possible for Arieno to be addicted to Carlo without there being as much CG as with Raymond.

I know it's blackmail at first but Arieno gets corrupted after a while.

Although her relationship with Robert is ambiguous after his long absence, she never seems to have stopped loving him.

I wonder if she regrets what she said to Robert when she ended up with Carlo and had a child with him, as she always hated him before being corrupted by the engravure initiated by Robert's father...

I wish he'd updated the game so that Robert could also dip his biscuit in Arieno, given that they love each other up to a certain point, if Robet doesn't act quickly enough to save her.
 

21ftsp

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When I see the CGs they are mainly with Raymond and the only ones that are with Carlo are the engravure memories.

So I'm wondering how ending #2 with Carlo is possible!

When you think about it, Arieno used to be incorruptible, yet she can succumb to others despite her ambiguous relationship with Robert.

Of course, the fact that Robert is totally stupid and unfit to help Arieno from the start annoys me to no end...

He waits until she's well worn down by the others and only gets the leftovers if we choose his "positive" ending in which they don't have any sex anyway.
I think Carlo ending its should not be exist in the first palce, its really weird ending for my opinion even though he the one who participated on the experiment unless the creator do another a tiny bit story about Carlo and arieno
 

EdenGenesis

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I think Carlo ending its should not be exist in the first palce, its really weird ending for my opinion even though he the one who participated on the experiment unless the creator do another a tiny bit story about Carlo and arieno
So you agree with me, there's no reason for this ending to happen, is there? I saw it among the endings, but I had no idea how it happened and I felt bad for Robert after what Arieno said to him because of Carlo...

Carlo is one of the worst son of b*tche I've ever seen in an eroge...
 

jsan32

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I'm still wondering how it's possible for Arieno to be addicted to Carlo without there being as much CG as with Raymond.

I know it's blackmail at first but Arieno gets corrupted after a while.



I wish he'd updated the game so that Robert could also dip his biscuit in Arieno, given that they love each other up to a certain point, if Robet doesn't act quickly enough to save her.
Could it be the effect of the engraving?

Like, he controls her in such a way precisely to break and torture his brother. It must not have been for nothing that she was chosen, Carlo allowed the other to play with her, and at the end of the other he allowed her to stay with him because she was no longer needed, as she would have broken Robert
 
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21ftsp

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So you agree with me, there's no reason for this ending to happen, is there? I saw it among the endings, but I had no idea how it happened and I felt bad for Robert after what Arieno said to him because of Carlo...

Carlo is one of the worst son of b*tche I've ever seen in an eroge...
for me Carlo is not event the character it self, I hope this game still got update with add some new CG and new proper ending for the true end and etc
 
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