VN Ren'Py Abandoned Equilibrium [v0.02] [Ultrafiolet]

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Tomoushie

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Yeah sure, I never said it's a directly copycat - it has some original touch to it. But even you agreed that it's definitely inspired by Eternum. And I'm not saying that Eternum holds a patent or license of originality - based on your logic then nothing is ever original in this world.

However, if this dev ever took inspiration from Eternum (which I am sure as hell that he did), some credits would have been nice, and moreover, more twists. Once is fine, twice is fine, but multiple occurrences? I don't know, fam. We take inspirations from many things, sure - but we always end up adding twists and what we come up with is usually never close to what we thought of initially, which is based on the inspiration. It's like Eternum is the first one that introduces neuro-chip, Chop-Chop, or even a redhead nanny - but if you put all of those together in a guessing game, most people would be able to guess it's Eternum.

It seems that he got the main idea from Eternum with some funny elements (like Trader Lee), and tried his own twists to it but you can clearly see the line between the inspiration part and the parts where he wrote himself.

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Exactly, you said it all.

To say that Eternum was not an inspiration for his game would be a lie.

There is nothing wrong with taking inspiration from other games to make your own game, but the majority of the content, be it story, plot or minor elements must be the author's ideas, not inspiration.

There are far too many elements that resemble Eternum for it not to be seen as a clear inspiration.

But the game would still have to have its own identity and different elements from Eternum and its other sources of inspiration to create the identity to its game, otherwise one could simply say that it is a copy-paste or plagiarism.
 

CamaroFan432

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Well, I don't want to push you into any direction, but you definitly should make sure, you know in which direction you story shall go and which content it contains. That includes fetishes and their avoidability or skippability. Don't try to please everyone and don't expect everyone will like it. That being said, should you try to please a larger crowd by adding content, that my oppose each other, give the player a choice to AVOID it. This means, the player and the MC can stop the situation from happening. Skipping or hiding wouldn't cut it, because it just jumps over the scene, the player doesn't necessarily see it, but it still happens. That's something many players just don't like, because it's just a half hearted attempt in that moment. Best example I got, there is another male interested in one of the LIs of the player/MC and he is flirting with the LI. You can then give the player the option to let it happen, so that the other male gets closer to the LI and maybe even ends up with her (netorare or sharing content). At the same time you can give the player an option to step in and stop the advancement of the other male (not interested in sharing or netorare, but in harem content). In this case, the LI is just there for the MC/player and other males will never be close to her. You could even differentiate and give one option for harem, one for netorare and one for sharing content. But beware, more options always also mean more different paths and scenes, that means more work for you.

Lastly, don't produce content, you're not a fan of or feel uncomfortable. You probably won't be able to produce something, that people of that fetish would like to see, it would be a half hearted attempt. In the end it would be wasted time, you could've spent on the main story or other things.
 

ULTRAFiOLET

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Well, I don't want to push you into any direction, but you definitly should make sure, you know in which direction you story shall go and which content it contains. That includes fetishes and their avoidability or skippability. Don't try to please everyone and don't expect everyone will like it. That being said, should you try to please a larger crowd by adding content, that my oppose each other, give the player a choice to AVOID it. This means, the player and the MC can stop the situation from happening. Skipping or hiding wouldn't cut it, because it just jumps over the scene, the player doesn't necessarily see it, but it still happens. That's something many players just don't like, because it's just a half hearted attempt in that moment. Best example I got, there is another male interested in one of the LIs of the player/MC and he is flirting with the LI. You can then give the player the option to let it happen, so that the other male gets closer to the LI and maybe even ends up with her (netorare or sharing content). At the same time you can give the player an option to step in and stop the advancement of the other male (not interested in sharing or netorare, but in harem content). In this case, the LI is just there for the MC/player and other males will never be close to her. You could even differentiate and give one option for harem, one for netorare and one for sharing content. But beware, more options always also mean more different paths and scenes, that means more work for you.

Lastly, don't produce content, you're not a fan of or feel uncomfortable. You probably won't be able to produce something, that people of that fetish would like to see, it would be a half hearted attempt. In the end it would be wasted time, you could've spent on the main story or other things.
Thank you for the good advice! I don't plan to make content that I don't like myself. And I don't want to please anyone. Making this game is just a favorite hobby for me. And I'm well aware that everyone's tastes are different. But I hope that someone will like my game.
 

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Raziel_8

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The step-sister is a completely unlikeable character, which ranges somewhere between being a spiteful bitch, dumb, a slut and having a personality disorder.
She hates everyone for no reasons, makes plans to spite people (plans which make little sense).
Hates the MC and blames him for her mother's disappearance. At the same time, she also believes the mother is having a lover and was running away with him and is blaming the father...
Overall, she comes over as a complete sociopath with constant mood swings.
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Some other dudes, which want to get it on with the girls and the MC being jealous/hating it.

Some very strange plots, like the MC apparently meeting someone at the party but it happens off screen.
To make money for a party he signs up as escort (sort of), because he can't get money from his rich father for some reason.
Him receiving a love letter and getting into a relationship...
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I didn't finish it, it really needs a proofreader/translator. Well, i also didn't like the characters, including the MC (with exception of Faina, the nanny's daughter), not sure if that would be better with a good translation thought.
 
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Skeltom

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NTR will not be in this game.
For me that's one piece of good news I guess. I didn't get very far because of the bad at best translation, no offence but it is. The lack if pregnamcy is something I can look past no mater how much I'd like it but if I can't understand whats going on I just wont enjoy the game. These things center around the writing and this one needed a lot more time in the oven before a release.

Even if I ignored all of that the biggest thing that makes this a pass for me is the forced relationship. If I can't choose who I'm actually interested in then it's little better than a KN to me. If anything it makes me feel even less invested in that character because it's very likely everything that happen with them is going to be out of your control, so what's the point?
 

ULTRAFiOLET

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For me that's one piece of good news I guess. I didn't get very far because of the bad at best translation, no offence but it is. The lack if pregnamcy is something I can look past no mater how much I'd like it but if I can't understand whats going on I just wont enjoy the game. These things center around the writing and this one needed a lot more time in the oven before a release.

Even if I ignored all of that the biggest thing that makes this a pass for me is the forced relationship. If I can't choose who I'm actually interested in then it's little better than a KN to me. If anything it makes me feel even less invested in that character because it's very likely everything that happen with them is going to be out of your control, so what's the point?
English is not my first language. My mistake was probably that I didn't warn about it everywhere. Choosing a story with the girl you like is technically a more difficult task, even for an experienced developer. Especially since it was not my intention from the beginning to provide such a choice. In my opinion, the point of the game is more in the story, in the ideas. But everyone has their own priorities.
 
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ULTRAFiOLET

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That's great news. But can the BDSM/femdom/etc scenes be avoided, or are they just skipped and we just don't see them? Can we reject LIs that don't interest us?
I'll think about how this can be arranged without spoiling the plot.
 
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Skeltom

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English is not my first language. My mistake was probably that I didn't warn about it everywhere. Choosing a story with the girl you like is technically a more difficult task, even for an experienced developer. Especially since it was not my intention from the beginning to provide such a choice. In my opinion, the point of the game is more in the story, in the ideas. But everyone has their own priorities.
I'm not sure I follow. Are your plans to write a "Kinetic Novel" or are you making a "Visual Novel"? Adding an option the for the player to choose who they like is no more difficult than adding a yes or no choice. It sounds like this is going to be a harem "story" instead of a VN with actual player agency. If that's what you want do do with it then so be it but you should let people know that as well.
 

Larry2000

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Just wanted to ask ULTRAFiOLET about this:
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Cause you said something about the three letter word and this sounds a little off:
NTR will not be in this game.
Just trying to get some clarification :)

Have a nice day!
 

swelldude

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If Tarzan made a porn game, then this is it.

It's in dire need of a proper translation. My brain hurts...
 
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