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Given half an opportunity, Ashe will spend the rest of my playthrough wearing Kate like a hat.
I can't decide between Vanessa or Rachel. I think I might like Vanessa a little more cause she is Bella 2.0 and well she is hot. But I do like the story and relationship more with Rachel so far.
 

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I did let Ashe fall into temptation and have sex with Kate. Want to see what are the consequences, if any.:devilish:

If Fiona wants some revenge (which i doubt considered what she said before) she can get Ashe's pussy or her mom's, i am sure she is as horny as her daughter. :LOL: :p
 

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I can't decide between Vanessa or Rachel. I think I might like Vanessa a little more cause she is Bella 2.0 and well she is hot. But I do like the story and relationship more with Rachel so far.
I still don't see Vanessa as anything remotely similar to Bella. Bella is by far my favourite VN character and Vanessa is just way too aloof and distant. Vanessa comes off more as a milder Sasha if anything, not AS ice cold but more towards that type of character.
Bella is straight up just spicey angst made flesh and it's great.
 

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I still don't see Vanessa as anything remotely similar to Bella. Bella is by far my favourite VN character and Vanessa is just way too aloof and distant. Vanessa comes off more as a milder Sasha if anything, not AS ice cold but more towards that type of character.
Bella is straight up just spicey angst made flesh and it's great.
Well she isn't going to be an exact copy but she is clearly similar at least to me. With her being rich , buying expensive clothes for Ashe, being bitchy and somewhat cold but also after that dinner she seems to be a bit of a Tsundere to me. So I feel she shares enough qualities to be called Bella 2.0 personally but yeah she isn't nothing like her either I say she more is in the middle tbh but still close enough imo.
 

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I can't decide between Vanessa or Rachel. I think I might like Vanessa a little more cause she is Bella 2.0 and well she is hot. But I do like the story and relationship more with Rachel so far.
Vanessa, without a doubt, I find it funny that Ashe went from being a pizza delivery girl to a gold-digging girlfriend. I also think that her mother likes us. It would be interesting to see Ashe sneaking into high society, she could even get a job.

Fiona literally said to Ashe that she wouldn't care if she had sex with her mom if it meant she finally got laid. Yes the context was Ashe's virginity but no take backsies, Fiona opened that door entirely on her own.
Besides that with Fiona's personality I really doubt she'd care, she'd probably get a laugh out of it.
That moment was very funny, although I wonder why she didn't offer us her sister who is obviously in love with Ashe and wants to jump on her.
 
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That moment was very funny, although I wonder why she didn't offer us her sister who is obviously in love with Ashe and wants to jump on her.
I might be misremembering the exact details of her warning, but it wasn't a case of "she's my sister don't fuck her." It was more along the lines of "she's batshit crazy, she's gonna drug your ass, drive you down to Vegas and get married to you before you come down."
Which leads to the blackmail hypothesizing. Regardless of the blackmail plot though, Fiona seems to be pretty sure her sister's the type of crazy you don't stick your dick into... which I'm unfortunately totally into.
 

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I might be misremembering the exact details of her warning, but it wasn't a case of "she's my sister don't fuck her." It was more along the lines of "she's batshit crazy, she's gonna drug your ass, drive you down to Vegas and get married to you before you come down."
Which leads to the blackmail hypothesizing. Regardless of the blackmail plot though, Fiona seems to be pretty sure her sister's the type of crazy you don't stick your dick into... which I'm unfortunately totally into.
Honestly, I see it as something that sisters do to exaggerate things (if someone has sisters or brothers they would understand), probably Fiona is just being protective of Delilah and with Ashe she probably wants him to explore his sexuality with several companions so she I wouldn't want to involve her, I understand that taking what Fiona says seriously is more than a joke for the group.
 

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Honestly, I see it as something that sisters do to exaggerate things (if someone has sisters or brothers they would understand), probably Fiona is just being protective of Delilah and with Ashe she probably wants him to explore his sexuality with several companions so she I wouldn't want to involve her, I understand that taking what Fiona says seriously is more than a joke for the group.
I mean, yeah. If your homie wants to date your sister and go into a serious relationship, then no problem, but going into a FWB relationship or having sex with the naive little sister is a big no-no.
Vanessa is going to be the super caring and committed type once you actually go through her shield, and the mother, besides being power hungry and all the political bullshit, actually wants the best for her daughter, which will be an ally of Ashe and bring them together.
 

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That moment was very funny, although I wonder why she didn't offer us her sister who is obviously in love with Ashe and wants to jump on her.
Because on Delilah's case Fiona was warning Ashe that she was pretty much obssessed with her. She was pretty much saying "don't stick in crazy".:oops::LOL:
Hence why most people here suspect she is the one behind that, amateurish, blackmail attempt against Ashe. Plus she also had acess i could have seen Ashe and Zoey having sex as she was right next door.

Honestly, I see it as something that sisters do to exaggerate things (if someone has sisters or brothers they would understand), probably Fiona is just being protective of Delilah and with Ashe she probably wants him to explore his sexuality with several companions so she I wouldn't want to involve her, I understand that taking what Fiona says seriously is more than a joke for the group.
Her.
Him is a male pronoum and there are no males in this game universe.;)

Also Fiona was being very enfatic when warning Ashe about her sister's infatuation. Fiona loves her sister but she also knows her.
 
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Hence why most people here suspect she is the one behind that, amateurish, blackmail attempt against Ashe.
Also the fact that she acted 'caught in the act' on the bus, and lied her cute-but-crazy ass off about Fiona having told her. I'm still grouchy about Ashe not glomming onto that, and checking with Fi on it. She is generally laid back, which makes her insistence on Delilah and Ashe keeping their paws off each other rather poignant, and would have me personally question her sharing Ashe's "please don't tell anyone ever, and I only told my best friend after decades" secret with her batshit obsessed sister within the day.

Also, curiously, after Delilah grokked how upset Ashe was, no new blackmail attempt was made.

Him is a male pronoum and there are no males in this game universe.;)
The interesting thing for me is that without males, and a lack for male pronouns, but futas without vags there rather should be neutral, female and futa pronouns, because those are the lines of delineation here. Referring to a duplo as "it" might even be an insult in such a culture.
Same goes for the use of 'Goddess': Why use the feminine form when there should never have been a male one?

Idk, those are just a few small and rather insignificant thoughts I had when playing. In other games, I doubt I would even bother voicing those, but EI is written well enough that those things stand out, and I care enough to wonder about them.

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That all aside, I actually just came here to say thank you to MorriganRae for the game, and the sizeable update.
The writing is remarkably strong, and in a world where so many lewd games don't even take the hurdle of 'understandable English', it stands out like a beacon. I may not be a super-fan of the whole "dominant asshole/demon", "voyeur" and "kind, submissive bitch" trichotomy, but I am thankful that I am going to get to tell the rapey cop to take a hike instead having to suffer her advances endlessly.
 

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Also the fact that she acted 'caught in the act' on the bus, and lied her cute-but-crazy ass off about Fiona having told her. I'm still grouchy about Ashe not glomming onto that, and checking with Fi on it. She is generally laid back, which makes her insistence on Delilah and Ashe keeping their paws off each other rather poignant, and would have me personally question her sharing Ashe's "please don't tell anyone ever, and I only told my best friend after decades" secret with her batshit obsessed sister within the day.
Right after that scene I wanted Ashe to call Fiona right when she off the Bus. To me it makes no sense for her to not check in with Fiona to see if she actually did tell Delilah instead of talking it at face value. Since in their world being a duplo is a big deal and major secret to trust anyone with.
 
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Right after that scene I wanted Ashe to call Fiona right when she off the Bus. To me it makes no sense for her to check in with Fiona to see if she actually did tell instead of talking it at face value. Since in their world being a duplo is a big deal and major secret to trust anyone with.
Exactly. Or shoot a quick message. So quick and easy. All of the justifications she did afterwards made me almost angry :LOL:.

It was like the author justifying the stupidity/inaction of the main character. So yeah, if there was one thing I didn’t like about the update, it was this.
 

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Exactly. Or shoot a quick message. So quick and easy. All of the justifications she did afterwards made me almost angry :LOL:.

It was like the author justifying the stupidity/inaction of the main character. So yeah, if there was one thing I didn’t like about the update, it was this.
Bad communication is needed for plot, so bad communication it is!
 
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I haven't seen anybody mention yet that the same "looking at her phone at the right moment" red herring wasn't only used for Delilah, but for the gym lady, too. My theory is that gym lady does creepy stuff at her gym and Natasha will come to Ashe's rescue and shut the gym down to show character growth and that beneath the predator vibes she's a good gal actually, who hates duplocists.
I was a bit surprised I didn't see more people bring up Siri cause it felt to me she was being propped up as one of the possible culprits of the blackmail. The fact we get a shot of her holding her phone and shooting a look at Ashe as she's heading to the locker room. Then almost immediately entering the locker room after Ashe sent the pictures acting kind of weird like she knows something. It felt like she was relishing in the fact that she was messing with Ashe and getting away with it. Could just be flirting but idk.
We know thanks to Rape Cop that Siri has Ashe's phone number but maybe Ashe doesn't know her number, also it did seem weird to me that she apparently told Rape Cop that Ashe was looking for her as if she misunderstood Ashe's obvious intent when asking about her. It just felt like Siri was being low-key antagonistic to Ashe in some ways.

With all that said I still think Delilah is the biggest suspect with Siri possibly being prime suspect number two. I don't think Rape Cop is going to come to Ashe's rescue though... at least not intentionally.
 

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I was a bit surprised I didn't see more people bring up Siri cause it felt to me she was being propped up as one of the possible culprits of the blackmail. The fact we get a shot of her holding her phone and shooting a look at Ashe as she's heading to the locker room. Then almost immediately entering the locker room after Ashe sent the pictures acting kind of weird like she knows something. It felt like she was relishing in the fact that she was messing with Ashe and getting away with it. Could just be flirting but idk.
We know thanks to Rape Cop that Siri has Ashe's phone number but maybe Ashe doesn't know her number, also it did seem weird to me that she apparently told Rape Cop that Ashe was looking for her as if she misunderstood Ashe's obvious intent when asking about her. It just felt like Siri was being low-key antagonistic to Ashe in some ways.

With all that said I still think Delilah is the biggest suspect with Siri possibly being prime suspect number two. I don't think Rape Cop is going to come to Ashe's rescue though... at least not intentionally.
Siri does seem to have some circumstances in her favour. No really clear opportunity to find out Ashe is a duplo, but there could be creepier methods, like cameras in the showers or something. Motive is pretty nebulous too, but might just be opportunistic, find a shy duplo, blackmail said duplo.

It's less satisfying from a plot and character angle, because she's barely in the story and doesn't have a strong connection to Ashe, but it could work out as a reveal after a false accusation against Delilah (if she's a red herring).
 
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Same goes for the use of 'Goddess': Why use the feminine form when there should never have been a male one?
Yeah I also ticked about the use of exclusive female forms for everyone even though there is not really genders.

But the neutral form is the male form, as we live in a patriarcal society and god is represented as a male. They/them for neutral is recent and is originally for plural. Just have to get used to it.
 
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