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doovel

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We see someone on a bike seemingly tailing them in the car back to Vanessa's. Their makeout session there happens outside and could be watched, as Ashe realises.
It’s outside in the backyard. Which is between 3 high walls and the house itself. Unless I missed one side being open somehow?
 
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coco_16_

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Replaying for the update. Still early, but knowing Rachel has a NTR fetish really casts her relationship with Fiona in a new light. Ashe says she spent months being a third wheel, watching her best friend and sister make out. Either Rachel was getting off by NTRing away Ashe's friend or by being NTRed away by Ashe's friend. When Ashe stopped coming around so much, it stopped being fun so she unceremoniously dumped Fiona.

Just a theory, but, if correct, it's a fun detail for Rachel's character.
Yeah honestly that + Rachel/cop on the cuckpath actively kinda made me dislike her. She seems to get off on fucking with her sister. I doubt Ashe will ever call her out on it tho. Maybe my judgement is coloured because I'm not a fan of cuck shit. Maybe Siren Ashe put her in her place :devilish:
 

MagicMan753

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Yeah honestly that + Rachel/cop on the cuckpath actively kinda made me dislike her. She seems to get off on fucking with her sister. I doubt Ashe will ever call her out on it tho. Maybe my judgement is coloured because I'm not a fan of cuck shit. Maybe Siren Ashe put her in her place :devilish:
There is a chance nothing happened between them, cause nothing was shown, and the dev revealed natasha's path is only on kitten route.
 

Vernalcash

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Replaying for the update. Still early, but knowing Rachel has a NTR fetish really casts her relationship with Fiona in a new light. Ashe says she spent months being a third wheel, watching her best friend and sister make out. Either Rachel was getting off by NTRing away Ashe's friend or by being NTRed away by Ashe's friend. When Ashe stopped coming around so much, it stopped being fun so she unceremoniously dumped Fiona.

Just a theory, but, if correct, it's a fun detail for Rachel's character.
If i remeber correctly she only has a NTR fetish in the NTR route. I see that route as a "what if" situation, where the characters are similar but fondamentally different from the main routes counterparts.
 

BDFanZone

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How did Vanessa send those messages during the date with her then? I don’t think that makes sense.

It would require Mrs. X to be an intermediary.
i agreed it can't be her....but : Who is this? / Who would you like it to be? let's brainstrom...!:giggle:
 

doovel

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Still could be a drone. Or getting CCTV feeds.
The first one would be more likely. A CCTV cam aimed at their pool is less likely, but certainly within the realm of possibilities.
In my opinion Ashe was talking the day after with mrs X
But how was Vanessa texting Ashe during the date then? And somehow Vanessa needed to have signal where Ashe didn't?
It really does seem like an alternate reality.
Yeah I've gone through that route at the request of someone on this forum. It really changes the personality of a few characters, only one who seems the same is Zoey. Lexi is suddenly waaaaay more slutty, unless she really is just that slutty and Ashe isn't special at all to her.
 

kialera

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I'm playing the cuckquean route and I know it's supposed to be ambiguous whether something happened between Natasha and Rachel, but I just wonder if we'll ever get an explicit confirmation either way.
 

Ciaran8023

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I'm playing the cuckquean route and I know it's supposed to be ambiguous whether something happened between Natasha and Rachel, but I just wonder if we'll ever get an explicit confirmation either way.
Most likely yeah, would make no sense to not get any confirmation given that the route is basically entirely about shit like that. Most likely next update/scene with her will have her sending pics to Ashe since it fits her behaviour to do so.
 

Solomon Grundy

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I 100% expected Natasha to send a pic of Rachel w/her mouth full of giant cock when she answered Rachel's phone and Ashe asked why Rachel didn't answer it.
 

gregers

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I'm playing the cuckquean route and I know it's supposed to be ambiguous whether something happened between Natasha and Rachel, but I just wonder if we'll ever get an explicit confirmation either way.
Most likely yeah, would make no sense to not get any confirmation given that the route is basically entirely about shit like that. Most likely next update/scene with her will have her sending pics to Ashe since it fits her behaviour to do so.
I 100% expected Natasha to send a pic of Rachel w/her mouth full of giant cock when she answered Rachel's phone and Ashe asked why Rachel didn't answer it.
It's not my kink and I don't play that path, but I believe that for some people into that kink, the uncertainty and fear of what might be going on with a loved one is as much a part of it as actually seeing it happen. Very likely there'll be a confirmation/confrontation eventually, but I understand that some people get off on the frisson of suspecting without knowing, at least for a while.


As others have remarked above, it's probably best to think of the cuck path as an alternate universe, the Rachels, Zoeys, Evelyns etc. of that reality being fundamentally different people that the ones you encounter on e.g. the siren path.

That's often the case with games with both NTR and non-NTR paths, I find, and can sometimes lead to tensions in cross-over scenes shared between the two 'realities', if the characters come across in a way that seems to fit one path better than the other. I don't think it's a major issue here yet.
 

manscout

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I enjoyed the game a lot, but oof, really not into the whole route split stuff. Specially after looking under the hood a lot of content is just made inaccessible for virtually no reason when you are forced to pick.

Enjoyed dom dynamics with character A and sub dynamics with character B? Too bad, you are now either a siren or a kitten and you need to go with the specific assigned version of every relationship and every scene.

Not interested in pairing up the MC with a certain character for story reasons but would enjoy seeing them featured in more sexual content even with other characters? Well too bad, it is an all or nothing cuck route. If you take the cuck route you get excluded from most potential relationships, if you don't take the cuck-route you need to gobble up every character into the MC's harem or say goodbye to ever seeing them in a sexy scenario again.

I know having set routes can make it easier to organize the game's writing, but at least so far I'm not seeing any advantages to the route-setting choice over the old "opt-in/opt-out" system the game had early on. If you were overwhelmingly submissive the game would start auto-picking sub route choices, if you were overwhelmingly dominant it would start auto-picking dom route choices, and if you were in the middle threshold you'd get to choose for the routes where both options were possible.

The cuck choices were also pretty telegraphed so I don't think it was warranted to quarantine all of them to a single route where you are forced to only have them (specially since they range from completely harmless to fairly brutal).

Splitting the routes only made me less excited about playing the game because now I know I'm getting locked out of content I was looking forward to, the game's writing and characters were solid enough that I was excited about potential developments in all 3 directions, and now I know you can't mix them during your playthrough.

I know there is no such thing as a "canon" route, but at least as far as it came to Ashe's development in the early chapters, I feel like you can't fully excise from her character some elements of her "kitten" persona (because introvert and traumatized) and "cuckqueen" persona (because insecure pornfiend). But being saddled with those issues are what made the "siren" moments all the more precious, because it was Ashe standing up at the moments where the player decided it really mattered. By splitting the routes, the dynamic is either made worse or at the very least removed from the player's control.
 

TheGreySun

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As others have remarked above, it's probably best to think of the cuck path as an alternate universe, the Rachels, Zoeys, Evelyns etc. of that reality being fundamentally different people that the ones you encounter on e.g. the siren path.

That's often the case with games with both NTR and non-NTR paths, I find, and can sometimes lead to tensions in cross-over scenes shared between the two 'realities', if the characters come across in a way that seems to fit one path better than the other. I don't think it's a major issue here yet.
If there Was going to be an in universe explination, it would probably be the drug right? like CQ is a world where the Mom was drugged "small dose" at the book club, then a bigger dose on the date, Lexi could have found Victoria's stash and taken one out of curiosity, and Rachel Could have been asked to Take it by Nat because "she isn't responsible" for what she does under the influince, which is Def her MO when it comes to Ashe considering it took a year for her to admit any fault in the first place.

so CQ could just be "Drug World" lol
 

venem0re

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I'm surprised how well "kitten" and "cuckqueen" paths are written. The whole thing between Natasha and Rachel? Those subtle hints of what really happened between those two? Whew! And "kitten" is exactly what you would expect from it. Though I do wish that the "siren" route will be more fleshed out in the future. Ashe, as a character, is simply not there yet to be considered as someone who can be on top, definitely not psychologically. Honestly I would rather prefer if the "kitten" could turn into the "siren" as the story goes on. She needs more experience and probably someone who would slap her out of those never-ending insecurites. An interesting addition to the plot I'd say. I mean, it could even work with the "cuckqueen", but that'll require way too much effort in terms of storytelling, at least in my opinion.
So, yeah, came for the smut - stayed for the plot. Excited for the next episode!
 
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