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I played two routes (not all variations yet, but still) siren and kitten (I'm not a cuck route enjoyer, so I can't rate it properly) and they are great from my point of view

Ashe did the best she could do right now for both routes. You can't just decide to change you life and became completely different person overnight
 
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I played two routes (not all variations yet, but still) siren and kitten (I'm not a cuck route enjoyer, so I can't rate it properly) and they are great from my point of view

Ashe did the best she could do right now for both routes. You can't just decide to change you life and became completely different person overnight

There are no content with a side characters, but they are side characters, not main ones, so it's OK
What do you mean no content with side characters? There is content with side girls, there are only 5-6 main love interests, the rest are side characters.
 
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Yep, you wrote that and I immediately understood that I don't know who main LIs are
The main Li's are Evelyn, Rachel, Fiona, Delilah, Vanessa, for sure. And I am pretty sure Kate might be too, unsure about her.
Besides those the rest are side girls, who will still get content, but be less focus and some may on all routes, some may be a little more route locked, like Lexi's main route is siren, but she will get some scenes in the other two routes just be less of a focus on those routes, same goes for other characters.
 
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I'm new in this stuff bro, what do you mean by incest patch? Thanks in advance!
if i may ask for what is an incest patch needed???
what is different??
i think sooner or later Ashe will rail her Mom and Sister anyway even without patch.
For both of you, as I think the only replies to your questions - Alabama joke aside - failed to accurately explain the situation.

And since Wilmer is new, here's what to know about this game (and A LOT of other games). Most adult visual novels and/ or porn games that feature implied incest do not overtly label it as such. Consequently, when you play as the MC in a game, the person that is supposed to be your mother is labeled "landlady" or "mentor" and your sister is "roommate" or "friend." Thus, all of the relationships are modified so that there is technically no incest happening between characters.

Some games allow you to manually set the relationships and you can even change the nicknames for characters to play into these relationships but many do not. Therefore, an incest patch is a modification to the game's code that changes all references to the characters and their relationships to reflect who they are actually supposed to be (or just who, in your incest-fueled fantasy, want them to be).

There are many reasons for this, but here's one of the biggest: MasterCard. See, most game developers do this as a passion project... you know, for the love of art and storytelling (and a good fap). But creating a porn game is A LOT OF WORK. Therefore, most ask for money via donations, subscriptions etc. In order to accept payment, many developers use existing platforms to facilitate these transactions, namely Patreon and Subscribestar. These platforms allow game developers to monetize their work and build communities with their fans. In order to function and provide the services they promise, these platforms have to operate within the framework designated to them by both the government (you know, laws) as well as the dictates of vendor partners that provide necessary services upon which THEY rely in order to operate.

Patreon is arguably the biggest and most popular resource for game developers. Game developers rely upon it to make enough money to support themselves because some have even left their jobs to attempt to be a developer full-time. Patreon was pressured a few years back to acquiesce to MasterCard's standards for adult content - which, among other things, included a prohibition on incest. Since MasterCard has over a BILLION credit cards in circulation (totaling 32% of all credit card payments internationally), it would be detrimental to Patreon's business to lose the ability to process effectively 1/3 of all transactions through the website.

So, Patreon adjusted their policies and said if an adult porn game wanted to be on Patreon and use their platform, the game could not (among other things) have open incest. Hence the common "landlady" and "roommate" workaround. There may be other requirements or hoops that a developer has to jump through to meet Patreon standards, but I am not a developer so hopefully one of them can chime in if you still have other questions.
 
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For both of you, as I think the only replies to your questions - Alabama joke aside - failed to accurately explain the situation.

And since Wilmer is new, here's what to know about this game (and A LOT of other games). Most adult visual novels and/ or porn games that feature implied incest do not overtly label it as such. Consequently, when you play as the MC in a game, the person that is supposed to be your mother is labeled "landlady" or "mentor" and your sister is "roommate" or "friend." Thus, all of the relationships are modified so that there is technically no incest happening between characters.

Some games allow you to manually set the relationships and you can even change the nicknames for characters to play into these relationships but many do not. Therefore, an incest patch is a modification to the game's code that changes all references to the characters and their relationships to reflect who they are actually supposed to be (or just who, in your incest-fueled fantasy, want them to be).

There are many reasons for this, but here's one of the biggest: MasterCard. See, most game developers do this as a passion project... you know, for the love of art and storytelling (and a good fap). But creating a porn game is A LOT OF WORK. Therefore, most ask for money via donations, subscriptions etc. In order to accept payment, many developers use existing platforms to facilitate these transactions, namely Patreon and Subscribestar. These platforms allow game developers to monetize their work and build communities with their fans. In order to function and provide the services they promise, these platforms have to operate within the framework designated to them by both the government (you know, laws) as well as the dictates of vendor partners that provide necessary services upon which THEY rely in order to operate.

Patreon is arguably the biggest and most popular resource for game developers. Game developers rely upon it to make enough money to support themselves because some have even left their jobs to attempt to be a developer full-time. Patreon was pressured a few years back to acquiesce to MasterCard's standards for adult content - which, among other things, included a prohibition on incest. Since MasterCard has over a BILLION credit cards in circulation (totaling 32% of all credit card payments internationally), it would be detrimental to Patreon's business to lose the ability to process effectively 1/3 of all transactions through the website.

So, Patreon adjusted their policies and said if an adult porn game wanted to be on Patreon and use their platform, the game could not (among other things) have open incest. Hence the common "landlady" and "roommate" workaround. There may be other requirements or hoops that a developer has to jump through to meet Patreon standards, but I am not a developer so hopefully one of them can chime in if you still have other questions.
no shit sherlock really now??? :rolleyes::rolleyes:
i asked because i had never needed a incest patch to name the mom well mom in this game.
i never needed a updated patch for a new version the mother was just the mother in every game update.

you wasted a lot of text written here..... :sleep::sleep:
 
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If you're gonna do any sort of thing Patreon doesn't allow (in this case incest) Patreon will shut you down. Even if you post it off-platform via patch, different provider, discord, whatever. It is only a matter of time before they get you. Seen it happen with multiple creators that got shutdown even though they had nothing Patreon didn't allow on their page.

The only option is to not use them period. It's a ticking timebomb. As a creator I would NEVER use Patreon. The risk is too big. They can lock your account out of nowhere leaving all your funds in limbo.
 
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liked update but feels like such a waste not to be able see what was going on with the sis during her maid service. Would legit be a great chance to switch pov during those times
I agree. It was heavily implied to the player what happened... even Ashe knows something is up, So why leave it as a up in the air thing when it's clear to all parties something happened? I don't really get it maybe dev has something more planned for that specific interaction in a future update.
 
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I've already seen the new content and I must say that I have some mixed feelings, the good thing is that the art is still very beautiful, the settings and characters look great and the music goes well with the atmosphere, even though I liked the chapter quite a bit (especially the Kitty route) it felt unsatisfying, as if it ended before the big climax and you're left frustrated.
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A funny thing is that in the Kitty Route we can escape from Natasha by kicking her in the balls, which is the most Alpha thing Ashe has ever done so I hereby declare Ashe Kitty the true Dom.
:ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
 

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liked update but feels like such a waste not to be able see what was going on with the sis during her maid service. Would legit be a great chance to switch pov during those times
Natasha being the way she is I thought she would send us some video of her defiling our sister like a shitty slut, but in the end nothing happened, which was very anticlimactic.
 

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liked update but feels like such a waste not to be able see what was going on with the sis during her maid service. Would legit be a great chance to switch pov during those times
Natasha being the way she is I thought she would send us some video of her defiling our sister like a shitty slut, but in the end nothing happened, which was very anticlimactic.
On the contrary, I love the "suspense" around it, great cuck experience! :) You also have the alternative of "taking a bullet" for Rachel and be in her shoes.
 
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Wait, hold the freaking phone. So, you're telling me that Mentor = Mother, and Soulmate = Sister? Seriously? Are there other title switches in the incest patch? I played without it in my initial playthrough of 0.4.0 (I'm guessing that it was just an oversight, me not seeing that there was an i-patch), and I thought those titles ("mentor", "soulmate") were like some sort of loose family structure that was uniquely tied into the whole futa/gender specificity that existed within the game's world. I feel like an idiot, now....

I still really want to see Ashe be with Rachel, and/or Delilah, and/or Vanessa (I got the Siren route, and I've been SO excited to play 0.5.0, I've just been a bit embarrassingly strapped for cash at the moment so I'm having to practice patience), so this revelation does not change my outlook on the love prospects for Ashe. I was just so taken aback by reading your post that I had to clarify and ask about this. I seriously can't believe I didn't even give this a second thought, I just full-on believed they were titles given in these types of family relationships in this game world... hahaha
 
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no shit sherlock really now??? :rolleyes::rolleyes:
i asked because i had never needed a incest patch to name the mom well mom in this game.
i never needed a updated patch for a new version the mother was just the mother in every game update.

you wasted a lot of text written here..... :sleep::sleep:
This wasn't just for you, mostly for the guy who clearly had no idea. We've all been new to something at one time or another and it's nice when someone actually explains something instead of making snarky comments or just telling them where the search bar is located.

I tagged your post as well because you also asked - so clearly there was something that confused you about it. Additionally, if you have used other incest patches in the past, you will know that they often need updating as games themselves are updated. Just as the post wasn't just about you, it wasn't just about this game specifically either.

And, if you have read multiple game threads before, you would also know others are not clear on this - as evidenced by the post right before mine from "hlfwaycrks"

So, maybe not completely wasted effort after all. ;)
 

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This wasn't just for you, mostly for the guy who clearly had no idea. We've all been new to something at one time or another and it's nice when someone actually explains something instead of making snarky comments or just telling them where the search bar is located.

I tagged your post as well because you also asked - so clearly there was something that confused you about it. Additionally, if you have used other incest patches in the past, you will know that they often need updating as games themselves are updated. Just as the post wasn't just about you, it wasn't just about this game specifically either.

And, if you have read multiple game threads before, you would also know others are not clear on this - as evidenced by the post right before mine from "hlfwaycrks"

So, maybe not completely wasted effort after all. ;)
i asked because i never used a patch in THIS game because the mom was always the mom since i began playing this game.
Even with every update that came out i have overwritten the last data and still the mom was the mom so that is why i asked what is different with the patch.
i am sure i never installed a incest patch in this game before so that is the reason why i asked.
possible that the incest is or was implemented in the very first version i downloaded,but to be frank i don´t remember where i downloaded the very first version i played.
and after that i never needed to use an patch when an update came out.

and you can be sure that many users here did not even understand the half of what you wrote here.
if they do not even understand how the simplest things in a forum like this are working they will not understand complexer things either.
 

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no shit sherlock really now??? :rolleyes::rolleyes:
i asked because i had never needed a incest patch to name the mom well mom in this game.
i never needed a updated patch for a new version the mother was just the mother in every game update.

you wasted a lot of text written here..... :sleep::sleep:
i asked because i never used a patch in THIS game because the mom was always the mom since i began playing this game.
Even with every update that came out i have overwritten the last data and still the mom was the mom so that is why i asked what is different with the patch.
i am sure i never installed a incest patch in this game before so that is the reason why i asked.
possible that the incest is or was implemented in the very first version i downloaded,but to be frank i don´t remember where i downloaded the very first version i played.
and after that i never needed to use an patch when an update came out.

and you can be sure that many users here did not even understand the half of what you wrote here.
if they do not even understand how the simplest things in a forum like this are working they will not understand complexer things either.
Stop acting like a menstruating woman please
 

Steinchen

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Stop acting like a menstruating woman please
Can´t do that.
i am not so lucky in that department.
and i am sure as fuck can not think with my eleventh "finger" like some persons who gets off from some pictures :whistle: :whistle:
Because i don´t have one :WaitWhat:

if i wanna get myself off i have my Brother or Maybe Sister for that??? :LOL:

Who knows..... :cool:
 
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