Birdnman993
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It may be something obvious, but my theory of the blackmailer is this new mysterious figure who is with Luna and somehow is also using Delilah to keep an eye on Ashe, I say this because of the strange behavior she has, she seemed very stressed and nervous when she meets Ashe, she probably feels guilty for helping blackmail Ashe and the fact that she needs to get into the party to follow the blackmailer's plan makes me think that my guess is right.
Maybe it's Isabella, although I kind of doubt it, since she was busy organizing the party enough to screw Ashe over, but maybe she pulled it off with Delilah's help, so I still don't rule her out as a suspect.
If you haven't played yet, yes, quite a lot.
Hungover00
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Shorter than I was expecting, and thought it was odd to have Evelyn leave for ~2 weeks. That's what, 4-5 updates? So a few years? Of course she can come back early, but still, kinda odd choice.
I agree that there are a few significant tweaks on the Siren route that would improve it (choice about buttplug, more confidence around streamer, off ramp with Fiona [though I wouldn't take that]), but the incremental improvement is there and good overall. Maybe just should be increased a bit more.
Kitten seems like the canon route and the one with fewest weaknesses. Not my main playthrough, but I see the appeal.
CQ route (and the CQ Content [CQC /s]) is the oddest to me. It's like a completely different reality divorced from the other two routes. It's also the least appealing to me, personally. It makes sense for the Lexi scene, as Ashe's behaviour kind of pushes her away, and a bit for Rachel w/ Natasha. But didn't really land right in my book.
The chapter end stinger should be more exciting/intriguing, but didn't land for me. Though the promise of the party turning into an Elysium fuelled orgy holds promise.
I feel like it was a missed opportunity to have a scene, or build some tension at least, with Spike this update. C'est la vie.
I agree that there are a few significant tweaks on the Siren route that would improve it (choice about buttplug, more confidence around streamer, off ramp with Fiona [though I wouldn't take that]), but the incremental improvement is there and good overall. Maybe just should be increased a bit more.
Kitten seems like the canon route and the one with fewest weaknesses. Not my main playthrough, but I see the appeal.
CQ route (and the CQ Content [CQC /s]) is the oddest to me. It's like a completely different reality divorced from the other two routes. It's also the least appealing to me, personally. It makes sense for the Lexi scene, as Ashe's behaviour kind of pushes her away, and a bit for Rachel w/ Natasha. But didn't really land right in my book.
The blackmail plotline is getting old, fast, for me. I agree that it's being so blatantly pointed at Delilah that I doubt she's the main culprit (though it would have been nice for it to be her, get's caught, sexily punished, plot ends), but I like the theory that she may be assisting the mastermind blackmailer. She was really squirrelly with her phone in the park. What do we know about her internship? Maybe her new boss is the blackmailer, and taking advantage of Delilah's naivete? Which points to Vanessa's mom, just as she's the most powerful individual in the game so far.
The chapter end stinger should be more exciting/intriguing, but didn't land for me. Though the promise of the party turning into an Elysium fuelled orgy holds promise.
I feel like it was a missed opportunity to have a scene, or build some tension at least, with Spike this update. C'est la vie.
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Hungover00
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Oh, I forgot to spoiler some things that probably should have been spoilered. I did that, but they still show up in yours, since I did it after you quoted. Any chance you can add it, for those late to the party? Thank you kindly.
yuk69
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The "Big Bad" introduced at the end of the update should be a big deal, but I agree it kind of rings hollow. I can't quite put my finger on why though. Possibly because it's just kind of thrown in at the end with no sign of a "Big Bad" In previous updates, Feels like the blackmail plot is going a little off the rails with the Elysium party thing lol, but I'm curious to see the outcome and who said "Big Bad" is.
This is literally the best way I've seen this described... Cuck Route is alternate reality where characters do things that don't make sense for sake of Cuck porn lol. Especially in 0.4 Eve and Stella makes ZERO sense after everything we learn about Eve.
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It always seemed obvious to me that Fiona would top Ashe first, and then maybe later Ashe would convince Fiona to try bottoming.
Yeah i agree because thats what is going to happen in the siren path as ashe gets more confidence in herself in most situations she will be more of a top than a bottom hell the description in the game when picking the siren path basically said that and i feel like later maybe ashe will ask Fiona to be a bottom in order to spice things up which i feel like Fiona would do that for ashe.
In this context it means the one being penetrated, so no she's not.
doovel
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To be fair, she does have an ass that's just begging to be fucked.
Ashe mentioned that Fiona not into that.
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Have to agree with Alley_Cat. There seems to be a lot of whining over nothing here.
I really liked this update.
I liked how Ashe choose not to use the buttplug but kept it with her after the blackmailer sent a pic of her to her boss just in case the thing had a GPS on it. I could even choose not to give her more blackmail material for her to use later and insted grabbed a random pic from the internet.
Very good scene between Ashe and Lexi, not sure if it was exclusive to the siren route but it was great regardless. Specially liked how there was some chemistry between both of them, chatting and flirting with each other at that kiosk until they ended up doing some sex time on the beach.
I even got the radical free joke.
Vanessa also got up on my book. Despite the setback with her buying the wrong tickets, she was able to adjust and have a great time just chatting the night away with Ashe. Vanessa was also a lot more cool than their previous meeting showed. Even them bonding over dead moms was interesting. Also that kissing and making up before ending the night was hot.
Fiona and Ashe scene was also another one i was expecting. Quite nice that Ashe lost her bottom virginity with Fiona. Also no offense but anyone expecting otherwise was deluding thmselves, Ashe literally dreamed about this event in a previous update.
For now i decided to agree with Fiona and keep things between them on the friends with benefits stage, no reason to push things to move too fast.
And she finally asked the question and got the answer i was expecting: Fiona didn't tell Delilah about Ashe's secret.
Right now i have to agree that Delilah doesn't seem to be the only blackmailer, but it seems she was tasked with tailing Ashe by the main person behind it. Her wanting to go to the party even without a invite seems quite telling.
I am guessing the main criminal is the same person who wants to spike the drinks from Isabella/Lexi and Vanessa university party with that elisium drug to make everyone go mad in heat. That would be the "perfect" way to reveal Ashe being a duplo in front of everyone.
Between the blackmailer and all the women interested in Ashe this party promises a lot.
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I really liked this update.
I liked how Ashe choose not to use the buttplug but kept it with her after the blackmailer sent a pic of her to her boss just in case the thing had a GPS on it. I could even choose not to give her more blackmail material for her to use later and insted grabbed a random pic from the internet.
Very good scene between Ashe and Lexi, not sure if it was exclusive to the siren route but it was great regardless. Specially liked how there was some chemistry between both of them, chatting and flirting with each other at that kiosk until they ended up doing some sex time on the beach.
I even got the radical free joke.
Vanessa also got up on my book. Despite the setback with her buying the wrong tickets, she was able to adjust and have a great time just chatting the night away with Ashe. Vanessa was also a lot more cool than their previous meeting showed. Even them bonding over dead moms was interesting. Also that kissing and making up before ending the night was hot.
Fiona and Ashe scene was also another one i was expecting. Quite nice that Ashe lost her bottom virginity with Fiona. Also no offense but anyone expecting otherwise was deluding thmselves, Ashe literally dreamed about this event in a previous update.
For now i decided to agree with Fiona and keep things between them on the friends with benefits stage, no reason to push things to move too fast.
And she finally asked the question and got the answer i was expecting: Fiona didn't tell Delilah about Ashe's secret.
Right now i have to agree that Delilah doesn't seem to be the only blackmailer, but it seems she was tasked with tailing Ashe by the main person behind it. Her wanting to go to the party even without a invite seems quite telling.
I am guessing the main criminal is the same person who wants to spike the drinks from Isabella/Lexi and Vanessa university party with that elisium drug to make everyone go mad in heat. That would be the "perfect" way to reveal Ashe being a duplo in front of everyone.
Between the blackmailer and all the women interested in Ashe this party promises a lot.
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Yes. Go play it.
I don't remember this particular scene but it goes in line with Ashe's dreams about Fiona.
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doovel
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It‘s impressive that people just keep repeating the you should have expected Ashe to be the bottom when the criticism from virtually everyone who has talked about has been you don’t get a say in the matter, you can’t stop her. If you at one point decided to try something with Fiona you are on rails and can’t make any decisions. You don’t get to say no, let’s stop.Have to agree with Alley_Cat. There seems to be a lot of whining over nothing here.
I really liked this update.
I liked how Ashe choose not to use the buttplug but kept it with her after the blackmailer sent a pic of her to her boss just in case the thing had a GPS on it. I could even choose not to give her more blackmail material for her to use later and insted grabbed a random pic from the internet.
Very good scene between Ashe and Lexi, not sure if it was exclusive to the siren route but it was great regardless. Specially liked how there was some chemistry between both of them, chatting and flirting with each other at that kiosk until they ended up doing some sex time on the beach.
I even got the radical free joke.
Vanessa also got up on my book. Despite the setback with her buying the wrong tickets, she was able to adjust and have a great time just chatting the night away with Ashe. Vanessa was also a lot more cool than their previous meeting showed. Even them bonding over dead moms was interesting. Also that kissing and making up before ending the night was hot.
Fiona and Ashe scene was also another one i was expecting. Quite nice that Ashe lost her bottom virginity with Fiona. Also no offense but anyone expecting otherwise was deluding thmselves, Ashe literally dreamed about this event in a previous update.
For now i decided to agree with Fiona and keep things between them on the friends with benefits stage, no reason to push things to move too fast.
And she finally asked the question and got the answer i was expecting: Fiona didn't tell Delilah about Ashe's secret.
Right now i have to agree that Delilah doesn't seem to be the only blackmailer, but it seems she was tasked with tailing Ashe by the main person behind it. Her wanting to go to the party even without a invite seems quite telling.
I am guessing the main criminal is the same person who wants to spike the drinks from Isabella/Lexi and Vanessa university party with that elisium drug to make everyone go mad in heat. That would be the "perfect" way to reveal Ashe being a duplo in front of everyone.
Between the blackmailer and all the women interested in Ashe this party promises a lot.
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Yes. Go play it.
I don't remember this particular scene but it goes in line with Ashe's dreams about Fiona.
Don’t take away player agency without reason. If you only want this to be the way things can go. Provide an opportunity to end it before it gets to that stage. It is really such a minor thing to add, and it will avoid grievance for player’s who are okay with some hand and mouth stuff but don’t want to go further than that with said character.
And for crying out loud, if it doesn’t bother you that’s great. There is no reason to set up a straw man so you can pretend other people don‘t get to be annoyed.
The lack of agency is there when the package arrives too, you can move the scene where you want it to go without depriving your players of any control.
But yes, do go play it. Find out for yourself, and if you’re curious about the grievances I and others have with this episodes Siren route, try playing the previous episodes and comparing the two on player agency and meaningful choices.
I wouldn't be surprised if Fiona tries things with Ashe that she hasn't before or normally isn't into, Considering it's Ashe not just any random futa.